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  1. The clubs - us and Wednesday - would fight any sanctions with swarms of lawyers as both believe they've done nothing wrong. It seems they've both taken the same loophole, albeit Wednesday somewhat less professionally than ours, so it is a huge headache for the EFL. Imagine if they take enough points off us to relegate us and we can't play enough games. How would the PPG work - I'm assuming we would be awarded the PPG value for the games we've played then deducted points for any infraction. I believe when I worked it out (based on a 15 point deduction) it would leave us on the same points as Charlton, but obviously with a better goal difference. It still begs the question: how many teams are going to go to court next season because they've fell under the PPF (P&S) regulations?? You may say 'well, surely they will defer the rules' but they possibly can't when teams who still have kept their neck above water, i.e. Cardiff, due to parachute payments then sue the league for not enforcing their own rules. You potentially have half the league with point deductions, possibly some paying fines with money they don't have, which opens the wound for clubs to die. This league is going to be a farce for the next couple years. Teams struggling to survive whilst the governing body continues to pile on those teams who really, desperately, need investment. Football is going to be secondary to financial talk and legal battles for a while, unfortunately.
  2. Free would still be free, perhaps a lot more in wages though. Rasiak was a Polish international, so would’ve cost a fair bit. Idiakez in his two seasons prior to coming to us played in two teams that were relegated from the second division in Spain to the third. I can’t imagine he would be on mega money. Reich was a unused player in a Germany’s best team at the time. Bisgaard was on the downturn of his career. Smith was always a consistent performer at Watford and Sunderland, not outstanding, but he managed to keep in the top two divisions for a while. I think he had a few cracks at the Premier League but couldn’t ever stick.
  3. The Premier League provides a platform for all their teams to grow, plus they give out £100s of millions in handouts to football league clubs because they want to ensure the financial security for teams across all divisions. The Premier League is a great organisation. The Football League, on the other hand, wanted to financially punish a team and dock them points, so let a third party investigation see if they were in fact guilt and after they ruled they wasn’t THEN went to court to appeal the decision. I mean.. the football league has created a platform where football is secondary to finances. It gives teams vastly different ceilings to work under and has suffocated any potential investment away from the league. It’s perhaps the most incompetent governing body of any sports league in the entire world, perhaps one of the most incompetent organisations in the entire world in any industry. They have absolutely suffocated my enjoyment for the game.
  4. Absolutely with you on this, 100%! The big clubs are typically the clubs who were successful at significant flashpoints in history, i.e. when live football began to be televised nationally regularly (early-mid 80s) and then early throughout the Premier League era. Derby haven't really been relevant in the Premier League era - we were in the second division when it first started and we've only spent 7 years in it, out of a possible 28. Wigan have been more relevant during the Premier League era, and possibly will be seen as some as a similar size club to us now, especially as they have a FA Cup in recent memory. Very, very few people are becoming Derby County fans outside of Derby at the moment and Derby is only a small city - it's a passionate football city but it's still a small city.
  5. Very interesting. Although, it's not surprising. I would like to think we're not in trouble, but we're chasing an American billionaire for 'investment' which was later described as a financial loan so the warning signs are there. We will see when this all falls out, I guess, but we seem to be one of the more high risk clubs in football.
  6. It's not surprising. The fines and point deductions next season are going to be crazy considering how many teams are going to have broken FFP in light of the virus.
  7. Absolutely, I agree with everything you put but the profit and loss does need to be accounted for and managed going forward. The Championship is a poverty league in comparison to the Premier League, we can't get around that, plus the EFL have put financial restrictions on clubs to keep their house in order - which now dominates focus in the Championship. Despite everything going on, we've had Barnsley in the last couple of days vowing to sue the EFL if we aren't handed a big point deduction; we're 17 points ahead of them so I would imagine they are pushing for the maximum 21 points? I don't know, that's football in the second tier now and it's not going to get any better. The current parachute payment is £40m in the first year, per club, and that's in effect a hand-out from the Premier League to ensure clubs don't go bust overnight. If you take someone like Preston who have a turnover of £13m in the Championship in 17/18, with no parachute payments, then compare to a similar size club, albeit in the Premier League, in Bournemouth who had a turnover of £177m you can see that the being in the Premier League is worth roughly £160m. I think it was worked out to be £180m going into the 19-20 season, which was certainly the number thrown around during the play-off game. I would guess that the Premier League will have to increase the size of their handouts going forward, which means a much more unlevel playing field in the Championship - you could potentially see teams with a £100+m wage budgets and/or £100m head start. I think Villa had a wage bill of £71m and were in the last year of parachute payments? I know the league made a combine loss of £307m in 17-18. I guess it's down to teams to run their own ship accordingly, but we will have to see what the overall effect of the virus is: we will no doubt be losing some football league clubs over the course of the next 12 months, perhaps even a Championship club or two. We have even had talk of every Championship club filing for administration. I personally think it needs to be addressed, I know you said we would lose the excitement of promotion and relegation, I do completely understand that, but equally football at this level is almost second to financial discussions and potential point deductions. We will be in the thick of both going forward.
  8. I have recently been going over the idea of a closed Premier League in my head. The U23 [Premier League 2] set the format years ago when they separated from the Professional Development League based on criteria in order to qualify as a category 1 academy. I guess the question is when, not if, they propose a similar set up at senior level? The virus has certainly done its part to accelerate the reality of the situation, but no one was naive to think it was all hunky dory as talk of FFP or P&S regulations dominate chatter on the terrace, on the forums and has almost become as big a side show as the football itself. Before you bite my head off, let's just run through the current situation: the Premier League has the potential to be the highest earning revenue sports league in the world, consider the well documented numbers from 2015 when Man Utd v Liverpool pulled a TV crowd of around 700m viewers and the Super Bowl that same year has a little over 100m viewers. The NFL as a league turns over nearly three times the amount in revenue, which with a little more consideration the Premier League could easily achieve. If they ever did set up a Premier League-flix, they would really ascend their revenue to untold amounts. The Football League in comparison is nowhere near that, so when teams get relegated now with huge parachute payments they have a huge advantage - that is only going to grow. The problem is that the 'market value' of a Championship player then becomes a gray area. Realistically, based on the average income of the league, the market value of a top player should be £20k-a-week. Nevertheless, when it comes to seeing under-performing high earners at this level sitting on £60-70k a week then you better believe those figures go up. Teams could theoretically spend £100-120m on wages in the Premier League live within their means, have a few bad injuries and then get relegated. A wage cap, which is now being discussed, means what for them? They would in effect have to release players due to their wages. What about the players contract? It absolutely makes no sense. The idea of a closed Premier League absolutely wouldn't mean unnecessary hording of players either, I would propose strict squad limits, none of this U23 players don't need to be registered BS. I would suggest that each Premier League club has 30 squad places, plus an injured/reserve section similarly to the one used in the NFL. It means that if you have a long-term injury then you can promote one of your U23 players to a senior place, otherwise only players in the senior squad may play first team games. Easy. If you want to get rid of a player to bring someone else in, pay up their contract to release them and they're free to move on. It really is that simple. The investment would mean that the standard of the league can increase too, it would mean genuine world class players wouldn't have a choice of four or five clubs as it becomes more competitive and it creates more landing spots for top players. FFP keeps a hierarchy in place where team A can spend 300m on wages and be fine, but another could be breaking the rules with less than half that. I would impose a wage cap of lets say £300m a club and teams are allowed to spend anything they want below that on their team. As per the U23 format, if an owner/team isn't doing their part then it becomes a commercial decision to replace them in the league, although I have no doubt this format would only bring out the richest people on the planet as it would be by all accounts the most profitable sports league in the world. The NFL has the 89% rule where each team has to spend at least 89% of their cap to keep it as competitive as possible. It would be absolutely possible to do that in the UK. Now, as for those 'left behind': who would really care? In my scenario, Premier League clubs would have strict squad restrictions so wouldn't be hording players. The quality of football at this level wouldn't suffer as the majority would be the same players. The cut off between the Championship and Premier League means that you simply won't get teams in the Championship with a huge wage bill, with a significant head start and teams wouldn't over stretch themselves to keep their best player as the 'market value' would be a lot more distinguishable. If a EFL club develops a player who is truly good enough for the next level, it would mean the restriction on squad places and demand would also increase any transfer fee quite substantially. Teams in the football league wouldn't have such an income disparity, wage disparity and it could quite easily be run sensibly between the three divisions. The EFL by sheer volume puts more bums on seats than the Premier League does, so providing its not run by idiots could see this rebranding as a method of increasing their income. It certainly wouldn't become a forgotten entity - it wouldn't have the international pull but it would certainly be a mainstay in the UK. I know the only issue would be who would fall on which side of the line, plus who would get to decide? The difference between owning a Premier League club and a Football League club in the above scenario is incredibly significant. Nevertheless, I don't see how any other alternative works: while there are teams being relegated from the Premier League to the Championship with huge wage bills and while the pot of gold for promotion remains a teasing prospect, clubs and players will blur the lines to what the true market value of a Championship player is worth and therefore will continue to run at eye-watering losses.
  9. A wage cap works to level the playing field, but what happens when teams get relegated with a £100m wage budget? It just creates more problems, especially as the Premier League continues to grow at a substantial rate. It only makes it worse. You would have kids playing in the u23 on more than the top earner in the Championship, in fact it wouldn’t even be close. Close the Premier League up and focus the football league into a national league. It really is the most sensible option. You could then bring in all the financial restrictions you could possibly want as there would be a clear divide between the Premier League and the Football League.
  10. It can’t be easy for them at the moment and the situation with the EFL lingers on like a bad smell. What I would say is that despite football returning at some point, it’s going to be poo show when it does. 80% of clubs will undoubtedly break FFP in the championship, so that will be whatever anyone talks about. Games behind closed doors, excessive testing, games postponed at a moments notice and legal battles. Football is dead, Ffptball is born. To consider that people are demanding: 19/20 season end 20/21 season Euros 21/22 season World Cup 22/23 season I am no expert, but surely that’s not possible. In the most ideal situation that would be difficult, nevermind now. The financial ramifications are large, football at this level will need 100s of millions of investment which the football league has actively pursued (seemingly) to avoid with more red tape than the North Pole at Christmas. Football will return, of course, but let’s not kid ourselves, it won’t be the same for an extremely long time.
  11. Nigel Clough wasn't a hugely impressive scout, in terms of having a talent for spotting a player, but he was incredibly thorough in doing his background research. He wanted a certain type of player and in fairness he landed some good ones. It's not like he signed players that went on to much better things though, I believe there was only one who came to Derby and left to play in the Premier League in six and a half years - Jason Shackell - and its not like he had a prolonged stay at that level. Most players he signed had their best years under him, which is credit to him as a manager more than anything, but it certainly seemed to me that we limited ourselves. I don't know, I guess people have their own opinions about that.
  12. I honestly thought that was a clever play on words for FFP and Football then, rather than a mistype. FFPtball is what I think the EFL have got the majority of the clubs at this level playing, certainly seems to be one of the main talking points. I like it.
  13. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Bogle initially a winger anyway? He's been changed into a full back and seems more comfortable there. He's a decent enough defender, so I don't really have a problem with it. What I would say is that he will definitely be sold when the transfer window opens anyway, no doubt about it. Right back is a position we're comfortable in and we're hemorrhaging money. Bogle will be shipped out as he'll gauge interest. He will get a bigger fee than Wisdom, plus we have Ebosele coming through.
  14. I've just done a thorough search in a dutch google proxy and he's been named in the same breath as us on very few occasions, all of them mentioning us as we've signed another Eredivisie player out of contract in Mike te Wierik. No link to us whatsoever in Holland or England, I can confirm.
  15. People can get so sensitive about things like this, it's crazy. It's most obviously a joke due to being loaned out between friends who are probably Derby fans in his friendship group. I know why this got the time of day, but if you think that this in real terms absolutely anything at all then don't be so soft. I've moved workplaces in the past and made comments in jest, it really doesn't mean anything.
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