Bubbles Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/16757775/wayne-rooney-stay-Derby-rams-doomed-championship/ owner Steve Gibson’s claim for around £45m is still to be addressed. They feel Derby’s financial irregularities helped deny them a play-off place in 2019 after the Rams pipped them to the top six by just one point. jimtastic56, Chris_Martin, Red_Dawn and 28 others 4 1 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Bubbles said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/16757775/wayne-rooney-stay-Derby-rams-doomed-championship/ owner Steve Gibson’s claim for around £45m is still to be addressed. They feel Derby’s financial irregularities helped deny them a play-off place in 2019 after the Rams pipped them to the top six by just one point. Should recoup that easily when we sue QPR and Villa. Villa broke the rules in 2019 is he suing them ? Rammy03, Wsm-ram, LeedsCityRam and 25 others 13 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Ram Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 We haven't got £45 quid, good luck with that one. Reggie Greenwood, Andicis, EtoileSportiveDeDerby and 14 others 2 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 If we stopped him getting into the play offs, should we send him a lottery ticket? Stive Pesley, TigerTedd and r_wilcockson 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Bubbles said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/16757775/wayne-rooney-stay-Derby-rams-doomed-championship/ owner Steve Gibson’s claim for around £45m is still to be addressed. They feel Derby’s financial irregularities helped deny them a play-off place in 2019 after the Rams pipped them to the top six by just one point. Did they vote on the creditors meeting? That’s three Brit asombalongas worth . Which makes zero. David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 Personally feel we should be lodging our own claim of a figure that large against a certain individual who decided against starting a striker in the play off final…? SKRam, MackworthRamIsGod, Remy the hare and 7 others 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, Bubbles said: Personally feel we should be lodging our own claim of a figure that large against a certain individual who decided against starting a striker in the play off final…? or lodge a claim against a CF who couldn't keep himself fit enough to start games 48 hours and jimtastic56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black ('n' White) Sheep Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 "They feel Derby’s financial irregularities helped deny them a play-off place in 2019 after the Rams pipped them to the top six by just one point". "Wycombe say they were relegated because a previous points penalty was not imposed and want around £6m". 1. This is coming from a Middlesbrough team that spent a combined £26.5m on Britt Assombalonga, Darren Randolph and Ashley Fletcher the season before?... Maybe they should invest their own money better? 2. Wycombe shouldn't have even been in the Championship in the first place. I feel Messrs Gibson and Couhig should go and duck 'emselves ? NottsRam77, Andicis, David Graham Brown and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 If he can prove it was our financial irregularities that prevented them getting to the playoffs; and if he can prove they would have won the semis; and if he can prove that they would have won the final, then he has a great case - otherwise it's notithing more than supposition and conjecture - be lucky to last 5 minutes in front of a competent judge.... CBRammette, Rammy03, Kathcairns and 15 others 3 2 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Middlesbrough's claim might be legitimate to the exact extent of - gate receipts and TV money for play off semi. They finished 7th. They were not as good a football team as the 6 above them. That's it. TomG, Andicis, David Graham Brown and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, Bubbles said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/16757775/wayne-rooney-stay-Derby-rams-doomed-championship/ owner Steve Gibson’s claim for around £45m is still to be addressed. They feel Derby’s financial irregularities helped deny them a play-off place in 2019 after the Rams pipped them to the top six by just one point. "Middlesbrough and Wycombe have lodged compensation claims and peace talks are planned. Derby think they can win the cases, but it is uncertain. Boro owner Steve Gibson’s claim for around £45m is still to be addressed. They feel Derby’s financial irregularities helped deny them a play-off place in 2019 after the Rams pipped them to the top six by just one point. Wycombe say they were relegated because a previous points penalty was not imposed and want around £6m. Any takeover deal also needs an agreement with former owner Mel Morris to sell the stadium. He is looking for around £20m but that is also subject to negotiation. Derby’s doom is a massive scar on the EFL’s flagship division. For the third season running, a club is likely to go down because of penalties. Wigan and Sheffield Wednesday both suffered the same fate when they had won enough points on the pitch. Worse still, it makes a mockery of the final 29 games of Derby’s season." That underlined bit in particular suggests (to me, at least) that these claims are aimed directly at Derby County Football Club, not The EFL? Is that right? Are they allowed? Anyway, bring it on. We'll be quids in, once QPR & Villa are brought into the equation. KERCHING! ? Reggie Greenwood, Kathcairns and David Graham Brown 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomG Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Messer's Gibson and Couhig aka the Bamford brothers can do one! Ramarena and Mucker1884 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, I am Ram said: We haven't got £45 quid, good luck with that one. Exactly. If their claim is against the club rather than the EFL then they have zero chance of recovering any of the money if they were to win. As for Wycombe. As others have said, their claim is a joke as our irregularities occurred before they were even in the Championship. If they believe the penalties should have been applied last season then their claim should be against the EFL. Can’t help but think this is all just newspaper nonsense. Carnero, I am Ram, RadioactiveWaste and 5 others 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Exactly. If their claim is against the club rather than the EFL then they have zero chance of recovering any of the money if they were to win. As for Wycombe. As others have said, their claim is a joke as our irregularities occurred before they were even in the Championship. If they believe the penalties should have been applied last season then their claim should be against the EFL. Can’t help but think this is all just newspaper nonsense. It's probably true that both have lodged legal papers, but it's probably also true both don't really expect things to go very far. r_wilcockson, jono, Carnero and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) Should be suing their mates on the EFL. If they were to succeed then the floodgates for these types of cases would open and we’d have an open and shut case against QPR and Villa due to precedent! The EFL have opened a right can of worms by emboldening that Gibson individual! Edited November 17, 2021 by Ramarena RoyMac5, Philmycock, r_wilcockson and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 The EFL have allowed all this to happen . Its crazy Kathcairns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Wycombe's claim is fallacious anyway. By their logic, Sheffield Wednesday should have had THEIR original points deduction of -9 applied at the end of the season in which it was determined - 2019/20 - that would have relegated SWFC instead of Charlton. Instead, the Tribunal decided that the purpose of the EFL's regulations was not to punish teams by relegating them without the hope of saving themselves. So they determined that it should be applied to the 20/21 season instead (it was then reduced to -6 points on appeal), which meant that Wycombe finished in 22nd place instead of 23rd. Thus, Derby's PD being applied last season would not have saved Wycombe anyway. I hope Quantuma are all over this, because Couhig's claim is the biggest load of crud out there, except perhaps for Gibson's claim. Still, at least it demonstrates to a few people that claims that other club owners want to put DCFC out of business are not fanciful or a symptom of "victim culture". They're not trying to punish Morris now, they're trying to punish US. Tamworthram, jono, Zag zig and 13 others 7 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC Kicks Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 David Graham Brown, Ellafella, Chris_Martin and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 48 minutes ago, Gaspode said: If he can prove it was our financial irregularities that prevented them getting to the playoffs; and if he can prove they would have won the semis; and if he can prove that they would have won the final, then he has a great case - otherwise it's notithing more than supposition and conjecture - be lucky to last 5 minutes in front of a competent judge.... And even if he could do all these things he wouldn’t get any money anyway as we are broke. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 They’ve had parachute payments since they’ve come down? Can’t he just admit they failed to go back up… can’t believe he’s trying to kill this club r_wilcockson, RadioactiveWaste and Kathcairns 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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