Mostyn6 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 43 minutes ago, Woodypecker said: 'Mel wasn't sincere, wasn't heartfelt enough, wasn't honest' - Wayne's comments about MM's meeting with him this week. It seems MM spoke to them all for 45 minutes, but WR says we need to 'put him behind us....' If these two snippets are true, my estimation of Wayne Rooney has rocketed through the roof. Much more switched on than I could have ever imagined. Rammy03 and Miggins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sparkle said: He is absolutely correct - a disaster for the league - but we can concentrate on the cup ? He is correct but i'd rather all point deductions be applied this season than split into next year too RadioactiveWaste and Chester40 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 47 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: Feels like a 100 years have passed since then. I'm celebrating my 167th birthday next week! Youngster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sparkle said: If it is true that the EFL knew we had changed the way we did the amortisation change and accepted it which was legal then all the common sense would suggest any point deductions related to that should be a suspended point deduction to not do it again? And in all probability that’s all it should ever had been. There is an opportunity for the EFL to call it a day. That's certainly the DCFC viewpoint. Given the political situation and at least one breach of £4m in the reatated accounts I would be very surprised if we don't get clobbered with a hefty deduction because it's the EFL. Sparkle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: He is correct but i'd rather all point deductions be applied this season than split into next year too They have no reason to separate them into another season RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggins Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Wayne has set the team a challenge to make history by staying up. Evidently no team in our position has done this before but it is just about possible. The hairs stood up on the back of neck when he said that he was willing to fight for this club and talked about how he felt for the players and all the Pride Park staff and how broken hearted he would be to see any of them lose their job. He has been helping out financially purchasing equipment that is needed in training but I think he was very reluctant to dwell on the subject and embarrassed it had been mentioned. I just can't get my head round the fact that MM hasn't spoken to him since 9th. August - not even a phone call. He was asked if he was upset not to receive an apology from MM but he said mm didn't need to apologise to him but said that he thought his behaviour was 'disrespectful, if I'm honest' and that he was 'a little bit disappointed'. Talk about restraint! Zag zig, RadioactiveWaste, RoyMac5 and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Was it is just me who's big takeaway from watching the conference was how weird it was when Mr Jackson called Mr Hosking, 'Andy '? Never seen a guy look less like an Andy. Made the reference to 'Mr Rooney' seem totally normal in comparison. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Sparkle said: They have no reason to separate them into another season When has that ever stopped them? Plus hearing a manager saying he may use youth players which will bring the league into disrepute maybe be enough of a reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 So glad he is staying. A credit to the club. Thanks Wayne. Eddie, RoyMac5 and Miggins 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Wayne Rooney is a credit to this Club. I was pretty anti-Rooney, up until probably the middle of this summer. I couldn't understand why, with our problems, he still wanted to be here. And I was annoyed that without our problems, Mel probably would have pulled the trigger long before the crunch-match against Sheffield Wednesday. However, as more and more has come out about what has been happening behind the scenes, the better Rooney is coming out of this. People will point to his win-record and say X amount of wins in X amount of games, but right now I don't think that matters. He has completely the right attitude, personality and resolve that we need the manager of this Club to have right now. There is no guarantee any other manager with a proven track record would get anything more out of this team, and the players clearly want to fight for him. It's ironic that this might be one of the most united squads and coaching team we've had during Mel's tenure, given everything going on around it. Whatever happens, Rooney should always be held in high regard by Derby County, he's a credit to himself and everybody else involved. Andicis, DanS1992, Miggins and 8 others 8 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Mel at home listening to Radio Derby. mike93rh, JoetheRam, Crewton and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: He is correct but i'd rather all point deductions be applied this season than split into next year too But if it was 12 this season and say 9 next season we could still potentially stay up for two consecutive seasons with those punishments. They won't be noteworthy seasons as a result, but we could maintain championship status and the income that it brings. ColonelBlimp and Miggins 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 7 hours ago, GenBr said: Was it Doncaster who had to get rid of their stadium cos it kept sending them into administration? We probably couldnt afford pride park if we go too far down the pyramid (although we dont own it anyway) Darlington. Built a new 25k seater stadium and only managed to get 2k fans in the ground... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 45 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: My worry with what Rooney has said is that he will plan for League 1 if we get more points deductions, which makes sense, but he also said the EFL wont want that as it may discredit the rest of the Championship season - this may put off the EFL issuing us the additional point deductions this season and may wait until next season This is a super bad idea as it will leave us open to more points deductions see EFL regulation 24 24 Requirement to Play Full Strength Sides in League Matches 24.1 Each Club shall play its full strength in all Matches played under the auspices of The League unless some satisfactory reason is given. In the event of the explanation not being deemed satisfactory the Board shall refer the matter to a Disciplinary Commission which has the power to impose such penalties as it shall think fit. Guidance From the fourth Thursday in March, any team sheet for a League game should include at least 10 outfield players who featured on the team sheet for the League game before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: That's certainly the DCFC viewpoint. Given the political situation and at least one breach of £4m in the reatated accounts I would be very surprised if we don't get clobbered with a hefty deduction because it's the EFL. We have already been punished for overspending … a 12 point deduction and administration. Anything more is double counting… and Efl criticise us for our poor accounting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Charlotte Ram said: Guidance From the fourth Thursday in March, any team sheet for a League game should include at least 10 outfield players who featured on the team sheet for the League game before. Additional EFL guidance for Championship teams with a stadium in the DE postcode area: All outfield players will have their bootlaces tied together whilst on the field of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: We have already been punished for overspending … a 12 point deduction and administration. Anything more is double counting… and Efl criticise us for our poor accounting! Two separate issues. Insolvency is one, P&S issues a different thing. Yes, both linked to overspend but if you shot a guy whilst robbing a bank you'd be charged with both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Wasn't one of the criticisms of MM that he was too hands on and should have someone else running the club ie a CEO? If so, why are people bow criticising him for not speaking to Rooney? Surely this should be done by Pearce? atherstoneram, RoyMac5 and i-Ram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 A bulldog spirit in our Gathering Storm and our Darkest Hour. Wayne Rooney's leadership so far has been quite Churchillian. Cometh the hour, cometh the man. In the face of adversity, some good emerges. He deserves to succeed at the end of all of this. Whatever happens, I think we will always be grateful for his conduct throughout this crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 50 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: He is correct but i'd rather all point deductions be applied this season than split into next year too Why would the EFL have reason to do that? The new owners will ask the same question of the EFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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