alram Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Betty Swollocks said: So are you now contradicting yourself and saying that elite level players can still run and graft when they are "Old", but non-elite level players cant? no, elite level players can find ways around it with their superior skill and experience. we are talking a group of players that have won 5 champions leagues here not james chester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 11 hours ago, jono said: So Curtis, Jags, Fozzy, CKR who all held their own last year ? Sorry mate it isn’t about old V young it’s as @Rammy03said: Balance .. the right amount of youthful energy and endeavour mixed with the steel and wiles of experience. i am not disputing that but you cant build an entire team of them lets see what transfers we bring it, i would just like to see some younger up and coming players linked rather than those on the decline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, alram said: lets see what transfers we bring it, i would just like to see some younger up and coming players linked rather than those on the decline Like who though? Who is available as a free transfer? I've not seen many established up-and-coming players listed who are free agents and who fit your requirements. Caerphilly Ram, Taribo, Rammy03 and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 33 minutes ago, alram said: no, elite level players can find ways around it with their superior skill and experience. we are talking a group of players that have won 5 champions leagues here not james chester What about players who aren’t “elite” but have played 60 ish games at Premier League level, over 290 at championship level, over 30 internationals, experienced promotions in their career and are now willing to step down a league to bring that experience and quality to the Derby County rebuild….like James Chester perhaps? r_wilcockson and Rammy03 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: What about players who aren’t “elite” but have played 60 ish games at Premier League level, over 290 at championship level, over 30 internationals, experienced promotions in their career and are now willing to step down a league to bring that experience and quality to the Derby County rebuild….like James Chester perhaps? the exact same would have been posted about numerous players we have signed in the past 5 years that have turned out to be absolute horse radish. doing the same thing over and over again in a sign of insanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 22 minutes ago, alram said: Posting the same thing over and over again in a sign of insanity FTFY. Ramslad1992, Caerphilly Ram, Premier ram and 5 others 2 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 hours ago, alram said: i am not disputing that but you cant build an entire team of them lets see what transfers we bring it, i would just like to see some younger up and coming players linked rather than those on the decline No one is saying get a load of old fogeys in. You’re misreading what folk are saying. It’s balance. We need a handful of old stagers with nous and grit to go with our young guns. There were times last season, Curtis and Allsop aside when we had an entire team in their late teens early 20’s . They got out thought, or out muscled - not strictly speaking out played . You need something of both; young mixed with experience. Hey, like you I know we are missing a young or mid 20’s physically in their prime striker. We haven’t got a killer in the box, one full of youthful beans (I know I know Stretton but he isn’t proven in mens football yet to my mind) … but the signings so far at 28 and 30, plus a young GK look like just what we need and they are not crocks at that age. We do need more players at differing periods in their careers with differing attribute’s. Football is a game for fit players, they all have something to offer, be they 16 or 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 06:42, alram said: you are right i am not disputing his quality, he is a quality player for this division but what is our goal this season? if we dont think we can guarentee a promotion push then its money down the drain that would be better off spent on a younger player who can improve. the thing i have against this signing is that we are making the mistakes we made in the past. blinded by the players track record and thinking bloody hell he will be good. how often does it really work out like that? for me its doing the same thing we spent the last 5 years doing and have wasted a monumentum amount of money doing so. i just dont want us to do it again. stabalise the club with young players that can be treated as ASSETS and fill the rest out with loan players. for once, just once we need to look past the next transfer window as supporters. It hasn't gone unnoticed that you are sounding the ALARM by the way ? Completely unnecessary thou' we do however need a squad, and its looking good so far alram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 6 hours ago, DesertRam said: It hasn't gone unnoticed that you are sounding the ALARM by the way ? Completely unnecessary thou' we do however need a squad, and its looking good so far I don’t think some people are fully grasping the restrictions placed on us regarding signings. It’s ok saying we should be recruiting younger players for the future but any sensibly run club (unlike ourselves) will have their best young talent tied down to contracts and it seems we’re only shopping in the frees and loans market. We’ve got a few weeks to build a 25 man squad, it’s literally all about this window and this window only at the moment. Taribo, Sparkle, Comrade 86 and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Trav Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Hearing all 3 are done deals dcfcreece1601 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big Trav said: Hearing all 3 are done deals hintonsboots, RoyMac5, Norman and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 22 hours ago, alram said: the exact same would have been posted about numerous players we have signed in the past 5 years that have turned out to be absolute horse radish. doing the same thing over and over again in a sign of insanity Except we're not doing the same thing over and over again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfcreece1601 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, Big Trav said: Hearing all 3 are done deals Which 3? Chester , hourihane and mcgoldrick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 I'm not convinced we'll win many games with him in the side. I've heard a few people mention Chester draws. Hans Datdo-Dishes, Comrade 86, Anag Ram and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Big Trav said: Hearing all 3 are done deals I'm hearing Colin, no perhaps Constance, actually could be Conor. The feelings strong. Anyone know a Colin? Edited July 5, 2022 by i-Ram ThePrisoner, Hans Datdo-Dishes, MackworthRamIsGod and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 minute ago, i-Ram said: I'm hearing Colin, no perhaps Constance, actual could be Conor. The feelings strong. Anyone know a Colin? Warnock ? Hans Datdo-Dishes, Crewton, Steve How Hard? and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 53 minutes ago, Big Trav said: Hearing all 3 are done deals How is LR…..send him my regards ? ThePrisoner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk Thrust Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 3 hours ago, i-Ram said: I'm hearing Colin, no perhaps Constance, actually could be Conor. The feelings strong. Anyone know a Colin? You called? i-Ram and nogbad van 50 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteroseram Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 I still think I'd rather have Cashin and Davies as our CBs (assuming we're playing a back 4). It'd be a real shame if players like Cashin and Thompson dropped to not getting much of a look in IslandExile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 15 hours ago, Boycie said: I had an appointment with her scheduled for Friday. It's been cancelled due to unforseen circumstances. Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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