England Ram Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, derbydaz22 said: Not sure what Stretton has done wrong he certainly offers more than Baldock. I’d disagree. Stretton is neither a Baldock or Richard’s and is one of those inbetween type strikers who needs to be prolific at his job. He doesn’t offer the ball threat over the top or closing down that Baldock does because he has no pace. He doesn’t offer the hold up or nod on threat that Colin does because he gets knocked off the ball really easily and has a poor first touch. Sadly in his inbetween role he plays he’s not even slightly prolific and relatively ineffective for our front line. Not that the front 4 who started today were any better, but I’d say Baldock is the better forward out of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 35 minutes ago, derbydaz22 said: Not sure what Stretton has done wrong he certainly offers more than Baldock. Oh come on. One is an experienced striker signed for peanuts because he's going through a poor spell. The other is an inexperienced young striker who needs more leeway than we can give him in our situation. EtoileSportiveDeDerby and Crewton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 16 hours ago, 24Charlie said: Look at Forest. Total pump til a new manager comes in. All of a sudden the same team are a different team. This phenomenon happens quite a lot. There were boos a half time, patience is on the wane. People are starting to remove the rose tinted specs to look at the stats and to be perfectly honest they are pretty bad. We need a win. "People" need a smack in the face from harsh reality. We're not in the position to make sweeping changes, and in January we could have fewer options if we're forced into a fire sale. Some of the criticism, after the first truly poor performance since Peterborough, is well OTT. And as for the idea that we can consider changing managers at this moment in time ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 15 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Oh come on. One is an experienced striker signed for peanuts because he's going through a poor spell. The other is an inexperienced young striker who needs more leeway than we can give him in our situation. Baldock may be an experienced striker going through a poor spell but, are we any better placed to carry him than an inexperienced youngster? Other than one game (forget which it was now when he did a decent job of harassing the defenders) I don’t really remember Baldock contributing a great deal this season. derbydaz22, angieram, r_wilcockson and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Unless Wayne comes out in the next 30 minutes and denies any interest in the spurs job, he can sod off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Time Lurker Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 On 30/10/2021 at 20:08, England Ram said: Stretton is neither a Baldock or Richard’s and is one of those inbetween type strikers who needs to be prolific at his job. He doesn’t offer the ball threat over the top or closing down that Baldock does because he has no pace. He doesn’t offer the hold up or nod on threat that Colin does because he gets knocked off the ball really easily and has a poor first touch. That's funny, I've seen quite a lot of a lad called Jack Stretton in the u23s, and he is both pretty quick and has a decent first touch. He is certainly up to mixing it with the opposition defenders physically. Perhaps we've got two of them at the club......... angieram, Rev, Miggins and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 39 minutes ago, Long Time Lurker said: That's funny, I've seen quite a lot of a lad called Jack Stretton in the u23s, and he is both pretty quick and has a decent first touch. He is certainly up to mixing it with the opposition defenders physically. Perhaps we've got two of them at the club......... Perhaps there's a reason why Rooney is letting Stretton play back with the U23s. I see he scored on Saturday. https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2021/10/stretton-on-target-as-under-23s-fall-to-defeat-at-liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBrian Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Pele won his first World Cup aged 17, if Stretton is going to be good enough at Championship level he needs to start in a few matches and play to his strengths for we do need goals, would play Sibley alongside him as they played in the under 23s together. The other ex under 23s are performing well by having a good run in the side, having said all this Wayne knows far more than me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 I had an convo with another fan who was annoyed at Wayne because we weren't winning enough games, stated he was disappointed we didn't get a goal scorer and he insinuated it was the managements fault. When I asked which proven striker he would have signed for 3.5k a week he had no answer. RoyMac5 and Day 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, SirBrian said: Pele won his first World Cup aged 17, if Stretton is going to be good enough at Championship level he needs to start in a few matches and play to his strengths for we do need goals, would play Sibley alongside him as they played in the under 23s together. The other ex under 23s are performing well by having a good run in the side, having said all this Wayne knows far more than me! Have you actually just compared one of our players to a young Pele? And found him lacking in comparison? ThePrisoner, Tamworthram, Comrade 86 and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, GboroRam said: Have you actually just compared one of our players to a young Pele? And found him lacking in comparison? Sell him quick !!!! jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, GboroRam said: Have you actually just compared one of our players to a young Pele? And found him lacking in comparison? Yeah boo Stretton!! You're not even as good as Pele ? I think Stretton is certainly worth picking ahead of Baldock (and Sibley). Miggins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 I think Baldock should be on his way in January ..maybe he is trying to get Stretton firing in the 23s then unleash the beast.. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Yani P said: I think Baldock should be on his way in January ..maybe he is trying to get Stretton firing in the 23s then unleash the beast.. Akinfenwa plays for Wycombe though.? Yani P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 5 hours ago, SirBrian said: Pele won his first World Cup aged 17, if Stretton is going to be good enough at Championship level he needs to start in a few matches and play to his strengths for we do need goals, would play Sibley alongside him as they played in the under 23s together. The other ex under 23s are performing well by having a good run in the side, having said all this Wayne knows far more than me! that's an incredibly lightweight front 2, especially for the championship. Can't see that working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 On 30/10/2021 at 19:26, 24Charlie said: Look at Forest. Total pump til a new manager comes in. All of a sudden the same team are a different team. This phenomenon happens quite a lot. There were boos a half time, patience is on the wane. People are starting to remove the rose tinted specs to look at the stats and to be perfectly honest they are pretty bad. i think that time has been and gone im afraid. The position we're in now means we are stuck with Wayne till the end. Weather thats staying up or getting relegated, there's no changing now. kevinhectoring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbydaz22 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 On 30/10/2021 at 20:28, RoyMac5 said: Oh come on. One is an experienced striker signed for peanuts because he's going through a poor spell. The other is an inexperienced young striker who needs more leeway than we can give him in our situation. I would much sooner give Stretton game time from what I’ve seen of the two this season Ramarena 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 4 hours ago, GboroRam said: Have you actually just compared one of our players to a young Pele? And found him lacking in comparison? Two white Pele's. We've got the two white Pele's... or... I saw my mate, the other day, He said that he'd just seen two Pele's. So I asked "Have you banged your brain?" "No, they go by the names of Jack and Wayne". Jack & Wayne... etc, etc... Miggins, angieram, uttoxram75 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, derbydaz22 said: I would much sooner give Stretton game time from what I’ve seen of the two this season Perhaps it's not fair on Stretton, we've seen what a struggle it can be for youngsters last season. Baldock has the experience and will deal better with being berated if things don't go right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 On 30/10/2021 at 20:08, England Ram said: I’d disagree. Stretton is neither a Baldock or Richard’s and is one of those inbetween type strikers who needs to be prolific at his job. He doesn’t offer the ball threat over the top or closing down that Baldock does because he has no pace. He doesn’t offer the hold up or nod on threat that Colin does because he gets knocked off the ball really easily and has a poor first touch. Baldock has no pace either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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