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  1. 50 minutes of it will probably be 'supermarket music' due to it being under NDA.
  2. Really sad. Dropped my eldest son off in at Uni for the first time yesterday who I am very close to and get the Derby news over the radio on the way back. Talk about kicking a man when he's down. Walking around this morning in a bit of a daze - feels like there are 2 big holes in my life!
  3. Who'da thought @Stive Pesley would be the one to unify the forum 😛
  4. The zx81 was my first computer, quickly followed by 48k Spectrum and 128k Spectrums - happy days and set me up for a lifetime of computing 🙂 RIP Sir Clive
  5. There are easier ways to get followers on this board than from venturing into the Politics/Coronavirus forums 😛 Besides, maybe I should have more followers, or indeed a follower - as what I wrote was clearly more balanced then the article put forwards by The Telegraph.
  6. By 'semantics and quoting' I assume you mean facts. It shows the bias and agenda of the article.
  7. I saw this headline going around the other day - it does take a bit of a liberty though in how its worded... For example, only approx 8% of the population had been double jabbed by April 6th, 30% by May 16th and still (just) less than 50% by end of June - or the first 6 months of the year. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations?country=GBR Also, the data has removed clinically vulnerable people that had been included in the death statistics previously. More accurate official Public Health England data (for the past few weeks at 60%+ double jabbed) can be found here (p. 18-19); https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1016465/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_36.pdf Whilst is shows that the vaccines are working it does also show us that covid is still effecting the over 80s far worse than the under 80s - with the under 50s and certainly the under 30s whether vaccinated or not getting off very lightly. Manipulating the figures to spin the article wasn't very honest, but they are journalists so what its par for the course.
  8. Missed the match as I was coming back from holiday but a great effort by her - not only to win a Grand Slam at such a young as but as a qualifier as well. Hopefully a new star is born 🙂
  9. The problem with this thread and pandemic in general is that it affects people differently, you can't just post your opinion else you get torn to shreds so you have to post stats, studies, articles etc to back your opinions up - we can then argue over the merits of those than each other. Whilst we've known about a lot of these things for months we can still argue against them. We are probably all entrenched in our views but that doesn't stop us speaking up when new data arises that confirms our point of view - new evidence against child vaccination or news that the vaccinated can transmit covid at similar rates to the unvaccinated nullifying the passport argument for example. The Govt has flip-flopped enough during the past couple of years that nothing is ever really finished and if you believe strongly enough about something when new info or talking points arise this thread will continue to rumble on. I think we're a lot better behaved in general than we were in the old politics thread and respect each others opinions, you'll even find people such as @Stive Pesley and I agreeing at times 🤯 but sometimes you have to dig your heals in and stand up for what you personally believe is right which occasionally leads to rubbing people up the wrong way. Personally, I'm not going to apologise for being against passports and vaccinating under 18s. I'll agree to differ with a lot of things but these are my battle lines! I'll be respectful and polite whilst we're arguing but you're gonna have to have a very, very good argument to get me to back down.
  10. Well... you have highlighted several things there that need discussion! Do you have the right not to have the vaccine? And if so, should you be punished for not having it? Why do we need vaccine passports if you yourself are vaccinated and the vaccinated can spread it at similar rates to the unvaccinated? As for no further lockdowns, the Govt have refused to rule them out, have hinted at a October 'firebreak' and are expected to extend their emergency powers for another 6 months. And thats not to mention any of the other stuff we all talk about! Feel free to join us in the basement occasionally 🙂
  11. That is what I said. When we initially started the vaccine program it was for the elderly and vulnerable. As they started vaccinating younger and younger age groups I became increasingly concerned. Threatening the younger generation with vaccine passports to enjoy life is disgusting - they are at lower risk from covid and have more to lose should any long term complications arise. When you start vaccinating children, you have to be 100% no long term issues will arise - especially given their 99.995% survival rate. It is a new technology and a number of reputable scientists have voiced concerns. Given the extremely low risk to children, my argument is that we wait and see to be sure rather than potentially regret vaccinating a generation. https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-only-0-005-of-covid-infections-among-children-have-led-to-deaths-so-vaccine-would-have-to-be-very-low-risk-12351975 12-15yos could easily wait 5+ years for real world data to filter through whilst remaining in an age category that is barely touched by covid. The rush to vaccinate everyone asap is ignoring these studies coming through that suggest there are some short term risks and completely ignores any long term complications. The full picture is understanding that the younger generations are at minimal risk from covid. The vaccine may (or may not) ultimately end up costing them more than any benefits they receive. Before we vaccinate a generation however we have to be 100% certain that there will be no long term effects - and that can only be gained in the real world over time. Your final sentence works on the principle that you expect children to protect adults, specifically the elderly. I personally am only happy for that to happen with my children once the vaccine has been overwhelmingly safe in both the short and long term. Finally... I don't want to argue this point tbh, we've been over it multiple times in this thread. My recent interactions with this thread have mostly been to do with vaccine passports and the rush to vaccinate children and in last nights posts the BBCs disgusting propaganda video aimed at kids.
  12. Why am I advocating a change in approach if thats how science should work? The study which has literally just been published, suggests that younger people, especially 12-15yo males, are at higher risk from the vaccine - I am happy to wait for the paper to be peer reviewed or further studies undertaken and not rush into vaccinating children as many countries have done in the meantime. Now surely thats how science should work? Besides at the time I wasn't arguing about what the data shows us or what individual studies claim, I was wondering whether the BBC or the teaching profession for example will give children the full picture in an unbiased manner without pressure. The video the BBC has produced urges children to get vaccinated and puts them at loggerheads with their 'anti-vax' parents - yet there is no mention of how little covid affects children, potential complications with the vaccine (both short/long term). Just a disgusting attempt at driving a wedge in the family and unequivocally pushing the vaccine without consequence.
  13. A team led by Dr Tracy Hoeg at the University of California investigated the rate of cardiac myocarditis - heart inflammation – and chest pain in children aged 12-17 following their second dose of the vaccine. They then compared this with the likelihood of children needing hospital treatment owing to Covid-19, at times of low, moderate and high rates of hospitalisation. Researchers found that the risk of heart complications for boys aged 12-15 following the vaccine was 162.2 per million, which was the highest out of all the groups they looked at. Evidence from studies show it is unlikely for boys to suffer either heart problems from the vaccine or be hospitalised by Covid. The second highest rate was among boys aged 16-17 (94.0 per million) followed by girls aged 16-17 (13.4 per million) and girls aged 12-15 (13.0 per million). Meanwhile, the risk of a healthy boy needing hospital treatment owing to Covid-19 in the next 120 days is 26.7 per million. This means the risk they face from heart complications is 6.1 times higher than that of hospitalisation.
  14. I wonder if the BBC will include this new information in an updated version of their propaganda video...
  15. Its just the actual video from the BBC with subtitles - no commentary. EDIT: I originally saw it a few days ago and searched for it on twitter earlier to post on here - just posted the first tweet I saw that had it. I realise that was a mistake now and should have spent the extra time searching the BBC timelines. Same video direct from BBC;
  16. I just saw the video on twitter, what the JCVI say or whether the person tweeting has a flag in their bio or not, I don't really care - the point I was making was the overt BBC bias in their video. Regardless of anything else, how can kids possibly make up their own minds when they are being pressured by the BBC with scaremongering, heavily biased videos designed to drive a wedge in the family and by their teachers as school; https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/jun/04/school-leaders-say-pupils-should-vaccinated-as-matter-of-priority As I said earlier, here's hoping kids get to make an informed choice.
  17. Here's hoping they get informed of the risks. Meanwhile, from the BBC...
  18. I know what you're saying, all I'm arguing is that unless you pin people down you can't force them to have a jab *and* unfortunately in some sectors that will lead to a long term shortfall in staff and other problems/deaths. You can train more teachers or bus drivers in the long term - kids will just have to miss yet a bit more school 😕 but in the UK we are already 100k care staff short, if 10% of those currently working in care are put out of work in November due to their vaccination status the cost could be deadly. FWIW, I'm not arguing for either situation, I personally don't know what to do - ideally I would leave it to personal choice but can see the benefits in being vaccinated for certain jobs. I am however strongly against mandating the jab and can see potential problems arising if it goes ahead or not. Who'd be a politician...
  19. Yup, health care is a crappy, underpaid job and naturally some people, especially the younger generations are wary of the new vaccine. If just 10% leave an already understaffed sector could be crippled putting a lot of lives at risk. I'm not saying its right or wrong, but mandating vaccines could lead to the very same deaths of people you are trying to protect.
  20. The article suggests a link. More than half that caught it are bus drivers that surely interact with thousands of people throughout the day? It also mentions nothing any health/weight issues etc - bus drivers tend not to be the fittest of people for example! We know the fatality rate now and who is at the most risk, if people don't want the jab imho its up to them - everyone has surely had the opportunity by now. Mandating vaccines (or vaccine passports) will lead to a lot of resentment, job losses (inc services not being delivered) and potentially violence.
  21. Welcome to my world... I've never voted in a generl election. If it was a PR system I would vote green and hope they got a large enough vote to have an influence, but until the system changes I will never vote. I was hoping that general apathy with the system and the falling voter turnout would lead to a change in the system, but given how spicy recent times have been that theory has fallen by the wayside 😕
  22. Sorry, ignore that - I shouldn't post until my morning coffee has kicked in 😛 I read it as a school, it would seem its the entire school district including 7 bus drivers; https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/571214-13-miami-area-school-staffers-die-of-covid-19-since-start-of-new So I would imagine that the fatality rate is broadly in line with the data and in the cases of the bus drivers at least, very difficult to absolutely pin on the school system.
  23. Unless it leads to staffing shortages 😕 https://news.sky.com/story/draconian-mandatory-jabs-for-care-home-staff-rule-must-be-repealed-unison-says-amid-fast-approaching-deadline-12398418
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