Foreveram Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, S8TY said: of course we can't change the past but for anyone to make excuses for Mel is beyond belief it really is!! Our Football club is in deep trouble and owes millions to HMRC ( No Excuses ) and yet some see that Mel is not totally to blame !!! it beggars belief!! We seriously might not even have a football club soon and although I agree ranting and raving will cure nothing I cannot and will not forgive MM of how he's treated this football club...Covid is not an excuse ...I don't see other clubs in a total embarrasing mess like us and I don't see other clubs making a complete hash of it regarding amortisation etc etc ...its a shambles full stop and starts and finishes with the head man who generously walked away.l...yeah thanks Mel.....lol..........The worst thing that ever happened to our club was the day MM gained control....we were not far away before he intervened and have gone backwards since and now face liquidation if we dont find 30m owed in taxes!!! I'll go further to say had we been run correctly we might be a lot nearer the prem than league1 if we have a football club to actually play in the 3rd tier ......shambles!!! and a disgrace!! I totally agree with you ranting and raving will cure nothing. PistoldPete and RAM1966 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 On 05/12/2021 at 20:31, Philmycock said: Mel could still pay the HMRC bill and save his club I don't think he can .....DCFC is a limited organisation so if he walks away the debt doesn't follow him it follows us...also how would it look if he paid the HMRC but then didn't pay other creditors ?? If he was going to pay that bill then surely he would've done so before being put into admin.....also if it was true some players like Buchanan were being touted by clubs for a few million why didn't he sell ?? when Collymore let it out of the bag that we were in deeper trouble than anyone imagined and could mean the club goes under he wasn't wrong and whats more is.....it hasn't happened overnight....well before covid was even mentioned we were being run very badly ....its actually heart breaking whats happened to us it really is ? Philmycock, jimtastic56 and Miggins 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingpin Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 23 minutes ago, S8TY said: The worst thing that ever happened to our club was the day MM gained control ???????? jimtastic56 and Jayram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 4 hours ago, atherstoneram said: Yes it was a gamble he chose to take but you need to be prepared to back it up if it doesn't happen Absolutely. I’m no Morris apologist. atherstoneram and RAM1966 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingpin Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Page 1 Rule number one of owning a football club.. Don’t put it at risk of going bust and into non existence. S8TY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Foreveram said: I totally agree with you ranting and raving will cure nothing. Haven’t you got hotels to book ? i-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Pearl Ram said: Haven’t you got hotels to book ? Already done, what’s your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Foreveram said: Already done, what’s your point. Of course they are, what with you being a super fan and all that. My point is if it makes somebody feel better to express their contempt against the previous owner they should be free to do so without flippant remarks such as the one you made. Everybody knows ranting and raving achieves little given the predicament of the club but if it allows an author to let off steam and feel better, the kind of trite reply you posted only serves to antagonise in my opinion. RAM1966 and S8TY 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 It’s not the ranting and raving it’s repeating the same thing over and over for 27 pages. We all get the point. It seems I’m not allowed to have have my say though. As for flippant remarks You’re the one that used the term superfan in a derogatory way mocking me for supporting the team home and away. Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 6 hours ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: . Your most insightful and least offensive post ever..... ? richinspain, angieram, DarkFruitsRam7 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 53 minutes ago, Foreveram said: It’s not the ranting and raving it’s repeating the same thing over and over for 27 pages. We all get the point. It seems I’m not allowed to have have my say though. As for flippant remarks You’re the one that used the term superfan in a derogatory way mocking me for supporting the team home and away. Its not meant to be repeating but if it is so what??...my point was there are some on here who defend MM and i find that incredible to find any defence....you say you can't have your say yet leave derisory remarks about others having there say!! ...we're all fans on here mate Gritstone Tup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 minute ago, S8TY said: Its not meant to be repeating but if it is so what??...my point was there are some on here who defend MM and i find that incredible to find any defence....you say you can't have your say yet leave derisory remarks about others having there say!! ...we're all fans on here mate Yeah but some of us are superfans.? S8TY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Foreveram said: I totally agree with you ranting and raving will cure nothing. Compared to some of the random diatrabes I've encountered on here littered with grammatical and syntax errors the OP's post was positively coherent. Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Compared to some of the random diatrabes I've encountered on here littered with grammatical and syntax errors the OP's post was positively coherent. Didn’t realise Simon Armitage was on the Forum. Tyler Durden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Parkstone Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 On 04/12/2021 at 22:04, PistoldPete said: Maybe all your taxes are deducted fronm your salary so you don't have a choice. ANd maybe the Government didn't tell you to stop earning anything.. but still expect you to pay wages to your staff and their taxes... out of thin air. This does raise the interesting question of whether DCFC claimed furlough money for non footballing staff, used this to pay them their net wages, having deducted their taxes ' NI and then didn't pay over those deductions even though the government had, largely, given us up to 80% of the gross pay. Tyler Durden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 If you'd like to repost without the personal insults then your posts won't be hidden. Apologies to those just replying to the posts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk Thrust Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Tyler Durden said: Compared to some of the random diatrabes I've encountered on here littered with grammatical and syntax errors the OP's post was positively coherent. Oh dear. It’s “diatribes”. Tyler Durden, cosmic, Comrade 86 and 2 others 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 28 minutes ago, angieram said: If you'd like to repost without the personal insults then your posts won't be hidden. Apologies to those just replying to the posts! I'm going to have to start taking screenshots of posts, just to remember what's what. It's like Memento on here!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 21 minutes ago, Turk Thrust said: Oh dear. It’s “diatribes”. TBH typos are the least of the problems for some of the posters on this thread. But anyway I think we do need to move on, if Morris can afford to pay the club's debts I think we all agree he should. But unfortunately we can't make him do that, even if he is able. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Rev said: I'm going to have to start taking screenshots of posts, just to remember what's what. It's like Memento on here!? What's memento? Here you are: I think the unique circumstances of Covid presented an opportunity Mel couldn't bring himself to overlook. In normal times, I doubt HMRC would overlook non payment for more than a quarter, maybe less now we're in real time reporting and payment. The Covid related amnesty on chasing HMRC debts allowed him to place the burden on the taxpayer, instead of himself, whilst thrashing around desperately to find a buyer. atherstoneram and Rev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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