Mucker1884 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, jono said: 2) Keogh is guilty of nothing except stupidity and bringing the club in to disrepute. He will have been fined by the club. But he hasn’t broken the law. Technically, he is (allegedly) guilty of not wearing a seat belt, which is of course illegal, though I'm not aware of any charges having been made... or pending? Not seen any evidence/statements/rumours regarding the club fining Keogh for his part in this whole sorry mess. Have I missed this? Do you have more info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Nuwtfly said: Perhaps this deserves another thread of its own but I find myself now asking: Are we a well run club or not? Were the musicians on the titanic playing their tunes well as the ship sank? Look at me, going all Cantona. Dethorn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Curtis Davies. Close but no cigar . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamRam Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 47 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: Nothing wrong with team bonding and the club organised a meal and transport home , nothing to say they included booze. That may have been the players after the event. Mr B Clough used to insist on players having a drink before certain games the culture the club alluded to has been present since the game began . My opinion not a PR balls up the club taking appropriate action at an appropriate time after Keogh’s surgery. Why would you arrange cars home if there is no booze involved ? At least we finding out what the Derby way is now, break the law, flee the scene of a crime, leaving your teammate injured as the result of your actions and you get a six week fine. Get in the car, and get a career threatening injury as the result of it, and you get sacked Once again the club shows it is driven only by money, otherwise there would have been consistency and the punishments would have been the same. Will the Ram, Dethorn, Pearl Ram and 3 others 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbydaz22 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ted McMinn Football Genius said: The other 2 idiots are fit to work, Keogh isn’t fit to work due to his poor decision. If a member of my staff made themselves unfit for work and incapable of their daily duties caused by a similar scenario. I wouldn’t be paying them to stay at home, they’d get their marching orders. Richard Keogh should be no different. I wouldn’t pay him a cent until he’s fit to return to work and the other 2 should consider themselves lucky they avoided injury and are available for selection. Spot on if the other could not play for 12 months I would expect the same,if I injured myself while drink driving I wouldn’t expect to get paid for 12 months while unable to work. taffyram, The Scarlet Pimpernel and Ted McMinn Football Genius 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) I bet the bottom line is, he won’t play again. It’s not like Shaun Barker who got injured playing. Keogh made a costly mistake. Derby don’t see why they should pay his wages. Quite right too. The whole episode has had an impact on the season. Someone I know told me a while back this was going to happen. He told me a few other things too. Edited October 30, 2019 by Van Gritters therealhantsram, Derby4Me and derbydaz22 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I am afraid his decision to reject the new contract says it all. His choice, his responsibility. Derby haven't show him a lack of respect, he has shown the club no respect here. An arrogance and an inability to take responsibility for his own actions. If Keogh has any issues with anyone, it should be himself and Lawrence. Hopefully this is the last of the fallout so we can move on and finally put this sorry mess behind us. Andicis, The Scarlet Pimpernel, RoyMac5 and 5 others 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, John_The_Waff said: So based on that club statement, I'd expect both Lawrence and Bennett to be sold in January. Based on that statement, Keogh is 34 coming back from a serious injury so can duck off. Bennett and Lawrence have value in money terms and FFP so they can stay. Like you say, hopefully they duck off in January. derbydaz22 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Norman said: People now talking about leadership. There isn't any at this club. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: Has he been sacked then? Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 There must be more to it than what we know LittleEatonRam, Coneheadjohn, DenmarkRam and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbydaz22 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, John_The_Waff said: So based on that club statement, I'd expect both Lawrence and Bennett to be sold in January. Why they are both Fully fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Skitz Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Not quite sure how I feel about the decision yet, especially as things may have gone on that we don’t know about. However, if this quote is genuine from the club, it makes a mockery of the fact that we’ve welcomed Lawrence and Bennett back into the fold, despite them being the only ones who put “themselves, their colleagues and members of the general public at risk of injury or worse”. this will be the big sticking point in any court case, legally speaking Keogh did nothing wrong and has been sacked, yet the 2 players criminally convicted continue to work for the club, presumably without a paycut, unless I missed that announcement. How long was left on Keogh's deal anyway? RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just now, nottingram said: There must be more to it than what we know I’m not sure why so many are dismissing this as a possibility. Decision was made after a hearing - and we haven’t heard all of it. LittleEatonRam and Ramarena 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosshogg Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Like others have said this does not sit easily with me as the other two have been seemingly ‘let off’ as it were. Morally it seems unfair. Legally however it would seem to be water tight. Disappointing that it has come to this as Keogh love him or not has been a good servant to the club up until this whole debacle. We don’t know the whole story at all, I’m sure in the years to come more will be revealed, but I can’t believe Keogh hasn’t accepted a reduced wage!? It’s still massive money and he won’t be able to sign for anyone else until/if he’s fully over the injury. No access to our staff and world class facilities either. Madness...... Steve How Hard? and rammieib 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 4 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Can't agree with you. Whilst we most certainly miss Keogh on the pitch I cannot help think that off the pitch he's the kind of leader we could well do without. TBH getting rid of him might help bring about a 'culture change' at the Club? At least if he leads the pub crawls, the players will drink less. It'll take him hours to limp the whole of the mile.? RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeTownRams Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 The lack of consistency with the relatively light punishments levied on Lawrence and Bennett worries me. If Keogh is sacked then they all should be. Then again that’s where the commercial side comes into consideration... maybe they were happy to let Keogh go but the 7.5 m spent on Lawrence is another thing.... Norman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Perhaps this deserves another thread of its own but I find myself now asking: Are we a well run club or not? The club is an absolute shambles and has been for years. It almost needs a multi billionaire businessman with no allegiance to the club whose sole purpose is to get to the promised land, come into the club, sack everyone and start again. Netflix would have a field day with our club. ariotofmyown, AdamRam, Charlie George and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeTownRams Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 The offer of a reduced wage prior to the sacking seriously undermines the Club’s legal position and case with this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Good, as Captain he should have taken Lawrence and Bennett's keys off them, sad way to end what could have been a Rams legend REDCAR and Derby4Me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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