Middlesbrough lodge £45m compensation claim

[SBW]

4 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

He's just not come to terms with the fact he pissed his parachute payments up the wall and all of their planning had been based on getting promotion before they ran out.

It's seriously no one else fault he chose Tony pulis to achieve that aim.

My mate told me that Forest bid for Bamford, and he asked for over £3m from them than he ask for from Leeds, because they made him pay Assombalonga's release fee over doing a deal with them.  How true that is, I don't know.

But it show both the arrogance and lunacy of the man.  Very strange bloke.  But then again, he supports Boro', probably one of the ugliest places i've ever been.  

[G-Ram]

The EFL should step in and threaten them with a points deduction. Im not sure what for but its complete nonsense of a claim from gibson

The EFL have punished us. We have accepted the points deduction. EFL & Derby can now draw a line under it and move on.

However that clown is potentially putting off other buyers. It should be against the spirt of the game (whatever that is). Its the EFL's job to punish us not gibsons or boro's.

There is no way they can prove they would have gone up if they had got in the playoffs & therefore he can't prove a loss. He should be told by the league to drop it 

[BramcoteRam84]

It’s a disgrace that this pile on is being allowed by the EFL. It’s bullying of the highest order. Not enough we’ve been in embargo for best part of two years rendering us a squad which would do well to survive anyway, not enough we’ve been put in administration and deducted 12 points, then given an additional 9 when clubs with bigger P&S indiscretions have been given lesser penalties, no they bring a legal action that can only be with the intention to ensure Derby County cease to exist!!!  My animosity towards Boro and that Bamford Gibson grows everyday. Hope he falls out with Marinakis as maybe his stadium will get blown up then!! 

[kevinhectoring]

11 hours ago, I am Ram said:

We haven't got £45 quid, good luck with that one.

Our buyer has though - that’s where it comes from. Fact it, it’s HMRC that loses out 

[Ambitious]

Without getting too graphic, I wish Steve Gibson nothing but the worst in life. The absolute worst. 

How on earth he can claim they lost out on £45m(?) - the play-off semi is worth less than £1m in revenue. If it’s because he believes they would’ve undoubtedly won the play-offs beyond any reasonable doubt, he can explain why they lost 7 of their last 12 games - including big losses to Swansea, Forest and ironically Villa. Daft twit. 

[angieram]

36 minutes ago, BramcoteRam84 said:

It’s a disgrace that this pile on is being allowed by the EFL. It’s bullying of the highest order. 

Rams Trust asked the EFL why they were allowing this at their previous meeting and this was their response: 

It is an unfortunate reality that commercial disputes can and do arise, and football is no different. The EFL (in common with the FA and the Premier League) provides that any disputes between Member Clubs must be resolved by arbitration and the terms of the arbitration are as set out in our regulations. This does not mean the EFL is determining the outcome – all we provide is a framework. Arbitrations between Clubs are resolved by independent panels formed from specialist solicitors/barristers with experience in the relevant sector from a list maintained by Sports Resolutions. Each party can present their cases as they see fit and judgments will be issued. Any proceedings will remain private and confidential. It will be for the Administrators to conduct any defence of any claims brought against the Club. The EFL is not able to comment on any particular matter as we are not party to any such proceedings.

Sounds like a cop out to me!

[EtoileSportiveDeDerby]

7 hours ago, 86 Hair Islands said:

Dear Mr Gibsonface,

Quantuma Ltd, in their role as officially appointed administrators working on behalf of Derby County Ltd.'s creditors, has received and assessed your claim for £45,000,000.00 to cover the financial damage incurred as a result of your failure to sign Martin 'Waggy' Waghorn. Given Waggy's prolific goal output and after careful consideration of the merit of your claim that his absence effectively deprived Middlesboro FC of a place in the Premiership, we are pleased to confirm that we accept and confirm your claim's validity.

As you are doubtless aware, Derby County Ltd is currently in administration and as such, our claim assessors have structured a compensation package that we feel both accounts for and fully addresses the the financial hardship Middlesboro FC has experienced as a result of Derby County's lack of fiduciary care. It is our stance that this offer is both fair and fitting and wholly in keeping with the validity of your claim.

For full details of our offer, please refer to Appendix A, which fully outlines the aforementioned compensation package. We are pleased to make this offer which whilst not fully meeting the value of your claim, does partially satisfy your personal losses, as well as those of your club and should also bring long overdue closure to both Middlesboro FC and it's vibrant, fair-minded and loyal fanbase.

Yours sincerely.

Andy Hoskins (on behalf of Quantuma Ltd)

Appendix A: Compensation Awarded (see below)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please note, in the unlikely event that you feel our offer does not adequately reflect the value of your claim, may we kindly suggest that you remove your blouse and do one you perma-permed, window-licking meat trumpet.

very well crafted letter and a very generous offer but...Is he allergic to nuts? Just asking

[kevinhectoring]

1 hour ago, G-Ram said:

The EFL should step in and threaten them with a points deduction. Im not sure what for but its complete nonsense of a claim from gibson

The EFL have punished us. We have accepted the points deduction. EFL & Derby can now draw a line under it and move on.

However that clown is potentially putting off other buyers. It should be against the spirt of the game (whatever that is). Its the EFL's job to punish us not gibsons or boro's.

There is no way they can prove they would have gone up if they had got in the playoffs & therefore he can't prove a loss. He should be told by the league to drop it 

Nasty and cynical, what Boro and Wycombe are doing. Sad thing is we will probably pay a few hundred grand to get them out of the way of a sale 

[Comrade 86]

Just now, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said:

very well crafted letter and a very generous offer but...Is he allergic to nuts? Just asking

Mate, the daft old ducker's employed Mowbray, Pulis and even Colin ?

[Crewton]

31 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said:

Our buyer has though - that’s where it comes from. Fact it, it’s HMRC that loses out 

I'd say he's got zero chance of having his claim listed as a football debt, because it simply isn't one. 

[Van der MoodHoover]

8 minutes ago, angieram said:

Rams Trust asked the EFL why they were allowing this at their previous meeting and this was their response: 

It is an unfortunate reality that commercial disputes can and do arise, and football is no different. The EFL (in common with the FA and the Premier League) provides that any disputes between Member Clubs must be resolved by arbitration and the terms of the arbitration are as set out in our regulations. This does not mean the EFL is determining the outcome – all we provide is a framework. Arbitrations between Clubs are resolved by independent panels formed from specialist solicitors/barristers with experience in the relevant sector from a list maintained by Sports Resolutions. Each party can present their cases as they see fit and judgments will be issued. Any proceedings will remain private and confidential. It will be for the Administrators to conduct any defence of any claims brought against the Club. The EFL is not able to comment on any particular matter as we are not party to any such proceedings.

Sounds like a cop out to me!

Apart from getting a bit lost in the folds of waffle, whereabouts in all of that does it say that it is OK for a club to go to law for punitive damages? 

Why isn't the Gibbamford complaining to the EFL so that they can arrange one of their really useful panels? 

[EtoileSportiveDeDerby]

7 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said:

Mate, the daft old ducker's employed Mowbray, Pulis and even Colin ?

He is nuts, i agree

[kevinhectoring]

2 minutes ago, Crewton said:

I'd say he's got zero chance of having his claim listed as a football debt, because it simply isn't one. 

Agree, but don’t think it matters what sort of debt it is.  If Gibson gets anything (he will) I think it’s  HMRC who suffers   Unless MM agrees to pay it 

[angieram]

Just now, Van der MoodHoover said:

Apart from getting a bit lost in the folds of waffle, whereabouts in all of that does it say that it is OK for a club to go to law for punitive damages? 

Why isn't the Gibbamford complaining to the EFL so that they can arrange one of their really useful panels? 

Because it sounds to me like the EFL don't want anything to do with it.

I'm sure the waffle is deliberate. They answered most of our questions like that.

[I know nuffin]

2 hours ago, G-Ram said:

The EFL should step in and threaten them with a points deduction. Im not sure what for but its complete nonsense of a claim from gibson

The EFL have punished us. We have accepted the points deduction. EFL & Derby can now draw a line under it and move on.

However that clown is potentially putting off other buyers. It should be against the spirt of the game (whatever that is). Its the EFL's job to punish us not gibsons or boro's.

There is no way they can prove they would have gone up if they had got in the playoffs & therefore he can't prove a loss. He should be told by the league to drop it 

What about bringing the game into disrepute that does it for me

[Ramtastic ones]

12 hours ago, Reggie Greenwood said:

Should recoup that easily when we sue QPR and Villa. Villa broke the rules in 2019 is he suing them ? 

Add Wolves, West Brom and Leeds to that list. Over spend and get promoted. Zero consequences

[YoxallRam]

Steve Gibson. What a bamford. Any petty things we can do to annoy him? Leave some bad reviews for the golf course he owns? Rockliffe Hall.

[Crewton]

17 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said:

Agree, but don’t think it matters what sort of debt it is.  If Gibson gets anything (he will) I think it’s  HMRC who suffers   Unless MM agrees to pay it 

I'm not convinced he will get anything. The Administrators can't pay him other than as a particular class of creditor, and they can't pay him more in the £ than others of the same class. Before any of that, his claim needs to be proven, because there is no mechanism for it to be automatically accepted or reasonably assessed : it's not money "owed". He may be hoping the Administrators just add it to one class of debt or other, but if that happens he'll get nothing, because the club will be liquidated. It's (IMO) a purely vexatious and mischievous claim that has no discernable merit, but he's hoping either for a bit of cash or to send DCFC into oblivion. He really is a piece of work. 

[kevinhectoring]

7 minutes ago, Crewton said:

The Administrators can't pay him other than as a particular class of creditor, and they can't pay him more in the £ than others of the same class. Before any of that, his claim needs to be proven,

Certainly the admins can by agreement quantify a contingent claim against the club. Pretty sure also that they can simply pay Gibson to go away. They have full powers to run the business. They are not liquidators 

Edited November 17, 2021 by kevinhectoring

[uttoxram75]

I'm going to sue Bobby Madley thus,

1. On the 1st March 2014, in the 43rd minute of the Championship match between Burnley and Derby County, Mr. Bobby "Atwell my arse, watch this for a game of soldiers" Madley, did wilfully and maliciously refuse to award a blatant penalty to the aforementioned Derby County FC.

2. Furthermore, Mr Madley then wilfully and maliciously ruled out a perfectly good goal from the same passage of play that was beautifully stroked home by Jeff "I'll take you all on outside Revolution Bar" Hendrick.

3. Mr. Madley then proceeded to award a yellow card to Christopher "Wardrobe" Martin for diving, adding to the previously awarded yellow for being a wardrobe on a football pitch without prior consent. 

4. Mr. Madley acted with pre-meditation to deprive Derby County FC of taking the momentum from Burnley FC in this promotion battle. It is obvious to all that Derby would have gone on to beat Burnley due to the well established law of "get in to them once you are on the up and they are on the back foot grovelling", which is firmly established as football lore.

 

I demand damages of £250, due to Mr. Madley's actions stopping us finishing in the automatic promotion place, which is the approximate cost of me travelling down to that there London for a weekend of liver damaging drinking culminating in losing to an ageing QPR side that had broken the FFP rules to a level that Melvin Morris could only dream of.

Oh, and £5b which we would now be worth if we'd of gone up with that team.