CornwallRam Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 52 minutes ago, Curtains said: We’ll probably yes . I argued we should have kept Cocu party because of the cost of sacking him and it appears it was 8 Million ! This sack sack sack of managers has not helped us. Probably very damning that he was sacked with the agreement of the fake sheikh. I dare say that Mel wasn't expecting to have to pay the compensation himself. r_wilcockson, jimtastic56 and Curtains 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, NottsRam77 said: The article also talks about ongoing losses of x amount haven’t we got only about 10 players registered to the club ? ok not quite that but we must have a pretty low wage bill look at forest for instance the have more centre midfielders on their books than we have registered players Although the wage bill is apparently pretty small by recent standards, our income has never been lower. Even our season ticket income is going to be almost nothing as most will roll over from last season. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, Alan Ramage 4 EVA said: Nothing to do with the main topic .But re players wages I remember going to the ticket office at the BBG 1979 ish ,and passing Alan Biley walking the opposite way opening his wage packet head down counting his money( REAL money). How times have changed I'm sure my mate saw Cloughie doing much the same, think it was a brown paper bag though and weirdly he was getting it in a deserted car park... (joke obviously..) jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therams69 Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 Appreciate we all have views on the Daily Mail or the EFL for that matter but there is never smoke without fire. As I said, we can bury our heads in the sand all we like and just say these articles are rubbish and they have it in for us but I am sorry but these are concerning issues that are not going to go away and the Daily Mail are right to publish them. My personal opinion is that anyone would be stupid to takeover Derby County. Our club is in an absolute state of a mess. What from the outside would look a great proposition is not so rosy for any potential investor, clearly. My original post was demanding that the custodians of our club speak to the fans and tell us what is going on. I stand by that and action is already underway to further pursue this. I do hope other fans feel it more so now. Stephen Pearce and Mel Morris have run this club into the ground. They are responsible for this and owe the fans an explanation. The next thing we will see is Wayne Rooney walk and I do not blame him. JMC, jimtastic56 and Derby blood 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 So it’s not all bad news then. LeedsRam1999, IslandExile, Anon and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Isn’t there some insolvency steps that occur before you are talking admin? Creditors getting Xp/£ rather than risk of nothing. Helping club recover should be in the interest of the creditors with chance of getting future return. I guess MM being one of the biggest creditors, probably the one not so keen? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eatonram Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Here is what I don’t get. The financial jeopardy at the club has not just appeared in the last few weeks or months. We have to assume Mel has always been aware of the financial position. And yet conscious decisions have been made in the last 9 months to sign Jozwiak and to sack Coccu and to incur the costs of extra loans in January. Surely if we were genuinely on a financial precipice you would stop spending and therefore making it worse? So perhaps naively I believe the situation is surviveable. Of course I may be wrong. jono, Rammy03, David Graham Brown and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, falconram said: How did we come to this mess from a business man who made plenty of money, worry time plus I here wages unpaid, how true I don't know but if so we in it deep It fairly simple - an owner trying to please 30,000 supporters with what they demanded (ambition) and once that isn’t going so well a major virus comes along and totally kills football income to a low percentage. one thing is for sure - there are going to be an awful lot of unemployed footballers this summer or ones appearing to be putting little effort in because they are now being paid 25-50% less than they were previously (obviously talking about the championship here) Ramarena, Kathcairns, jimtastic56 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 24 minutes ago, therams69 said: Appreciate we all have views on the Daily Mail or the EFL for that matter but there is never smoke without fire. As I said, we can bury our heads in the sand all we like and just say these articles are rubbish and they have it in for us but I am sorry but these are concerning issues that are not going to go away and the Daily Mail are right to publish them. My personal opinion is that anyone would be stupid to takeover Derby County. Our club is in an absolute state of a mess. What from the outside would look a great proposition is not so rosy for any potential investor, clearly. My original post was demanding that the custodians of our club speak to the fans and tell us what is going on. I stand by that and action is already underway to further pursue this. I do hope other fans feel it more so now. Stephen Pearce and Mel Morris have run this club into the ground. They are responsible for this and owe the fans an explanation. The next thing we will see is Wayne Rooney walk and I do not blame him. Why? Is he resurrecting his playing career? Deej and IslandExile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Eatonram said: Here is what I don’t get. The financial jeopardy at the club has not just appeared in the last few weeks or months. We have to assume Mel has always been aware of the financial position. And yet conscious decisions have been made in the last 9 months to sign Jozwiak and to sack Coccu and to incur the costs of extra loans in January. Surely if we were genuinely on a financial precipice you would stop spending and therefore making it worse? So perhaps naively I believe the situation is surviveable. Of course I may be wrong. And paying to relay the pitch. You'd think we'd be cutting costs everywhere we can rather than spending money on things we don't actually need to do. David Graham Brown and r_wilcockson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 23 minutes ago, therams69 said: Appreciate we all have views on the Daily Mail or the EFL for that matter but there is never smoke without fire. I've seen that phrase used a few times recently on here. Tabloid scum like the Mail exist because people trot out that phrase. If you were accused of a crime you didn't commit, would you want to be judged by someone who believed there is never smoke without fire? Archied, HorsforthRam, Grimbeard and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 30 minutes ago, therams69 said: Appreciate we all have views on the Daily Mail or the EFL for that matter but there is never smoke without fire. As I said, we can bury our heads in the sand all we like and just say these articles are rubbish and they have it in for us but I am sorry but these are concerning issues that are not going to go away and the Daily Mail are right to publish them. My personal opinion is that anyone would be stupid to takeover Derby County. Our club is in an absolute state of a mess. What from the outside would look a great proposition is not so rosy for any potential investor, clearly. My original post was demanding that the custodians of our club speak to the fans and tell us what is going on. I stand by that and action is already underway to further pursue this. I do hope other fans feel it more so now. Stephen Pearce and Mel Morris have run this club into the ground. They are responsible for this and owe the fans an explanation. The next thing we will see is Wayne Rooney walk and I do not blame him. Demanding???? The modern-day supporter! Gaspode, angieram and jono 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 59 minutes ago, Alan Ramage 4 EVA said: Nothing to do with the main topic .But re players wages I remember going to the ticket office at the BBG 1979 ish ,and passing Alan Biley walking the opposite way opening his wage packet head down counting his money( REAL money). How times have changed Me too, only it was Frank Wignall, limping badly, going very gingerly in the direction of the bookies. I asked him why he was limping, and he mumbled "Dat bar steward McGovern kicked me in der training." From that day forth, testicles have always been thought of as 'trainings'. IslandExile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 45 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: Probably very damning that he was sacked with the agreement of the fake sheikh. I dare say that Mel wasn't expecting to have to pay the compensation himself. Pretty sure that the esteemed Percy said that Cocu and co left by mutual consent plus that Cocu being the gentleman he is had waived most of the compensation he was entitled to and took only a negligible sum ? Ramarena, DCFC1388, Indy and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 28 minutes ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: Creditors getting Xp/£ rather than risk of nothing. That's called 'doing a Leicester' and I want no part of it. HorsforthRam and Reggie Greenwood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Thought I had seen this , calling the 8 million as BS as per @Coconut ThePrisoner, IslandExile, Indy and 8 others 4 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby blood Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 41 minutes ago, therams69 said: Appreciate we all have views on the Daily Mail or the EFL for that matter but there is never smoke without fire. As I said, we can bury our heads in the sand all we like and just say these articles are rubbish and they have it in for us but I am sorry but these are concerning issues that are not going to go away and the Daily Mail are right to publish them. My personal opinion is that anyone would be stupid to takeover Derby County. Our club is in an absolute state of a mess. What from the outside would look a great proposition is not so rosy for any potential investor, clearly. My original post was demanding that the custodians of our club speak to the fans and tell us what is going on. I stand by that and action is already underway to further pursue this. I do hope other fans feel it more so now. Stephen Pearce and Mel Morris have run this club into the ground. They are responsible for this and owe the fans an explanation. The next thing we will see is Wayne Rooney walk and I do not blame him. Again a post i agree with 100 percent, and if we are paying Cocu 8 million that is totally beyond barmy, but for the last few years Mel has destroyed a club he supported all his life, hope he can sleep at night, because at the moment i am finding it hard to, i am so worried, that there is still worse to come. Please someone SAVE our Derby County. therams69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: Thought I had seen this , calling the 8 million as BS as per @Coconut Beat me to finding/posting the tweet by about 20 seconds! Some fans really seem to enjoy sticking the boot in to their own club. Things are bad enough without doing that. Edited May 15, 2021 by Coconut Carnero, HorsforthRam, Reggie Greenwood and 7 others 6 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Derby blood said: Again a post i agree with 100 percent, and if we are paying Cocu 8 million that is totally beyond barmy, but for the last few years Mel has destroyed a club he supported all his life, hope he can sleep at night, because at the moment i am finding it hard to, i am so worried, that there is still worse to come. Please someone SAVE our Derby County. See the tweet I embedded from John Percy. No way we owe PC 8mill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby blood Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Coconut said: Beat me to finding/posting the tweet by about 20 seconds! Some fans really seem to enjoy sticking the boot in to their own club. No mate never put the boot into our club, just the owner, who is destroying the club we all love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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