therams69 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) Hi everyone, I have posted this on my personal facebook but want to let everyone else know as well hence why I have started a new thread. As fans we need to be collectively acting now on the back of the group Club 84 raising various issues over the past week or so. Do no bury your heads in the sand any longer. I am concerned. Spent this last week focusing on something that means a hell of alot to me, Derby County. This past year has been tough on me, sure you all know that and my primarily focus has been on my business and family. A new addition in Phoebe, a house move that now risks having houses built at the back of us replacing the green belt land that reside on the land and then working most nights delivering Uber to bring some income in, not to mention home schooling. So I haven't had the time to think about Derby County but it has now come to a tipping point where I am very concerned about our club. Regardless of the result on Saturday, this club in my opinion is in serious danger and when I say that I mean it in the strongest of terms. Should this takeover not happen then I worry that we will have no club to return to. Over the past few weeks many supporters group and the local press have requested that either Mel Morris or Stephen Pearce just come out and gives us fans some 'reassurance' that our club will be secure in the event of the takeover collapsing. This has been refused many times. I have been involved with the club for around 15 years now and have attended many meetings including the supporters committee that meet every couple of months and improving the atmosphere etc etc... Always had a very good relationship and a mutual respect with both Mel & Stephen. There was plans for a protest after the game on Saturday (now been called off due to safety concerns with the Arena Vaccines) and originally this could have simply been avoided by either of them coming out to give us fans reassurance. I asked the question a couple of days ago and they have refused to come out and say 'anything'. It does not need a genius to work out that this is an absolute disgrace of respect for us fans. The same people who asked fans to donate their Season Ticket money to the club in the middle of a pandemic to help it be run as opposed to having a refund. The absolute pure cheek of it is astounding. When things go silent and when people in authority refuse to speak to the biggest stakeholders of this football club, which if you didn't know, is us fans, then questions and concerns need to be raised and answered and unfortunately certain people are hiding - draw your own conclusions on that. The focus without doubt needs to be on the game on Saturday but irrespective of the outcome, Derby County are in serious danger and as fans we need to act. Do not say to me that it will all be okay if we stay up, it won't be. Do not be naïve to think that. We are in a huge mess. There is a reason why accounts get published and that is so fans can understand the situation of our club. This is way overdue, why?. Mel Morris has invested alot of money in this football club but whilst doing so has made us an absolute embarrassment in the football world and has failed. Selling the stadium to himself was done because he overspent and screwed up. So many thought it was clever, it really wasn't - it was hiding his mistakes as custodian to this football club which resulted in the football club no longer owning the biggest asset which in turn will make any takeover complicated. Let's not even go there with the Arab failed takeover, due diligence of any interested party failed big time there and weeks were wasted with it. Under his command we have seen absolute appalling recruitment. This has never been addressed despite being raised time and time again. In fact, we may as well appoint him as manager as I always thought it should be the football club manager that targets & buys players. I dont need to name names with this one but there is a player at this club who has never played second time around and is getting paid very well, wonder why... Clearly our season has been nothing short of a shambles. You cannot blame the kids and you cannot blame the players to a degree, it isn't there fault they are not good enough. The captain of the ship is responsible for this. Important we back the lads tomorrow and hope and pray they get us over the line to keep our Championship status. This post is not a rant. Its reality that our football club and the fab Derby people that work within it are in serious danger of being no more. Please do not say to me that this derails tomorrow, I am sorry but the situation is far worse than the potential relegation we face tomorrow. Feel free to bury your heads in the sands but things need to change at Derby County and quick before it really is to late. I would say to Mel & Stephen, feel free to respond and give us reassurances, but they have already refused to do so. That my friends is all you need to know about who we currently have running our beloved Derby County. Stephen Pearce needs to resign. Any CEO of any business does not hide like what you have. Mel Morris needs to depart this football club and take all the debt with him. The stadium should be given back to the football club and included in any sale. He should swallow his pride and sell this great football club to the 'best' candidate and not just who he prefers. We both know there are offers on the table and you know who they are from. After all, you are Derby through and through - said no one ever but you. Nick Edited October 7, 2021 by Boycie We aren't in liquidation. At the minute, but there’s still a chance. dcfc4ever, Derby4Me, Nuwtfly and 22 others 7 16 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, therams69 said: This post is not a rant. Kenavo, Jourdan, Red_Dawn and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therams69 Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 Just now, Wolfie said: Rants tend to be off the cuff where as facts are different! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsy1884 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 It this based on anything other than just senior officer at Derby not wanting a chat? SFox1993, Reggie Greenwood, Carnero and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 When you say.. this has been refused many times does this mean Morris or Pearce or a spokesperson have actually told you they refuse to provide an update? Or are you just talking radio silence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Seems like a rant to me. I would guess that they are keeping things confidential during a sensitive period. MickD, DCFC1388 and jono 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therams69 Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 minute ago, kingsy1884 said: It this based on anything other than just senior officer at Derby not wanting a chat? Far from that. I would love for you to tell me one person, whether a Journo, club official etc that can tell us this football club is going to be okay, they can't because it wont be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therams69 Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 Just now, Yani P said: When you say.. this has been refused many times does this mean Morris or Pearce or a spokesperson have actually told you they refuse to provide an update? Or are you just talking radio silence? The top 2. Spokespeople are irrelevant as they are just fed info from the top as if the top 2 refuse to speak then what are we left with - silence. Question is why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, therams69 said: Rants tend to be off the cuff where as facts are different! LOL there is a price for a seat at the table and not many of us could afford it. Not sure what a few non committal platitudes would do to reassure us. bcnram and Carl Sagan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therams69 Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 minute ago, bcnram said: Seems like a rant to me. I would guess that they are keeping things confidential during a sensitive period. So the current custodians of our football club are keeping quiet because saying we are going to be okay is confidential. Nothing confidential about it and does not affect any NDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Red_Dawn, cheron85, LazloW and 4 others 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosythram Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Clearly some people have to much time on there hands, transactions are in reality conducted in the public domain so why should this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, therams69 said: So the current custodians of our football club are keeping quiet because saying we are going to be okay is confidential. Nothing confidential about it and does not affect any NDC. Sometimes it is better to say nothing than feed platitudes because a small self-appointed group think they should. Tamworthram, Carnero and Wolfie20 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 I agree with what's been said, almost word-for-word, but what can the fans realistically do? Morris wants to leave so badly that he's willing to sell to literally anyone. We've got no one really running the club. I mean, it's the end of the season and we can't even buy tickets for next season yet? We support a football club where the football has been a secondary issue for the past 12 months. It's so difficult to enjoy at the moment. The NFL season was a happy distraction for a small period before the new year, but since that's finished and I've only had Derby to focus on I've become so bitter towards the club and the whole sport in general. I wish I could take a break from everything Derby County until the club starts taking itself seriously again. It's not that easy. i-Ram, archram, HuddersRam and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 I might be being naive here but how can the club come out and confirm anything just yet when they: 1. Don't know the outcome of the EFL appeal (which is the reason behind the delay in accounts, already confirmed by Stephen Pearce) 2. Don't know whether or not the takeover is going through 3. Don't know the final outcome of the Keogh appeal and any compo we may have to pay 4. We don't know which league we will be in next year which impact the finances either way Carl Sagan, Premier ram, Rampage and 5 others 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therams69 Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, bcnram said: Sometimes it is better to say nothing than feed platitudes because a small self-appointed group think they should. In fairness Club 84 are worried about the club. I am worried about the club. You know when I said about burying head in the sand........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therams69 Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: I might be being naive here but how can the club come out and confirm anything just yet when they: 1. Don't know the outcome of the EFL appeal (which is the reason behind the delay in accounts, already confirmed by Stephen Pearce) 2. Don't know whether or not the takeover is going through 3. Don't know the final outcome of the Keogh appeal and any compo we may have to pay 4. We don't know which league we will be in next year which impact the finances either way You are being naïve I am afraid. 1. When was the last time he came out and spoke to the fans. 2. We need to know that should the takeover not happen that the club will be fine. Dont need details on takeover. 3. Keogh issue not important. Probably end up losing though like we did with Sam. 4. Well if we go down that's 10m less income if reports are to be believed. Even if we stay up do not think that all will be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, therams69 said: Rants tend to be off the cuff where as facts are different! LOL What are these 'facts', as opposed to forum chat, newspaper articles quoting 'a source' and any other media outlet who's main aim is to peddle gossip? The only fact I'm aware of is the absence of any recent comment from the one person who is guaranteed to know the current financial situation at the Club - Mel Morris. Yes, I'm sure we would all feel better if he came out and told us what we want to know but like it or not, we must wait for that to happen when he deems fit. We all know how precarious our league position is, you don't have to be a genius to work that out and everyone is entitled to an opinion as to where the blame lies as far as that is concerned but once again i get the impression people are quoting facts when clearly they are not. Stuniverse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Oh look, another "super fan", far superior us mere mortal season ticket holders. Dave. Will Hughes Hair, Mihangel, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta and 7 others 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) I'm doing my bit Edited May 7, 2021 by Gaspode Red_Dawn, SKRam, Grimbeard and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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