tinman Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 The Ricketts family are no longer on the running to buy Chelsea. quick phone call from Appleby to Tom and away we go. Getting the band back together Dean (hick) Saunders and MackworthRamIsGod 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Just arrived at work, will check back before I go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipleyRich Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 8 hours ago, Alty_Ram said: I wonder what sort of calculation bidders are doing. If its another 20million vs -15 points then that's a big deal to someone with less financial clout who may have to borrow to do it. Obviously for the Ashleys of this world that is fairly modest relatively speaking but he didn't get where is is today by chucking more cash than he needs to at things. If bids were anywhere near the threshold where we wouldn't cop for another penalty then surely someone must think that finding the cash to bridge the gap is still a good investment. If we're 10s of millions short then far less so. I appreciate that it is all speculation but there seems an awful lot about these rumours that rings true. Appleby would no doubt run us sensibly and prudently which would be a welcome relief but with owners of other clubs waving a magic wand and making 10s of millions of debt disappear then it might not be enough for some. For me 'sensible, prudent but competitive' sounds pretty good after the last couple of years but yet more points deductions skews that calculation slightly. We need investment badly to renew contracts and plug some gaping holes in the squad, largely just to stabilise things not claw back another good 15 point kicking for having the cheek to be abandoned in a total financial mess. Someone could even be making a calculated decision as to how best use their funds. Pay an extra c£20m and start next season in L1 on 0 points but with limited funds to rebuild or Hang on to the £20m, take -15 points, but have the cash in the back pocket to rebuild the club and move forward. God knows. If it is to be -15points, then that`s a whole lot better than I was fearing. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted March 25, 2022 Author Share Posted March 25, 2022 Y’eard owt? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 6 hours ago, kevinhectoring said: Don’t think Q will tell us on Friday (today) who the new owners will be. They are going to tell the EFL and when EFL have approved them, we will be told. But hopefully they will at least confirm on Friday (today) that a PB has been appointed Isn't telling the EFL the same thing as telling us unofficially though with all the leaks? i-Ram, DavesaRam and PistoldPete 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM1966 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, RipleyRich said: Someone could even be making a calculated decision as to how best use their funds. Pay an extra c£20m and start next season in L1 on 0 points but with limited funds to rebuild or Hang on to the £20m, take -15 points, but have the cash in the back pocket to rebuild the club and move forward. God knows. If it is to be -15points, then that`s a whole lot better than I was fearing. Any monies paid will ALL go to creditors, starting with Quantuma who get paid first, then football creditors in full, then normal creditors whats left. There's effectively going to be 2 sums of money (bids) paid too. 1 for the club the other for the ground..... This gives Mel the opportunity to decide who he wants to take over the club too. The Administrators have to dance to Mels tune, because he holds all the cards, he owns the stadium and of course there are £130m in soft loans he has to write off. Q will not be choosing the PB, Mel will and his decision will centre around how much he's going to get from the ground. As for Q, they've told us several times we would have a PB in place, clearly that's all been bullshite as the deadline for final bids is today. Can't wait until we extract the Japanese knotweed (MM & Q) from our club! Edited March 25, 2022 by RAM1966 jimtastic56 and Gritstone Tup 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldben Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Factoring in a 15 point deduction next season, potentially with restrictions on purchasing players. Then Factoring in at least two seasons in League one, under above circumstances. Zero return on highly expensive investment in purchasing the club. Potentially doing a Leeds and taking 3 years to return to the Championship from league one, then trying to survive with almost zero budget for new players over that 3 year period, as spent available funds on purchasing the club. League one will see significantly lower return from attendances. I wonder what season tickets cost will be, clearly lower than championship season ticket prices so that will mean lower revenue for the club. Then if restrictions placed on what derby can spend on new players with over half the current team either leaving and many of those remaining not being good enough for league one. On the positive side, at least there will still be a club. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 5 hours ago, tinman said: The Ricketts family are no longer on the running to buy Chelsea. quick phone call from Appleby to Tom and away we go. Getting the band back together And here's me hoping there wouldn't be any last minute rickets.... i-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 7 hours ago, kevinhectoring said: Don’t think Q will tell us on Friday (today) who the new owners will be. They are going to tell the EFL and when EFL have approved them, we will be told. But hopefully they will at least confirm on Friday (today) that a PB has been appointed If Q tell the EFL who the PB is today, JP and DET will know ASAP. jimtastic56 and norwichram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Crewton said: And here's me hoping there wouldn't be any last minute rickets.... I know we are being starved of information but this is going too far. jimtastic56, Chester40 and Crewton 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 minute ago, i-Ram said: If Q tell the EFL who the PB is today, JP and DET will know ASAP. The DET will get their information from reading the newspapers or going online just like the rest of us. jimtastic56, rammieib, jono and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriggRam Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 We have been totally ducked over by the EFL and a curly haired duck.......and Mel Morris.. I don't believe it was in Mels intention, but it has ducked us, but I solely believe the EFL is the reason we are in our predicament, they have slaughtered us, and continue to do so, how the footballing world can continue to stand by and ignore the corruption and mismanagement is a Scur on our national game Carnero, Dordogne-Ram, Carl Sagan and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Tup Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, BriggRam said: We have been totally ducked over by the EFL and a curly haired duck.......and Mel Morris.. I don't believe it was in Mels intention, but it has ducked us, but I solely believe the EFL is the reason we are in our predicament, they have slaughtered us, and continue to do so, how the footballing world can continue to stand by and ignore the corruption and mismanagement is a Scur on our national game And still there’s someone who wants to think good of MM, ffs go seek counselling!! RAM1966, ramison, RipleyRich and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, BriggRam said: We have been totally ducked over by the EFL and a curly haired duck.......and Mel Morris.. I don't believe it was in Mels intention, but it has ducked us, but I solely believe the EFL is the reason we are in our predicament, they have slaughtered us, and continue to do so, how the footballing world can continue to stand by and ignore the corruption and mismanagement is a Scur on our national game Never ever forgive or forget what MM, efl and Gibson have done to us. jimtastic56 and GenBr 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM1966 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Gritstone Tup said: And still there’s someone who wants to think good of MM, ffs go seek counselling!! No - Morris ignored Boro and Wycombe, had he not have done so this would have been sorted long before. I suggest he badly advised Q to do the same.... Mel should of sued the EFL for continued dealays to the process. We all know he would have won, especially as they since had an official rule change..... Q cocked up there rolling over big time! Edited March 25, 2022 by RAM1966 RipleyRich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 13 hours ago, Wolfie20 said: If the EFL were a credible organisation then he'd fail miserably the Fit and Proper test but they're not so he might be, providing Gibson is happy with it. He would pass it as they have a 2 strike rule. However there must be a rule that an owner cannot rebuy his company DCFC as that would inefficient get rid of the debts he has run up. Also he would not be welcome. If he wants to do something put the stadium in a trust called Derby County Football Club or give it to the new owner jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 minute ago, RAM1966 said: No - Morris ignored Boro and Wycombe, had he not have done so this would have been sorted long before. I suggest he badly advised Q to do the same.... Mel should of sued the EFL for continued dealays to the process. We all know he would have won, especially as they since had an official rule change..... Q cocked up there rilling over big time! You are right, just because you think their claims are a pile of poo (and I still think they are) you still need to deal with it. The EFL are complicit in the delays but as a club, our leaders have not helped, for instance where are the accounts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM1966 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Just now, Woodley Ram said: You are right, just because you think their claims are a pile of poo (and I still think they are) you still need to deal with it. The EFL are complicit in the delays but as a club, our leaders have not helped, for instance where are the accounts I susoect a deal was done to park any further action from those seasons as we've accepted a punishment that cannot be appealed. The accounts should have been published though and until they are any new owner will still be under a transfer embargo. Maybe @David can ask when the accounts are going to be published as this must happen before the new owners complete surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 I have heard on the grapevine that we will announce the new owner as part of our centenary celebrations in 2084, apparently they are going to make a big show of it……the other thing I heard is that Q might own us due to the size of bill matching the asking price Ram1988, jimtastic56, Comrade 86 and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Woodley Ram said: I have heard on the grapevine that we will announce the new owner as part of our centenary celebrations in 2084, apparently they are going to make a big show of it……the other thing I heard is that Q might own us due to the size of bill matching the asking price We will have a 3,548 points deduction that season. David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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