Tombo Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 I just don't know what the EFL are hoping to achieve. Is FFP still about protecting clubs from going bust or is it just a set of rules with no purpose? Dragging this out is stopping us getting the takeover that we desperately need. This could make us go bust, so where does this even relate to "sustainability" anymore? Norman, Chester40, BPV and 8 others 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 30 minutes ago, JfR said: You know, the more I think about it, the more bizarre it seems that the EFL are making and very openly broadcasting the fact they're making a separate fixture list based on a points deduction that hasn't happened. They've just invented a potential punishment that's different to the punishment that has actually been handed out and are going to publish a set of fixtures based on this imagined punishment, even though there's no suggestion that it's likely that it will actually be given. What a weird organisation. Vindictive organisation........there are people there, who appear relentless to prove us guilty of something, who just wont stop until they’ve done so, because some members have it in for us. Thats how it looks, that’s how it feels. Rammy03, angieram and David Graham Brown 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Zag zig said: Vindictive organisation........there are people there, who appear relentless to prove us guilty of something, who just wont stop until they’ve done so, because some members have it in for us. Thats how it looks, that’s how it feels. The EFL invested so much into "getting" DCFC that they now can't afford to be seen to "fail". BPV, CBRammette, Zag zig and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambam Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 What is the point of a Disciplinary Commission if the EFL will simply not accept their decisions? EFL is coming across as a totalitarian state. May Contain Nuts, BPV, Norman and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 32 minutes ago, CBRammette said: Be surprised if Rooney doesnt walk. If he doesnt based on his previous comments suggests he knows something re takeover we dont Every cloud... RadioactiveWaste, 48 hours, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Still don’t get how: - EFL rules don’t state the method of amortisation to be used - we submit accounts using a legitimate accounting method which the EFL accept - we submit 2 more years accounts using the same method which the EFL accept - Keiran ‘finance expert in his own head’ Maguire tells the EFL that we’re doing something different to all the other teams -EFL charge us over multiple issues and lose - EFL appeal a small part of the charges and win but now threaten to relegate us if they decide to appeal again. Surely their appeal was only against the fact that we’d not been clear enough in telling the EFL accountants that we’d used a different accounting technique. The fact that the latest appeal has decided we should have been fined for the issue rather than given a good telling off doesn’t legitimately leave scope for a points deduction for last season - so relegation shouldn’t even be a consideration at this stage. This is a vindictive statement meant to cause as much trouble as possible - at a time when all clubs are in dire straits due to COVID. Appeals from either side simply drag out this farcical process and cause more damage - the EFL need to remember they have a duty to protect all clubs and not continue to attack us just because their chief exec is best mates with a nasty little man in a Middlesbrough - particularly when they have history of letting clubs with far larger FFP breaches off the hook…… Carnero, Sparkle, Curtains and 21 others 8 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 8 hours ago, Norman said: So, all we have to do is wait for Mr. Pearce to confirm to us fans at 9am, that we will be inside the allowed losses for that period. Surely, as a club, we already know the calculations. Hopefully the morning won't bring complete silence. I would also state, if we do fall outside the permitted losses, we can argue we would have sold players to alleviate the losses. We are no longer in a position to change what happened years a go. Can't see this going anywhere to be honest. Appeal after appeal coming up. This has been my argument all along, we wouldnt have done some of our business if the EFL hadnt signed off the Amortisation policy. We wouldnt have signed Bielik, Jozwiak and I imagine Rooney wouldnt have been here. It's like being granted planning permission for an extension and then being hit with a punishment because the planners realise your house is now bigger than theirs and everyone elses. We need to wake up and quick, the EFL are literally doing anything and everything to destroy our football club. This is a battle of egos between Parry and Morris and our club and the fans are collateral damage. BPV, Rammy03, 48 hours and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brammie Steve Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 35 minutes ago, CBRammette said: Be surprised if Rooney doesnt walk. If he doesnt based on his previous comments suggests he knows something re takeover we dont No way will he walk. What does he pay a chauffeur for? CBRammette, GB SPORTS and 48 hours 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 8 hours ago, San Fran Van Rams said: This for me is the question - if we do fail the FRS rules based on the resubmission, could we argue that spending decisions taken during that time period were based on a methodology that hadn't been questioned and we had assumed to be correct, and that we weren't acting in a subversive manner in when doing so? I'm not sure if there is any precedent in other walks of life on this but I guess its like being given a speeding fine when your speedo is 10mph out Actually it's like the police telling you it's ok that your speedo is 10mph out and then the police fining you for it a year later. 48 hours, BPV, Rammy03 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gaspode said: This is a vindictive statement meant to cause as much trouble as possible - at a time when all clubs are in dire straits due to COVID. Appeals from either side simply drag out this farcical process and cause more damage - the EFL need to remember they have a duty to protect all clubs and not continue to attack us just because their chief exec is best mates with a nasty little man in a Middlesbrough - particularly when they have history of letting clubs with far larger FFP breaches off the hook…… Yes. I think the fine and resubmitting accounts was a fair compromise. David Graham Brown and r_wilcockson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, JfR said: This clarifies the situation a bit: Possibility of relegation last season is to do with the EFL appealing the original charge to have it changed Resubmission of accounts would require new charges if there are any breaches, so wouldn't result in relegation last season So it's not the case that any breaches in the resubmitted accounts will result in an immediate relegation. And that’s the crazy part - they appealed the part of the original charge that said we weren’t clear enough in explaining to the EFL that we were using a different accounting method - thereby admitting that their own processes were too lax to spot the difference in accounting methods, yet they think that we should have a point deduction because they were too incompetent to sign off the accounts correctly….. what an absolute bunch of winkers they are….. 48 hours, SparxTheRam and r_wilcockson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslad1992 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Let’s give the European super league a ring, see if they want us. fed up playing under these absolute clowns. when will it ever end? admira, Mostyn6 and Topram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 8 hours ago, DCFC90 said: The worrying thing for me is, if we're appealing and it's taking such a long time, no-one is going to want to sign for us because they don't know which league we'll be in next season. Why has it taken over 2 years to get to this position? If we were in league one then it’s a totally different finance situation where we wouldn’t be allowed to sign next to no one basically due to wage caps in league one etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Every cloud... Apparently there is talk he will play in goal next season after Marshall is sold off to the pub league.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) What a mess to get in. The club has only its self to blame. I really am fed up with all this. Edited June 24, 2021 by Gritstone Ram ramison and Tamworthram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 If the EFL do appeal this verdict, thus placing us in yet another transfer embargo while it is sorted, then the club should be shouting out the unfair treatment from every rooftop. The restrictions placed on our ability to trade over several seasons now are as much of a punishment as any points deduction. Surely no-one still believes that the EFL haven't got it in for us? Fans of other clubs laughing at us might do well to remember it might be their turn next. Once the EFL have succeeded in destroying us they will turn to someone else. r_wilcockson, cosmic, Ramarena and 10 others 10 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Jayram said: Blame Mel Morris, not the EFL. If he hadn’t tried to game the system we wouldn’t be in this position. You are Steve Gibson and i claim my £5. David Graham Brown and Reggie Greenwood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gritstone Ram said: What a mess to get in. The club has only its self to blame. But does it though? The accounts were signed off. There was no problem. If there was, I am sure there are many of things the club wouldn't have done. You cannot say it's fine and then a year later say actually no it's not. As much as I question the way the club has been run, this is EFL incompetence. angieram, Gritstone Ram, Reggie Greenwood and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 What an utter mess, how can either Wycombe or us plan for next season? We should both sue the EFL for incompetence. Norman, David Graham Brown, Brammie Steve and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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