May Contain Nuts Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, EnigmaRam said: I can’t see how we will comply with the preferred method of amortisation or we would have just used that in the first place. We will have used it to provide us with further leg-room, to enable us to remain active & competitive in the transfer market for more than just freebies & loans, whereas following the standard method would have simply seen us stay within limits but have no power / room / money to sign anyone. In other words, the reason we've used ourmethod isn't in order to keep within limits, it's to push them. Theoretically, anyway. Edited June 24, 2021 by Coconut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 40 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: But the final line on the web page: "* Please note that these fixtures are subject to change and at this stage the fixture list is regarded as a DRAFT." So buying a season ticket is regarded as draft as well then ( not a pop at you Roy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Is there a precedent here for a retrospective relegation? All I can recall is teams getting points deductions either in the season they're actually playing, or deferred to the start of the next season. I don't recall ever getting to the point where a team is ready to kick-off the next season and then get retrospectively relegated. I've said this before in that we've clearly played the game to try and get to the PL, as many team who don't get parachute payments do. Constrained financially by restrictive rules. But this whole episode smacks of a witch hunt by the EFL. We've suffered so much already, with barely a team to start the season with. And now this. Will they ever let it go? Absolutely doing my head in. Rammy03, David Graham Brown, angieram and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Also, what if Derby just go into administartion citing the £100k fine then the new ownership immediatly removes us from admin? 12 point deduction. To retain our place in the EFL we would need to agree to pay off all footballing debts in full before exiting administration. We'd have the choice of still paying the £100k or dropping out of the league. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: 12 point deduction. To retain our place in the EFL we would need to agree to pay off all footballing debts in full before exiting administration. We'd have the choice of still paying the £100k or dropping out of the league. #announcetheEastMidlandsSuperleague Sparkle and ramison 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 23 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Why is this being challenged now? "Further issue is how the £12m profit on writing off some shares in 2016 is classified for FFP." We weren’t charged for anything to do with that £12 million though ( I strongly suspect a lot of clubs have done that and by a lot more) RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyram Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Derbados said: ****** hell, how many times can the EFL appeal!!? they didn’t like the original decision, so they appealed, they’ve now got the appeal decision, they don’t like that so they’re now going to appeal the appeal! This is absolute madness, do they just keep appealing until they get the answer they want!? I’m sure I read that only Derby could appeal the arbitration panels decision and not the EFL……. complete drawn out farce that leaves us in total limbo yet again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: #announcetheEastMidlandsSuperleague Not sure Leicester city will want to join and we could lend a pitch to Mickleover sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Ram Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Given it’s taken 2 yrs to get to this stage I don’t see how we suddenly get a points deduction to end up in League One straight away. Feels more likely we’ll still be in the Chanpionship but they’ll try their hardest to give us a points deduction during the season. Not that they need to bother as dragging this out effectively sends us down anyway. The EFL must be full of Forest fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Not sure Leicester city will want to join and we could lend a pitch to Mickleover sports Leicester will be begging to join so they can renew their glamour rivalry with Cov city! Flying Fokker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, BucksRam said: Is there a precedent here for a retrospective relegation? All I can recall is teams getting points deductions either in the season they're actually playing, or deferred to the start of the next season. I don't recall ever getting to the point where a team is ready to kick-off the next season and then get retrospectively relegated. I've said this before in that we've clearly played the game to try and get to the PL, as many team who don't get parachute payments do. Constrained financially by restrictive rules. But this whole episode smacks of a witch hunt by the EFL. We've suffered so much already, with barely a team to start the season with. And now this. Will they ever let it go? Absolutely doing my head in. There isn't a precedent because it's bloody ridiculous. We're only a few weeks away from kicking off, players will be returning soon. It's farcical that we could be relegated in pre season. Mountain Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, Donnyram said: I’m sure I read that only Derby could appeal the arbitration panels decision and not the EFL……. complete drawn out farce that leaves us in total limbo yet again Yes, I am sure I read that as well a while back, earlier on in the saga. As well as the 100k fine did we have to pay the legal costs of the EFL? I am just wondering what this is costing the EFL and what they now have to gain from taking this further. They have saved face as we have been fined and deemed to be 'guilty' of something but is it really in their interests to drag this on? Hopefully common sense will prevail and we all can move on..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 If KM is right then we've got knacker all to worry about and the EFL are going to be left looking like idiots when all of the other fans have a meltdown about us not being thrown in to the Vanarama National League North Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnstile Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 9 hours ago, S8TY said: Cmon Mel come out this morning and tell us we are going to be ok ffs He’d be lying through his teeth if he said that.??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 If we're delving into the past how about going through qpr Watford and Bournemouths accounts from recent years and retrospectively screw them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eddie Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: There isn't a precedent because it's bloody ridiculous. We're only a few weeks away from kicking off, players will be returning soon. It's farcical that we could be relegated in pre season. Settling things in pre-season would be a dangerous precedent. Forest fans won't have to wait until the end of August before claiming they've won the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Just now, JfR said: Sounds like the club are as sick of the EFL's poo as everyone else is. r_wilcockson, Derby4Me, Rammy03 and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, JfR said: Love this from the club. I've read many club statements over the last few years but this has got to be up there with the best. It just exposes the EFL for what it is, an incompetent organisation who really don't have a leg to stand on. r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Last night the Disciplinary Commission communicated the following findings to the parties: 1. It declared the Club’s accounts for years ended 30 June 2016, 30 June 2017 and 30 June 2018 did not comply with the requirements of the Championship Profitability and Sustainability Rules (‘the P&S Rules’). 2. It ordered the Club submit revised accounts for those years by 18 August 2021 using a policy for the amortisation of player registrations which complies both with the requirements of FRS 102 and with the P&S Rules. 3. It issued the Club with a reprimand, along with a fine of £100,000." RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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