Rampant Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Has Morris found his tongue yet? The local media should be on his case asking if he has any comment for the supporters. Gritstone Tup, jimtastic56 and alram 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Tup Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 I can only think of one reason why anyone would be a MM fan and that’s if they support florist! alram and jimtastic56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Tup Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Rampant said: Has Morris found his tongue yet? The local media should be on his case asking if he has any comment for the supporters. The national press should be hanging him out to dry as well, this is the biggest scandal in football! oldtimeram, alram, jimtastic56 and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gritstone Tup said: The national press should be hanging him out to dry as well, this is the biggest scandal in football! The only thing I can forgive is that numerous other clubs cheated before us and Mel saw they got away with it and went for it in spades too. Assuming he is still worth millions, putting us into admin with the loss of jobs and unpaid debts to other businesses, is shameful. RAM1966 and jimtastic56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 On 18/11/2021 at 08:29, Crewton said: More importantly, where did your £45M figure come from? On 18/11/2021 at 08:29, Crewton said: More importantly, where did your £45M figure come from? Thought that was the figure bandied around right at the start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 On 18/11/2021 at 08:29, Crewton said: More importantly, where did your £45M figure come from? Sorry looks like my mistake, checked and 25-30 million were mentioned in the media not the 45 I though I had remembered Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, I know nuffin said: Sorry looks like my mistake, checked and 25-30 million were mentioned in the media not the 45 I though I had remembered Now you know sumfin. ? GB SPORTS, I know nuffin, Steve How Hard? and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBG83 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I still don't understand how MM can just walk away and leave the club, its fans, staff and players in such a mess. To continue to punish the club while the cause of the problems walks away is just scandalous. Abu Derby, jimtastic56 and Ted McMinn Football Genius 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 He needs to be brought to task for his actions Angry Ram and jimtastic56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eatonram Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Personally I dont hold any a particular grudge against MM. He took on ownership of the Club, made some poor decisions sometimes based on bad advice. Had some really tough breaks with player injuries...Thorne, Hughes, Bryson, Bielik, then Covid....I just dont see the point in turning on him I really dont. Foxy Ram, hintonsboots, I know nuffin and 6 others 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I do. He milked the adulation when things looked positive, couldn’t keep his trap shut, appearing on TalkSport whenever he liked, fans forums, giving it the big ‘un, yet not peep out of him when it all turned awry then he had the temerity to say if you say nasty things about me (at Pride Park) I’ll pull the plug. Nobody said nasty things about him at the ground and guess what ? He pulled the chuffin’ plug anyway. I’ve no time for him. BBG83, DanS1992, Taribo and 7 others 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Pearl Ram said: I do. He milked the adulation when things looked positive, couldn’t keep his trap shut, appearing on TalkSport whenever he liked, fans forums, giving it the big ‘un, yet not peep out of him when it all turned awry then he had the temerity to say if you say nasty things about me (at Pride Park) I’ll pull the plug. Nobody said nasty things about him at the ground and guess what ? He pulled the chuffin’ plug anyway. I’ve no time for him. I thought he said if the fans start chanting Morris out, he would join in ? Foxy Ram, Pearl Ram and jimtastic56 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberram Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 If he owns the ground, this is where we will see him for what he is, regarding what he does with it. He could give it back to the club and regain some credit jimtastic56, hintonsboots and CBRammette 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Eatonram said: Personally I dont hold any a particular grudge against MM. He took on ownership of the Club, made some poor decisions sometimes based on bad advice. Had some really tough breaks with player injuries...Thorne, Hughes, Bryson, Bielik, then Covid....I just dont see the point in turning on him I really dont. Edited November 19, 2021 by Tyler Durden jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Amberram said: If he owns the ground, this is where we will see him for what he is, regarding what he does with it. He could give it back to the club and regain some credit Admin have already said the stadium is part of the package and nothing has changed from that perspective. Whether it's gratis, no one knows. Tamworthram, r_wilcockson and jimtastic56 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 4 hours ago, ThePrisoner said: Admin have already said the stadium is part of the package and nothing has changed from that perspective. Whether it's gratis, no one knows. Think he will want to sell it for the amount of the loan on it, giving him a total of nothing RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Tyler Durden said: Totally agree. Whoever comes in needs to bring on new advisors and clear out anyone from the current advisors. Something within the club turns good players into poor players (Johnson, Butterfield ). That needs sorting. The whole scouting system needs removing and replacing with the manager involved in who comes in. Not clear how much influence most managers were involved previously but they need to be involved Abu Derby and Tyler Durden 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, I know nuffin said: Totally agree. Whoever comes in needs to bring on new advisors and clear out anyone from the current advisors. Something within the club turns good players into poor players (Johnson, Butterfield ). That needs sorting. The whole scouting system needs removing and replacing with the manager involved in who comes in. Not clear how much influence most managers were involved previously but they need to be involved I disagree with this in a way. I think we've needed a Director of Football these last 6 years, someone who will remain in post no matter what, and can plan recruitment accordingly, in line with the vision the owner has set out. Mel's 'Derby Way' was an admirable ambition, yet he never put in place the structure to achieve it, I suspect his ego overtook him and he thought he could fulfill the role himself. The position we've been in, and the position we're going to find ourselves in when the dust settles, are naturally going to lead to a high level of manager churn. Hire a manager and he does well, they'll be plucked away by the bigger boys, hire one who turns out to be a bad fit and we will sack them. In Mel's time, we've been through Mac, Clement, Wassall, Pearson, Powell , Mac again, Rowett, Lampard, Cocu and Rooney. All managers who set up and manage differently to their predecessor, and want different types of players in their squad. All we needed in that time was consistency of management styles, so the next man could hit the ground running from day one, and not have to tear apart and rebuild the squad. That's where a director of football may have a difference. Edited November 19, 2021 by Rev Missedout FlyBritishMidland, Dimmu, derbydaz22 and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM1966 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Rev said: I disagree with this in a way. I think we've needed a Director of Football these last 6 years, someone who will remain in post no matter what, and can plan recruitment accordingly, in line with the vision the owner has set out. Mel's 'Derby Way' was an admirable ambition, yet he never put in place the structure to achieve it, I suspect his ego overtook him and he thought he could fulfill the role himself. The position we've been in, and the position we're going to find ourselves in when the dust settles, are naturally going to lead to a high level of manager churn. Hire a manager and he does well, they'll be plucked away by the bigger boys, hire one who turns out to be a bad fit and we will sack them. In Mel's time, we've been through Mac, Clement, Wassall, Pearson, Powell , Mac again, Rowett, Lampard, Cocu and Rooney. All managers who set up and manage differently to their predecessor, and want different types of players in their squad. All we needed in that time was consistency of management styles, so the next man could hit the ground running from day one, and not have to tear apart and rebuild the squad. That's where a director of football may have a difference. A director of football would have made zero difference, just a pointless wage. Morris would have interferred, he micromanaged the whole downfall at every level at the club. He would not and did not take advice from thise around him, clearly he's not listened to Pearce regarding spending and budgets, had he of done so Pearce would of been sacked for the financial mess we were in. Look at the amount of companies set up, closed etc. All to aviod falling fowl of FFP P&S. Good knows how long its going to take to sort this mess out. I think with the Midlesborough and Wycombe legal action on going, there is a real danger that some if not all of the buyers may pull out. Don't get me wrong, I do not think there is a cat in hells chance either will be successful, but, it could well put off potential buyers. Investors do not like risk and £51m in claims against is is a huge risk..... Regarding Morris, as somone has already alluded to, the final act over the ground would be a very telling sign as to hiw much he cares about the fans and the club. Morris should really of place PPS into the melting pot when he put the club in admin. If he had an ounce of decency, if he gets any money back at all he should give to the local businesses/creditors creditors that may be at risk of going out if business. He should also enurse that loyal ex-employees recieve a decent redundancy package..... I just hope that the punishments are now over and tge EFL do not come sniffing around looking for more thing to punish us for diring the remainder of the 3 year P&S cycle we are currently in. Rant over Edited November 20, 2021 by RAM1966 i-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldben Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Doesn't Morris still own the ground that the new owner might wish to buy back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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