Curtains Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Topram said: They’ve had parachute payments since they’ve come down? Can’t he just admit they failed to go back up… can’t believe he’s trying to kill this club We don’t know what’s in his mind . It will be a very serious matter though for Derby if he keeps this up. Edited November 17, 2021 by Curtains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, PistoldPete said: And even if he could do all these things he wouldn’t get any money anyway as we are broke. And actually he will need to prove there were financial irregularities . As it was just a compromise deal nothing was proven anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Ram Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Im not worried about this, we are a founder member in the flagship division. The EFL will have our backs, keep an open dialogue with the fans, and prove they are a competent steward of the league. Oh wait................... OUTSIDER, Ramarena, norwichram and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: And actually he will need to prove there were financial irregularities . As it was just a compromise deal nothing was proven anyway. That's a good point - as the EFL didn't actually charge us with financial irregluarities (just agreed a compromise punishment), it may work in our favour..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 So can we sue Reading for the lost 6 points last season due to their massive overspending then ? can we sue Birmingham for the points they gained by being over spent then? In that season we know QPR completely destroyed the regulations when we lost in the play off final so obviously we can destroy them as well there is no point mentioning Aston Villa as they haven’t been charged with anything Middlesbrough - What a joke - if they were good enough they would have got more points to lose against leeds Maybe we should not have bothered to get a draw in that game at Brighton which allowed Middlesbrough to get automatic promotion a few seasons ago. - on current behaviours you would seriously rest a lot of players to affect other clubs fortunes then again maybe that’s exactly what has been happening? Kathcairns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24Charlie Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I for one hope Middlesbrough win. The floodgates will then be open for every team that has ever fallen foul of an FFP breaking team. We are owed at least two full seasons of PL earnings plus 4 seasons of parachute payments after we lost to QPR and Villa. And that is if we got relegated straight away. So Boro win £45m and we win a least £200m and probably far more. I am stunned that Gibson thinks this claim has any legs. Talk about opening a can of worms. It’ll just make the EFL look even more farcical, if that’s possible. GboroRam, Derby4Me, Rammy03 and 10 others 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sparkle said: So can we sue Reading for the lost 6 points last season due to their massive overspending then ? can we sue Birmingham for the points they gained by being over spent then? In that season we know QPR completely destroyed the regulations when we lost in the play off final so obviously we can destroy them as well there is no point mentioning Aston Villa as they haven’t been charged with anything Middlesbrough - What a joke - if they were good enough they would have got more points to lose against leeds Maybe we should not have bothered to get a draw in that game at Brighton which allowed Middlesbrough to get automatic promotion a few seasons ago. - on current behaviours you would seriously rest a lot of players to affect other clubs fortunes then again maybe that’s exactly what has been happening? Derby could sue other clubs but there’s no one in charge of Derby to do this. Maybe administrators wouldn’t want a long drawn out process doing this. In theory though surely clubs can sue each other even though it should surely be the EFL facing any action. Middlesbrough’s claim seems ridiculous but imagine if they win? Edited November 17, 2021 by TheresOnlyWanChope jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, 24Charlie said: I for one hope Middlesbrough win. The floodgates will then be open for every team that has ever fallen foul of an FFP breaking team. We are owed at least two full seasons of PL earnings plus 4 seasons of parachute payments after we lost to QPR and Villa. And that is if we got relegated straight away. So Boro win £45m and we win a least £200m and probably far more. I am stunned that Gibson thinks this claim has any legs. Talk about opening a can of worms. It’ll just make the EFL look even more farcical, if that’s possible. It doesn’t matter if it’s got legs but it will take time up stopping the takeover! jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 So if we can sue QPR for a small county GDP then that must make us a hugely attractive purchase ? Win win Ramarena 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Even if they are not successful they will take time to resolve and might delay a prospective new owner wanting to invest in Derby because of possible consequences. I don’t think Mel will be sitting at home happy at all about all this. Edited November 17, 2021 by angieram jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, TheresOnlyWanChope said: Derby could sue other clubs but there’s no one in charge of Derby to do this. Maybe administrators wouldn’t want a long drawn out process doing this. In theory though surely clubs can sue each other even though it should surely be the EFL facing any action. Middlesbrough’s claim seems ridiculous but imagine if they win? We could use the EFL expert witness in court ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 So us as a team with (slightly) more points didnt get promoted but he is saying if they had finished 6th they would have? During that season they drew twice with Leeds (0-0 and 1-1) and lost 3-0 twice to Villa so he is saying they would have beaten Villa at Wembley? How would that ever stick? If it wasnt so worrying it would be hysterically funny jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Why is he suing Derby? It's the EFL he should be suing. What were we meant to do about it, punish ourselves? Edited November 17, 2021 by angieram Ramifications 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarterForTen Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 In order to make a claim papers have to be served on an individual or entity - you can’t just sue ‘Derby County’. The legal entity that is Derby County is one of the limited companies that is currently in Administration. If the claim was valid the administrator would not be selling as a going concern, he’d be looking to sell the assets (including the EFL golden share) to a NewCo in order to disenfranchise the claim. This does not appear to be the pathway we are on so this is just water muddying. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, StarterForTen said: In order to make a claim papers have to be served on an individual or entity - you can’t just sue ‘Derby County’. The legal entity that is Derby County is one of the limited companies that is currently in Administration. If the claim was valid the administrator would not be selling as a going concern, he’d be looking to sell the assets (including the EFL golden share) to a NewCo in order to disenfranchise the claim. This does not appear to be the pathway we are on so this is just water muddying. We wait to hear from the administrators soon I hope jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC Kicks Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 List of recent past top 6 teams who cheated: Derby Leicester Leeds Villa Cardiff Wolves Sheff Wed Reading Brighton Fulham in 2017/18 all four teams who finished above Middleborough had recently cheated in some way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, DCFC Kicks said: List of recent past top 6 teams who cheated: Derby Leicester Leeds Villa Cardiff Wolves Sheff Wed Reading Brighton Fulham in 2017/18 all four teams who finished above Middleborough had recently cheated in some way you also forgot QPR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, DCFC Kicks said: List of recent past top 6 teams who cheated: Derby Leicester Leeds Villa Cardiff Wolves Sheff Wed Reading Brighton Fulham in 2017/18 all four teams who finished above Middleborough had recently cheated in some way It’s interesting but not relevant to the Derby takeover which might be delayed if a prospective new owner doesn’t wish to take all this uncertainty on . DCFC Kicks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC Kicks Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: you also forgot QPR Who? never heard of them Chris_Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Remember when football was decided on the pitch? They were fun times. Kathcairns, RadioactiveWaste, Ewe Ram and 2 others 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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