Gaspode Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, therealhantsram said: More from The Athletic report... They say the funds are coming from the Alonso family's personal wealth, plus a consortium of other investors. So a direct contradiction of Kieran Maguire. They go on to say they expect the EFL to approve the deal without any hitches. I don't believe that Maguire has any inside knowledge at all - not sure why people are so keen to hang on every word he utters.... Edited April 8, 2021 by Gaspode ThePrisoner, Betty Swollocks, Andicis and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, OUTSIDER said: can a 29 year old do what many experienced businessmen couldn't do, run the club financially and steady the ship? he talks the talk on twitter how the good days will be back, which i love his enthusiasm , BUT i have doubts, seeing as he is a in the boxing game, he be handy for forest away next season lol He’s better not get on the wrong side of the Notts Forest owner if he lives in a wooden house. ? Reggie Greenwood, Steve How Hard? and Ellafella 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Gaspode said: I don't believe that Maguire has any inside knowledge at all - not sure why people are so keen to hang on every word he utters.... Ryan Conway is only saying what he’s been told by the new owners or associates of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Just now, Boycie said: Ryan Conway is only saying what he’s been told by the new owners or associates of them. Exactly - not a fan of Conway but he does have contacts and does seem to be right more often than he's wrong. Maguire seems to trawl google and social media for his inside track..... Mihangel, Betty Swollocks, derby8 and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihangel Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Gaspode said: I don't believe that Maguire has any inside knowledge at all - not sure why people are so keen to hang on every word he utters.... He doesn't, none at all. He's a teacher after all, why would he? He does speak some obvious bollards that he isn't pulled up on.... 3 minutes ago, Boycie said: Ryan Conway is only saying what he’s been told by the new owners or associates of them. The cheek of it, a journalist asking questions of the very person who may have some answers! Granted, he may not be honest but it's a better start than trawling Sheff Wed forums as per Maguire. Grimbeard, Ghost of Clough, Boycie and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoooMarkWright Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gaspode said: Exactly - not a fan of Conway but he does have contacts and does seem to be right more often than he's wrong. Maguire seems to trawl google and social media for his inside track..... May I ask why you are not a fan of Conway? He seems to have great sources around the club, and some of his articles about Derby have been to a very high standard and provided great insight on a variety of topics. The only thing I don’t like at times are his ‘tactical’ pieces. It’s a shame local journalists don’t go into the same depth that he does. Just to bring it back on topic, the article also mentions looking at the way the club look at recruitment! Andicis, angieram, HorsforthRam and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Jayram said: Problem with that (if true) is that Morris gets to keep all the profits from the concessions at the stadium - the club will get no benefit from in stadium sales. My local club Oxford United do not own their stadium; the former owner does and the revenue loss is such that they have been desperately seeking somewhere to build a new stadium for years. I feel sorry for all those running shops and all the money from sales going to whoever is leasing the property out... Rev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, cstand said: If you’re a WASP? you mean people who float like a butterfly and sting like a bee? No that's a Boxer, Chinese aren't they? archram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 6 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: In my experience it's standard for anyone on the left to label anyone who disagrees with them "far right". It's the nature of the polarized societies we live in, driven in large part by social media algorithms. For balance you could've acknowledged that that happens both ways. jimbo jones, Carl Sagan, DarkFruitsRam7 and 3 others 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 36 minutes ago, enachops said: Summary of Athletic article: Pride Park included in sale. Alonso family form part of consortium along with several others. Dad was on Real Madrid board. Family have experience of football business/ marketing Morris likely not to be involved moving forward. Formality it seems of passing EFL test. Not part of VOX. Role at Sheffield Wed involved engagement/transparency with fans. Another good article by Ryan Conway, sounds promising. https://theathletic.com/2463267/2021/04/08/erik-alonso-Derby-countys-proposed-new-owner-and-what-it-means-for-mel-morris/ This article certainly makes this deal look a lot more ideal than I first expected. 3 minutes ago, enachops said: May I ask why you are not a fan of Conway? He seems to have great sources around the club, and some of his articles about Derby have been to a very high standard and provided great insight on a variety of topics. The only thing I don’t like at times are his ‘tactical’ pieces. It’s a shame local journalists don’t go into the same depth that he does. Just to bring it back on topic, the article also mentions looking at the way the club look at recruitment! I'm not a fan either to be honest. I'm sure he writes a number of good pieces but I just don't get the impression it's much more than I already knew anyway. Maybe it stems back to when he first started and his ITK pieces turned out to be a load of ****? Deej 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gaspode Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, enachops said: May I ask why you are not a fan of Conway? He seems to have great sources around the club, and some of his articles about Derby have been to a very high standard and provided great insight on a variety of topics. The only thing I don’t like at times are his ‘tactical’ pieces. It’s a shame local journalists don’t go into the same depth that he does. Just to bring it back on topic, the article also mentions looking at the way the club look at recruitment! The couple of times I've heard him interviewed he's come across as an arrogant whotsit who loves the sound of his own voice. Not doubting his contacts and journalistic skills - just a bit too far up himself for my liking..... Derby4Me, Ghost of Clough, OoooMarkWright and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 I doubt many read his articles as they’re behind a pay wall, then maybe make up opinions on content they’ve not read but only heard second hand in a Chinese Whisper kind of way? Maybe I’m one of those too, I’m going to cut the guy some slack on reflection. bcnram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Free ? for all then, cheers to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, therealhantsram said: The Athletic is this morning reporting that Erik has nothing to do with Vox and is stopping them for using his name. Really? I can't imagine a respectable far right party like Vox would operate in that way. If you can't trust the far right, who can you trust? Good news about Alonso though. I hope he turns out to be ultra woke. Will be interesting to see people who were happy to ignore any dangerous political views he may have, then lose their heads if he does/says anything they deem unacceptable. Bob Mash, GboroRam, Ramarena and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 We've tried a minted local owner with a lifelong connection to the club, and it's not exactly worked out. It's hard to see how a foreign owner, with no previous connection, and of unknown wealth can do much worse. Bookmark this, for when we start anew in the Midlands Alliance! Derby4Me and ariotofmyown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Why would the Vox party want to use his name and likeness? Who does he think he is, Connor McGregor? And if so, why would he follow multiple prominent members of that party on Twitter if you’re concerned about being associated with them? Chester40, HorsforthRam and GboroRam 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Interesting that he lists recruitment as something to look at. It is poor and overpriced recruitment by previous managers that are largely responsible for the recent financial position. cstand, Derby4Me, Betty Swollocks and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorsforthRam Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, Gaspode said: The couple of times I've heard him interviewed he's come across as an arrogant whotsit who loves the sound of his own voice. Not doubting his contacts and journalistic skills - just a bit too far up himself for my liking..... I gave him a lift back to Leeds (where he used to live) from Derby after a match just after he started reporting on Derby. Wasn’t arrogant at all. He’s a nice bloke, enthusiastic and has immersed himself in the club. Doesn’t take himself too seriously and strikes a good balance between analysis of tactics, players and the different personalities he comes across at our football club derby8, Andicis, Boycie and 8 others 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstand Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: Really? I can't imagine a respectable far right party like Vox would operate in that way. If you can't trust the far right, who can you trust? Good news about Alonso though. I hope he turns out to be ultra woke. Will be interesting to see people who were happy to ignore any dangerous political views he may have, then lose their heads if he does/says anything they deem unacceptable. David Graham Brown, Grimbeard and maxjam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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