Ramarena Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 37 minutes ago, TomTom92 said: The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince the EFL he didn’t want to be an owner. Keyser Morris Comrade 86, europia and TomTom92 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 The mystery bidder is either Kirchner returning to the fight (having now visited Preston and realised that Derby at any price would be a bargain compared to having to spend time up there) or Gibson as a result of his accord with Morris meaning he has to abandon Boro and dance to Mel’s tune….#(not)ITK angieram, Rammy03, r_wilcockson and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 So three bids in, a fourth bid if Appleby can get in by the cut off. None of the bids meet the requirements to avoid -15 points supposedly, either that’s EFL speculative baalocks and Q will come in with £50m next week and say duck you and -15 points suckers, or, and more likely, Mel (remembering he has only had the clubs interests at heart throughout all this) won’t budge on £20m for the stadium - Bamford. Explains why this has dragged on, Q trying desperately to bump the bids up but people are only prepared to pay so much. £50m is just too much for a League one club (effectively), pay that then in the event you don’t get the club back to the premier league (which is a difficult task - we’ve tried for the past 15 years) you would struggle to break even at at that price - you wouldn’t do it unless you were a fan who had the money. This isn’t on the bidders at all, whoever gets it deserves our support, any further sanctions we get are all on Mel. Which leads me to my final point, with the swear filter can we change Bamford to Morris? May Contain Nuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, 86 Hair Islands said: I'm afraid there are currently two stakeholders who comprise the biggest inhibitor and neither is Quantuma. Morris claimed he'd sell the club to the right person for £1.00. I'd say that the differential between that false claim and his current £20M valuation for the stadium alone leaves significant latitude for compromise. He could settle this tomorrow by reducing the cost of the stadium. That's unequivocal. He has the means and the wherewithal and yet still he does nothing. As it is, it appears he's effectively used the admins to run a closed bid auction at zero cost to him and probably secured the highest figure he could have realistically hoped for in the process. A cunning stunt. COYR He certainly is !!!..................Oh sorry misread that ? Jimbo Ram, Comrade 86 and europia 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 So it’s Gadsby, MDS, Mike Horton or Appleby. That’s my take on it. Derby4Me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, RipleyRich said: If the choice was that or liquidation? I'd take anything over liquidation. We all would. But in reality we'd never be faced with that choice as there are other bids at the table including King of the Gazump, Mike Ashley I also suspect HMRC would play hardball were Morris via MSD to return (which I suspect they wouldn't with other buyers). They know he's tried to evade debts whilst still having the means & so they could threaten to wind DCFC up (i.e liquidate) if he didnt pay them much more pence in the pound. Edited March 24, 2022 by LeedsCityRam jono and jimtastic56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, hintonsboots said: Do tell. Don’t hold your breath for a meaningful reply from @one_chop on this one. I reckon he’s just guessing. hintonsboots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, S8TY said: He certainly is !!!..................Oh sorry misread that ? Ah, not so much... ? jono and S8TY 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingpin Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 59 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Doesn’t seem to have the money though Which could be a small snag ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, one_chop said: There's no guarantee a preferred bidder would complete a takeover so don't start popping the pomagne corks just yet. Also the mystery third bidder is going to disappoint a few people. Alonso? Fake sheikh? Gibson? Edited March 24, 2022 by TheresOnlyWanChope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsmini Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Where has the talk of Morris being part of a group trying to buy the club come from. ??? it’s all over twitter so it must be right. I personally think we will see Andy Appleby back at the helm of the club he loved. With someone behind him, possibly Dell. They are connected to MSD, but MSD could be restricted as they already put money into Burnley I believe. The other option is the Binnie family have come back with a bigger offer. only time will tell of course Ram1988, Rammy03 and jimtastic56 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM1966 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 hours ago, RipleyRich said: What if if it is MM/MSD? Take their money out and there ain't a lot left to pay for the club. EFL have already confirmed that MM would not be barred from ownership. Buy it out of administration, debts gone, put it up for sale as soon as promotion back to the Championship is confirmed.........bingo! There is more chance of me winning the lottery than Morris reappearing. The fans we rip him to peices...... jimtastic56, Rammy03 and Derby4Me 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Or it could be someone with meger merger deep pockets from far east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, PistoldPete said: The article makes no sense. "Unless a substantial offer is made by Friday, which will pay off all Derby's debts, including nearly £30 million to HMRC and £20 million to American loan company MSD, Wayne Rooney and his squad will start next season with heavy sanctions imposed". There is no requirement for Derby to pay off al their debts to HMRC or to MSD in order to avoid sanctions from EFL. Difficult to say that definitively. I have been unable to find a copy of the EFL insolvency policy anywhere on-line. I have read journalists report that the rules are now aligned to legislation and that requires any settlement to be agreed by HMRC as the preferential creditor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, hintonsboots said: Do tell. Jeremey Keith. Abu Derby and hintonsboots 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Topram said: So wonder who the 3 are! ..............and if it aint Fun...Boy....Three. the 3 birds out of Bananarama............ Derby4Me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alty_Ram Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I wonder what sort of calculation bidders are doing. If its another 20million vs -15 points then that's a big deal to someone with less financial clout who may have to borrow to do it. Obviously for the Ashleys of this world that is fairly modest relatively speaking but he didn't get where is is today by chucking more cash than he needs to at things. If bids were anywhere near the threshold where we wouldn't cop for another penalty then surely someone must think that finding the cash to bridge the gap is still a good investment. If we're 10s of millions short then far less so. I appreciate that it is all speculation but there seems an awful lot about these rumours that rings true. Appleby would no doubt run us sensibly and prudently which would be a welcome relief but with owners of other clubs waving a magic wand and making 10s of millions of debt disappear then it might not be enough for some. For me 'sensible, prudent but competitive' sounds pretty good after the last couple of years but yet more points deductions skews that calculation slightly. We need investment badly to renew contracts and plug some gaping holes in the squad, largely just to stabilise things not claw back another good 15 point kicking for having the cheek to be abandoned in a total financial mess. r_wilcockson, jimtastic56, angieram and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Alty_Ram said: I wonder what sort of calculation bidders are doing. If its another 20million vs -15 points then that's a big deal to someone with less financial clout who may have to borrow to do it. Obviously for the Ashleys of this world that is fairly modest relatively speaking but he didn't get where is is today by chucking more cash than he needs to at things. If bids were anywhere near the threshold where we wouldn't cop for another penalty then surely someone must think that finding the cash to bridge the gap is still a good investment. If we're 10s of millions short then far less so. I appreciate that it is all speculation but there seems an awful lot about these rumours that rings true. Appleby would no doubt run us sensibly and prudently which would be a welcome relief but with owners of other clubs waving a magic wand and making 10s of millions of debt disappear then it might not be enough for some. For me 'sensible, prudent but competitive' sounds pretty good after the last couple of years but yet more points deductions skews that calculation slightly. We need investment badly to renew contracts and plug some gaping holes in the squad, largely just to stabilise things not claw back another good 15 point kicking for having the cheek to be abandoned in a total financial mess. I do think that who ever gets us show there bank card and then tax people mad and rest all paid in full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Its starting to get me down now. I don't know if I can cope with @Inverurie Ram posting Fun Boy Three videos. Enough is enough ffs. Rev, Comrade 86, Boycie and 4 others 1 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Millenniumram said: Another points deduction… Unlikely whilst you keep posting ? Millenniumram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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