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  1. Good article in todays Guardian; https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/21/democrats-republicans-political-beliefs-national-survey-poll Touches on echo chambers, the value of watching Fox News and finding political center ground.
  2. As I mentioned previously I was in two minds whether to post this video or not because of who was presenting it - yes it fits his agenda but I ultimately felt that he did a pretty good job of keeping any personal commentary to a minimum and put forwards a varied selection of sources (both right and left wing) that gave a fairly rounded briefing of the story. I felt that it put forwards far more information that I could ever do in a few short paragraphs that people would be bothered to read and therefore the pros outweighed the cons. Feel free to have preconceived ideas about the content however and just throw generic tropes and insults around. Its not even up for debate at the moment that The Squad are an 'ascendant, radical left wing movement', even their own party, The Democrats acknowledge and are concerned about the direction they are moving in. Furthermore if you had watched the video you would find a lot of 'evidence or substance to back his claim'. If anyone makes it to the end of the video (well almost the end, not sure what the last couple of minutes were lol) and want to discuss it in a civilized manner then I'm happy to chat on the forum - without agitating, point scoring or shilling. My underlying point has always been the same over my time posting on here; That the left has gone too far and social media has become to divisive. Combined with increasing censorship our ability to discuss matters calmly and rationally (see above) is decreasing and its creating the world in which Trump not only got elected but will be re-elected.
  3. I was in two minds whether to post this, especially after the grief I got for daring to post a Daily Wire article 😋 Sargon of Akkad aka Carl Benjamin video re. Trump, The Squad and those tweets. Presented on the whole without commentary and does a decent job of keeping it on point with plenty of videos, links and paper articles. Its 30 mins long and well worth a watch imo, I'm happy to discuss the contents but if you're not gonna watch it or criticise me for not posting a Guardian link then I'll just ignore you.
  4. Okay, sorry for using one Daily Wire article to give a general idea of the controversy surrounding Ilhan Omar. What I should have done was search Omar on Politico and post a selection of articles regarding the controversies surrounding her.... https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/11/house-democrats-ilhan-omar-antisemitism-1163728 https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/01/ilhan-omar-anti-semitic-slur-1199495 https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/10/ilhan-omar-israel-aipac-money-1163631 https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/07/ilhan-omar-nancy-pelosi-democrats-1208842 https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/07/house-vote-ilhan-omar-rebuke-1209347 https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/09/trump-ilhan-omar-stephen-miller-1263652 https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/04/omar-israel-house-democrats-1201881 https://www.politico.com/newsletters/huddle/2019/03/08/dems-eager-to-move-on-from-omar-controversy-trump-scrambles-to-stamp-out-senate-gop-rebellion-gillibrand-struggles-to-secure-ny-endorsements-house-to-vote-on-mueller-resolution-next-week-406349 https://www.politico.com/newsletters/huddle/2019/03/06/house-dems-delay-omar-rebuke-amid-backlash-key-panel-prepares-to-seek-trumps-tax-returns-dem-probes-brace-for-subpoena-showdown-senate-gop-prepares-to-speed-up-trump-judges-404380 https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2019/03/05/ocasio-cortez-balks-at-democrat-leaderships-rebuke-of-omar-889246 https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/15/online-donors-ilhan-omar-1277273 https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/06/ilhan-omar-israel-democrats-1206740 https://www.politico.com/newsletters/huddle/2019/03/05/house-to-condemn-anti-semitism-after-omar-tweet-dems-deepen-probes-into-trump-world-white-house-not-sweating-wall-showdown-the-gaetz-scott-feud-spills-into-public-view-403924 As for me personally trying to discredit her, I am (apparently in a very ham-fisted way) making the point that what they are saying and the policies they are pursuing are playing into Trumps hands - they want him out but they are gifting him the election. Its reaching the point where Trump can virtually say or do anything and he'll still be viewed upon as the lesser of two evils. You don't have to like or agree with the fact that I say that their policies are un-American or that some people view various comments as hating America and you can ignore various polls and commentary with regards to how disliked they are, at the end of the day 2020 will give us a definite answer and imho that will mean 4 more years of Trump and probable Democrat implosion.
  5. Hmm, re-read the 'presumably' bit and agree that I misread. Apologies. As for the Daily Wire article, it was easier to link one article summarising the broad spectrum of things she's been accused of than posting numerous articles. The final half dozen paragraphs of the Daily Wire article are interesting however as they show the controversy she is causing in her own party. If you still can't get over the fact its a Daily Wire article, take one from Politico its basically the same thing; https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/11/house-democrats-ilhan-omar-antisemitism-1163728 Re. Trumps 'egregious and unsubstantiated claims' given that the majority of the media has tried non-stop to bring him down or ensure he doesn't win the next election for the past few years why is it now looking increasingly likely he will win? Why are AOCs and Omar polling at around 20% and 9% respectively. Are their policies and insensitive comments playing into Trumps hands? I guess we'll find out next year.
  6. I get my news from a variety of sources. I'm just as likely to read (and post links from ) The Guardian as I am to read The Times, to watch Fox News as I am to watch CNN. Of course the Daily Wire/Fox News are right wing. US media is massively biased to either the right or the left, far more so even than here - if you want to see criticism of The Democrats go to Fox News/ Daily Wire etc, if you want to see criticism of The Republicans, go virtually anywhere else. For example Fox New and CNN are virtual mirror images of each other on mediabiasfactcheck.com. The difference is that recently Fox News has been scoring higher than left wing media outlets for accuracy of reporting and whilst their viewing figures are growing, CNN, MSNBC etc have plummeted. As for why Ilhan Omar repeatedly gets asked similar questions maybe its because she continues to give evasive answers or makes questionable comments. A bit like asking Boris Johnson about Islamophobia or Jeremy Corbyn about anti-Semitism and not the other way around or asking Gerrard Batten about Tommy Robinson at every interview during the Euro elections rather than UKIPs policies. Generic partisan journalism 😕 Now who is moving the goalposts? To begin with you change 'seemingly' to 'presumably' - putting words in my mouth and changing the context of what I said then you state that I think those congresswomen hate the US despite when asked to clarify an earlier comment I said words to the effect of their comments will lead some people to believe that they hate America. I am happy with what I've written and the best judges of how un-American their policies are or whether their speech has been interpreted as hating America will be the electorate next year.
  7. I replied previously to that, you can either take my answer or continue to put words in my mouth. Numerous studies recently have shown the Democrats lurching to the left, the progressives spurred on by social media are the minority and they are moving further away from the majority of voters. I don't have a crystal ball but I think the 2020 election could well be a watershed moment, if they lose heavily they could purge the progressives or 'the squad' could leave to start their own party. Ilhan Omar has a long history of questionable comments; https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omars-israel-comments https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/ilhan-omar-tweets-u-s-politicians-support-for-israel-is-all-about-the-benjamins-1.6920117 She also has a history of questionable 'no comment' as well such as refusing to condemn Antifa, refusing to condemn Al Qaeda, refusing to condemn gays being stoned to death under sharia law, refusing to condemn violence against Israel from Hamas etc. https://www.dailywire.com/news/45277/omar-refuses-condemn-gays-being-stoned-death-under-ryan-saavedra Imagine the outcry if it was Boris Johnson or Trump...
  8. see above post *d'oh, would be the start of a new page 😋
  9. Un-American as in the majority of people won't vote for it - socialism isn't in line with traditional American values. In the land of the free you are allowed to run for government with socialist policies but as they are viewed upon as un-American by the majority you won't get into office. Even in the era of Trump, people would still rather have him than socialism - the Democrat party as a whole aren't even sure its the right way to go 😕 I guess the 2020 election is when we'll find out.
  10. Uhm, no. Almost 80% of voters stayed home during her win and she won with just 15k votes compared to 11k for her opponent. https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/new-york-house-district-14-primary-election She has since made numerous gaffs and her rating in various polls is now down to around 20%, imho it will be a huge surprise if she gets re-elected next time.
  11. Very much in favour of free speech, bad ideas should always be challenged by good ideas. However both here and in the US we effectively have 2 party systems currently with very weak right-wing parties/leaders in power, IMO a center left party would win a massive majority at the next election if it got its act together, unfortunately the left are running wild in the US with what are viewed as traditionally un-American policies making them unelectable. The coming year could see Trump win again and both the Democrats and Labour rip themselves apart as they are unable to contain their fringe elements. It is my belief that overly restrictive PC culture and social media twitterati are driving society to breaking point, but thats a topic for another thread!
  12. Just so we're straight, are you implying that I'm an anti-Semitic, terrorist sympathising socialist?
  13. No, but if you start sympathising with the 7/7 terrorists and regularly make anti-Semitic comments whilst pushing a socialist agenda people might view that as un-British.
  14. Not really, as I've stated 'the squad' are promoting traditionally un-American socialist policies and they also say things that can and are viewed upon by many as hating America (sympathising with terrorists and making light of 9/11 being a prime example). There is nothing wrong with championing un-American policies however, free country 'n all that. My point is that given Trump is their only opposition, anything remotely center left should give them a landslide victory, but all indications are that the Democrats have shifted to far to the left and have become unelectable. The Democrats themselves are inching towards a fractured party as the moderates realise that 'The Squad' are pushing ideas that most Americans don't agree with. Again, I never said that their policies were motivated out of hatred. AOCs Green New Deal was ridiculous though and completely unachievable. I'm all for starting a conversation but a lot of it was cooked up in la-la land. She displays basic levels of ignorance all the time, such as costing NYC 25k+ jobs and $30bn being a prime example. By stating 'some people did something' when referring to 9/11, refusing to give a straight answer to 'Are you pro-al Qaeda?' asking for leniency in ISIS sentencing, refusing to condemn recent antifa attacks, often using anti-Semitic language amongst a host of other things is probably why a lot of people think she at least in part hates America and why she only has a 9% favourability rating.
  15. Sympathising with terrorists and promoting socialism as about as un-American as you can get. I'll bet good money that by referring to 9/11 as 'some people did something' a lot of Americians will have seen that as Ilhan Omar hating America. AOC not only comes out with repeated gaffs but misunderstands basic politics. She got elected on a technicality and will since be remembered as a person pushing socialism, a trillion dollar green new deal and more importantly to the people that will need to re-elect her, the person that cost her constituency 25k+ jobs. If she's still in a job at the next election, I'll be surprised. Trump, as with the Tories in the UK tell you everything you need to know about the current state of the left, both are weak and vulnerable yet the Democrats/Labour can't make any meaningful inroads. As unstable as Trump may be, he is still far better than the alternative at present.
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