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  2. A lovely floated cross from the Rev - nodded in at the back post by i-ram
  3. Not sure whether Paterson was fully utilised. In my head he’s had a row and he’s history.
  4. Look at the figure 1 graph. Muslims overwhelmingly voted Labour in 2017. Highly doubt it was any different a few days ago. http://www.brin.ac.uk/religious-affiliation-and-party-choice-at-the-2017-general-election/
  5. I said maybe 100 pages ago now after Corbyn's interview with Andrew Neil on prime time TV that perhaps he didn't outright apologise because 250k votes lost equals 4m votes gained (total UK Jewish population vs Muslim population). Whether either party is anti-semitic or islamophobic or to what degree is neither here nor there, if you can appear as one and not the other there's a lot of votes at stake. Oooh, conspiracy theory time! The two previous maps I posted showed almost 100% correlation of high density muslim areas and Labour seats. I'd suggest that both main parties have work to do vs racism, I don't know how you start it though. Maybe a mass apology from both parties and a commitment to free speech in the House of Commons, with inevitable future minor slip ups dealt with by apology rather than outrage/sacking cutlure.
  6. My most forgettable loans would be Jason Talbot, Andreas Pereplotkins and Nick Chadwick.
  7. Paul71


    They really do make it up as they go along. Clear foul on de gea today.
  8. Genuine question, are Muslims more likely to vote Labour than any other party?
  9. Interesting - especially this quote. You can see why they didn't want to vote Tory It still feels deeply suspect that anti-semitism in the Labour party was frequently front page news, and dragged up over and over - in comparison to Islamaphobia in the Tory party which seemed to get mentioned in dispatches but seemed to gain no traction with the media. And it wasn't Corbyn who made directly made fun of jewish tradititional dress - nor was it Corbyn who committed to an independent inquiry into anti-semitism on live TV and then completely backtracked within 24 hours Did you see the horrendous replies to Baroness Warsi's tweet making a new call for the inquiry to start? Just have a browse - some of them are in line with the type of thing you are keen to have an open discussion about - but then dozens of them are just pure outright disgusting islamaphobia and racism. How do you have an open discussion in this climate?
  10. This came from BrexitBalls. The mistake of mislabelling column 2 (2019) aside, it implies to me that Labour voters didn't flock to the Conservatives, but mostly didn't vote (about half switched to lib Dem).
  11. We’ll only waste the money.
  12. Swap deal for Eranio? I'm sure he could still do a job for us on the wing, even at 52.
  13. A more important stat is shown in the graph below. Brexit was obviously an issue but not the only one;
  14. True. As the polls suggest, weak leadership not brexit was the deciding factor.
  15. Saw that earlier.... Almost 7m more people in the country since 2005. Also the Muslim population has grown significantly; https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslim-voters-uk-general-election-kensington-putney-a9234431.html https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/12/muslims-turned-to-labour-rejected-tory-party Top Map; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_London Bottom Map; Labour Seats 2019
  16. Here's an interesting fact that makes FPTP even more puzzling For all the (seemingly true) anecdotal evidence that Corbyn was just so unpopular that people couldn't bring themselves to vote for him - he still got more votes last Thursday than Tony Blair got when he won the 2005 election. Bottom line is that no Labour leader could have won this election. There was no Brexit position they could have taken that would have captured enough seats
  17. I was happy to correct the word, I'm normally pretty careful with what I say and agree they were more an angry mob than fascists. However, I think the point that I and others are making is that Antfia, an angry mob spewing profanities and wearing 'Kill Tory' jackets get incorrectly labelled facists and their defence is lept to. People get called far right or fascist on here for far less and smiley face emoji's ensue.
  18. I think style of football has an impact on ‘leadership’ though. It’s easier to be a vocal gobshite and organise a team whose style of play IS to be organised. It’s slightly different when you’re the team trying to play the football. You can’t have Curtis Davies shouting at the wingers for being too narrow when it’s clear this far into the season that that’s what’s being coached. Keogh used to be quite good at organising us when in possession so that we could play through the thirds (asking somebody to drop and telling somebody to run) but that’s about as much as you can do. Perhaps Martin could do more. Rather than moaning start dishing out bollockings. Demand it to feet don’t want it to feet. Don’t throw you arms in the air when nobody presses with you, dish it out.
  19. Looks like we are flatlining now 😣
  20. Have you ever reported any of these posts you're complaining about?
  21. Can't see Reading being a problem. I've been doing it for about 30 years.
  22. A Jose Mourinho anecdote doesn’t prove you’re right though…
  23. I mean... no. He plays bank football. Swapping Cocu for him is just a sideways step.
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