Miggins Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I think that everyone at the club is doing their utmost at the moment to ensure our survival in this league. I think the players and Wayne couldn't be trying harder to combat the off-field issues which had the potential to destroy our club and I am proud of their fighting spirit. Like all of us I'm hoping for a successful take over and the return of Beilik which could make all the difference to our final position in the league. The problems Wayne and the team face are not of their making but as long as they continue to show such loyalty and fight for our club and give us a fighting chance to remain in this division we can't ask more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Can anyone remember when Wayne and co got good news with regards to the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggins Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Anag Ram said: Can anyone remember when Wayne and co got good news with regards to the club? Generally speaking only bad news sells media wise. Which is a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: Can anyone remember when Wayne and co got good news with regards to the club? Hmm good question. Back in 2016? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 hours ago, nottingram said: The “it’s not like we’re creating chances” line is a little simplistic though when often you need the striker to have that instinct, to be able to create the chances for them, if that makes sense? CKR has been back 5 minutes and has already missed 3 good to very good chances mostly because he has the instinct of where to be. To an extent that's true, you do need strikers to make those runs and give players the options to create chances and I'd be more inclined to take that approach if we'd previously shown good attacking potential under Rooney. However, this has been a consistent problem for him before we had CKR out injured following Peterborough. Indeed, even during the Blackburn game with both baldock and CKR on the pitch we only created openings in the first 10 mins before they adapted to the change and the final 5 or 6 minutes when we had no choice but to swamp their box. May Contain Nuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: Hmm good question. Back in 2016? It was still offside even today - Derby never get those helpful decisions RadioactiveWaste, jimtastic56 and Reggie Greenwood 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbydaz22 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 01/11/2021 at 18:41, RoyMac5 said: On 01/11/2021 at 18:20, derbydaz22 said: Perhaps it's not fair on Stretton, we've seen what a struggle it can be for youngsters last season. Baldock has the experience and will deal better with being berated if things don't go right. No mention of playing together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Very unpopular opinion and can hardly believe I'm saying it... But I would get the points deduction sorted, get new owners in and hope they say 'Thanks for steadying the ship Wayne' and give Neil Warnock the job to keep us up, with a huge retirement bonus if he does. He has proved he can have a big impact in the past and whilst he wouldn't stick around, I don't see Wayne happily toiling away in League 1, surely easier for him to blame us for being a basket case and hope someone gives him another chance elsewhere. Plus, I have no confidence he would have the skills to get us out of that League anyway. Jourdan, mwram1973, Carnero and 1 other 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chester40 said: Very unpopular opinion and can hardly believe I'm saying it... But I would get the points deduction sorted, get new owners in and hope they say 'Thanks for steadying the ship Wayne' and give Neil Warnock the job to keep us up, with a huge retirement bonus if he does. He has proved he can have a big impact in the past and whilst he wouldn't stick around, I don't see Wayne happily toiling away in League 1, surely easier for him to blame us for being a basket case and hope someone gives him another chance elsewhere. Plus, I have no confidence he would have the skills to get us out of that League anyway. Agree with the idea of a fresh start, new ownership with their choice of Manager but don’t think Colin is the answer….. Jourdan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 17 minutes ago, Chester40 said: Very unpopular opinion and can hardly believe I'm saying it... But I would get the points deduction sorted, get new owners in and hope they say 'Thanks for steadying the ship Wayne' and give Neil Warnock the job to keep us up, with a huge retirement bonus if he does. He has proved he can have a big impact in the past and whilst he wouldn't stick around, I don't see Wayne happily toiling away in League 1, surely easier for him to blame us for being a basket case and hope someone gives him another chance elsewhere. Plus, I have no confidence he would have the skills to get us out of that League anyway. It would not please Gibson if we appointed colin. But there is no vacancy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 On 02/11/2021 at 15:08, Leeds Ram said: ... cognitive dissonance... On 02/11/2021 at 15:28, Tyler Durden said: Whatever it is, it'll no doubt involve regular and lengthy visits to the bathroom, and leaving the window open. Probably best not to ask! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taribo Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Chester40 said: Very unpopular opinion and can hardly believe I'm saying it... But I would get the points deduction sorted, get new owners in and hope they say 'Thanks for steadying the ship Wayne' and give Neil Warnock the job to keep us up, with a huge retirement bonus if he does. He has proved he can have a big impact in the past and whilst he wouldn't stick around, I don't see Wayne happily toiling away in League 1, surely easier for him to blame us for being a basket case and hope someone gives him another chance elsewhere. Plus, I have no confidence he would have the skills to get us out of that League anyway. EFL: "Here's your points deduction for overspending" DCFC: "Right, lets blow a load of wodge paying off Wayne, a big paycheck to entice Colin, and a massive retirement bonus" TheresOnlyWanChope, tinman, Kathcairns and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanny Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 doesnt the 32 red deal (that funds rooneys wages) finish at the end of the season? will time nicely if we end up getting relegated and no pay off needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Once the new owner is in place, first job give Rooney a new contract, show him the love, clean slate and bounce back next year. Right now we need some good news, this would be it. The players would appreciate this as well, we don't need the added uncertainty of will he or won't he go leaving them questioning their own futures. Norman, RoyMac5, Kathcairns and 5 others 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, David said: Once the new owner is in place, first job give Rooney a new contract, show him the love, clean slate and bounce back next year. Right now we need some good news, this would be it. The players would appreciate this as well, we don't need the added uncertainty of will he or won't he go leaving them questioning their own futures. A new contract? Shouldn’t that be earned? Rooney has a year and a half on his deal. There is no need to offer him a new one, unless he achieves something exceptional. Like survival against the odds, for example. If we do get relegated to League 1, the owners have to seriously consider if Rooney is capable of moving us forward. Stability for the sake of stability helps no-one. If there is someone they consider to be better equipped to do that, they would be foolish to put all of their eggs in the Rooney basket. It is an unforgiving league, one Rooney will likely have little to no knowledge of. We see big clubs struggle to get to grips with it very often. There would be an added incentive for teams too, a target on our backs, of course. Rooney’s Derby and so on. Do we really need the circus? The distractions? Do we need someone at the helm who has to find his feet and learn quickly? It would be a big risk to stick with Rooney. Edited November 10, 2021 by Jourdan Chester40 and Jimbo Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jourdan said: A new contract? Shouldn’t that be earned? Rooney has a year and a half on his deal. There is no need to offer him a new one, unless he achieves something exceptional. Like survival against the odds, for example. If we do get relegated to League 1, the owners have to seriously consider if Rooney is capable of moving us forward. Stability for the sake of stability helps no-one. If there is someone they consider to be better equipped to do that, they would be foolish to put all of their eggs in the Rooney basket. It is an unforgiving league, one Rooney will likely have little to no knowledge of. We see big clubs struggle to get to grips with it very often. There would be an added incentive for teams too, a target on our backs, of course. Rooney’s Derby and so on. Do we really need the circus? The distractions? Do we need someone at the helm who has to find his feet and learn quickly? It would be a big risk to stick with Rooney. It has been earned and no we don't need a circus or distractions, what that has to do with Rooney I don't know. Any managerial appointment is a risk, there's less risk in sticking with what you have and the players are on board with. Rooney has instilled a fighting spirit this season, something we will desperately need next season. Would have been so easy to walk away and hold his head up high, but he stuck with us, incredible really given the circumstances. Can't think of anyone I would rather have lead us into next season. Hopefully he still has the hunger for it. angieram, Kathcairns, RoyMac5 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jourdan said: A new contract? Shouldn’t that be earned? Rooney has a year and a half on his deal. There is no need to offer him a new one, unless he achieves something exceptional. Like survival against the odds, for example. If we do get relegated to League 1, the owners have to seriously consider if Rooney is capable of moving us forward. Stability for the sake of stability helps no-one. If there is someone they consider to be better equipped to do that, they would be foolish to put all of their eggs in the Rooney basket. It is an unforgiving league, one Rooney will likely have little to no knowledge of. We see big clubs struggle to get to grips with it very often. There would be an added incentive for teams too, a target on our backs, of course. Rooney’s Derby and so on. Do we really need the circus? The distractions? Do we need someone at the helm who has to find his feet and learn quickly? It would be a big risk to stick with Rooney. oh come on. stability for the sake of stability? do you realise what a good job rooney has done here? Not only did he keep us up he has us a mid table side with a squad that has barely enough quality to compete in league one. people are utterly mad if they think somebody can come in and do a better job than rooney under the circumstances. for me he should be top of the to do list when a takeover happens of extending his deal and backing him properly. Starting this season we had no hope at all, for months rooney has had us believing we can actually stay up even with a point deduction and no players. RedSox, cosmic, Yani P and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 just to touch on it again it can't be understated how important it was rooney keeping us up last season. If we had gone down on that day we would be facing these deductions in league one and probably looking at league two next season and then who was going to inherit the debts we have in the english 4th division? That Sheff W game could go down as the most important in our history, and rooney was the manager that day and for me he will always be remembered for that and should be rewarded when the club finally has some stability off the pitch Kathcairns, Abu Derby, Ramifications and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Hopefully Rooney still has the passion and motivation to carry on. If he leaves it will be a devastating blow to the football club in my opinion. I hope he stays with us and brings this club back to where it belongs. He would be a legend. Day, Kathcairns and RoyMac5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 39 minutes ago, David said: The players would appreciate this as well, we don't need the added uncertainty of will he or won't he go leaving them questioning their own futures. Pretty moot point as what players will we have by the end of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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