oldtimeram Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I'd aim the chant at Morris. He's the scoundrel in all this. MuespachRam, jimtastic56, Leeds Ram and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakram Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Its all down to Morris and his mate really trying to pull a flanker before realising he couldnt and then just walking away and leaving us in the lurch, EFL just applying the rules so dont see any point in a protest myself. Time to move on. You dont need to spend millions to get up the leagues as much smaller clubs than Derby have proven over recent seasons. Tyler Durden, SKRam, MuespachRam and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, peakram said: EFL just applying the rules ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 26 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: There's only one person to blame for all of this, one.. He's lied to us, conned us and left us high and dry. The EFL are applying rules that are in place for every single club. We've lost more than we should. Morris tried to flount the rules, failed and left us. Putting us in administration was the final nail. But if you wanna sing F the EFL for applying punishments to us for breaking rules that we knew were there and knew what the punishment would be then go ahead. You're right in much of what you say, but the EFL did introduce some new sanctions in June of this year, purely coincidentally of course, which had the effect of strangling DCFC alone in respect of making changes to the playing squad. And they've never adequately addressed the transgressions of teams who cheated and connived their way to promotion and, in one case, the PL title. So forgive me if I don't hold them in quite such high regard. Pearl Ram, jimtastic56, Foreveram and 9 others 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Rev said: Live on Sky in front of the nation, let's have 90 minutes of the above chant loud and clear. I wanna see it scrawled on bedsheets and T-shirts, maybe get the kids involved to come up with creative banners. Maybe get Rooney to scribble it on his clipboard too. Duck the efl every day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayram Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) Chanting abuse aimed at the EFL on Sunday will achieve the sum total of duck all and just make us look like a bunch of mardy twits. How about we conduct ourselves with a bit of dignity and just get behind the team for the rest of the season instead? We are going down to League One but we will have new owners and a clean slate by then so I'd rather put my energy into giving the team the support they deserve for the rest of the season. Edited November 16, 2021 by Jayram I know nuffin, Arsene Titman, MidWalesRam and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Not sure I can even be arsed to go at this point tbh, let alone protest jimtastic56, Rammy03 and I know nuffin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Has anyone checked our new rules set out by the EFL to see if we will be deducted more points for anti EFL chants? hintonsboots, DavesaRam, jimtastic56 and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: There's only one person to blame for all of this, one.. He's lied to us, conned us and left us high and dry. The EFL are applying rules that are in place for every single club. We've lost more than we should. Morris tried to flount the rules, failed and left us. Putting us in administration was the final nail. But if you wanna sing F the EFL for applying punishments to us for breaking rules that we knew were there and knew what the punishment would be then go ahead. I take your point but our useless CEO has to take a big portion of the blame. I mean what exactly did Stephen Pearce actually do? What was his job supposed to be? Considering he was first Finance Director and later CEO can we not deduce that he was possibly the biggest driver of our kamikaze accounting? Perhaps even taking more of the blame than Mel? (Who of course has to shoulder a lot of blame) Miggins, Rev, Kathcairns and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: There's only one person to blame for all of this, one.. He's lied to us, conned us and left us high and dry. The EFL are applying rules that are in place for every single club. We've lost more than we should. Morris tried to flount the rules, failed and left us. Putting us in administration was the final nail. But if you wanna sing F the EFL for applying punishments to us for breaking rules that we knew were there and knew what the punishment would be then go ahead. I agree mostly. However, we have been under some form of embargo for 2 seasons and will continue to be under some form for possibly another 2. I don't think that is remotely fair, there has definitely been a willingness on the EFL to ensure we get overly shafted through a long drawn out saga. Mel, Pearce, the EFL, they have all been inadequate ( to say the least) during this process. Kathcairns and Miggins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Just ordered 20k of these... I'll hand them out near Greggs! If anyone sez owt, it's a reference to "Ey Up, Me Duck", and our proud heritage! They'll not be able to touch us ferret! ? Steve How Hard?, Miggins and Rev 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretsquirrel Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Absolutely pointless-just get behind the team-Its going to be hard enough anyway with Bournemouth flying-Let move on and put the crap behind us I know nuffin, MidWalesRam and SKRam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 2 hours ago, rammieib said: Except the EFL originally signed off the amortisation approach and then changed their minds after allegedly receiving pressure from other clubs. They didn't accept the result of the first hearing - so spat their dummies out with an appeal. Continually pushed to have the points penalty applied last season so thus their actions were trying to punish us last year. Ignoring the above, and going with the black/white - the EFL's rules are punishing the fans and not the owners who are responsible. So yes, whilst Morris and Co have done an unbelievably bad job running this club financially, the EFL have also not covered themselves in much glory. I completely agree that this needs fixing, we can't have the situation every year where the relegation spots are, at least partially, filled with clubs who have been docked points. That's not the football league, that's the accounting league. Mel's original beef, with parachute payments, is also a fair one and there is a link between the two - without parachute payments clubs can't buy ther way back and lesser clubs don't have to stretch themselves to breaking to keep up. But, this ultimately has nothing to do with what the EFL did and didn't sign off. The point (excuse the pun) remains that it was Mel's cavalier ownership that caused us to buy Butterfield, Johnson, Olson, Blackman, Anya et al. That was what left us where we are today, left us unable to pay wages, transfer fees, ticket refunds and local suppliers. Not some governing body reversing it's view on our amortisation policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, BaaLocks said: The point (excuse the pun) remains that it was Mel's cavalier ownership that caused us to buy Butterfield, Johnson, Olson, Blackman, Anya et al. But at least we had an enormous amount of fun and success along the way and get to tell the grandkids we saw these players in the flesh, right? LeedsCityRam, Foxy Ram and i-Ram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 How about we actually see us for actually breaking the rules which is what we did. This complex of blaming everyone but mel morris is beyond strange! the only thing that chanting about the efl will make us look like is fools Reggie Greenwood and Papahet 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, alram said: How about we actually see us for actually breaking the rules which is what we did. This complex of blaming everyone but mel morris is beyond strange! the only thing that chanting about the efl will make us look like is fools We literally didn't break any rules as they were written at the time. This complex for taking nothing into account but your hatred of one individual is beyond strange. Acknowledging the faults of other parties isn't absolving Mel Morris of blame for his own actions. Edited November 16, 2021 by Coconut's Beard Adslegend, Kathcairns, rynny and 10 others 8 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Rev said: Live on Sky in front of the nation, let's have 90 minutes of the above chant loud and clear. I wanna see it scrawled on bedsheets and T-shirts, maybe get the kids involved to come up with creative banners. Maybe get Rooney to scribble it on his clipboard too. Hell yes we should do this let's show efl how mad we are with them. Let's do this. Miggins and Rev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Rev said: Live on Sky in front of the nation, let's have 90 minutes of the above chant loud and clear. I wanna see it scrawled on bedsheets and T-shirts, maybe get the kids involved to come up with creative banners. Maybe get Rooney to scribble it on his clipboard too. Hell yes we should do this let's show efl how mad we are with them. Let's do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, Duracell said: But at least we had an enormous amount of fun and success along the way and get to tell the grandkids we saw these players in the flesh, right? Absolutely, that run from Anya, that scorcher from Blackman, that tackle from Butterfield - oh golden days. In all honesty, it was a lot of money to spend on one Olsson goal against the Red Dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 put it this way, i work in burton with a few leicester, few Derby and a few forest fans. everyone that isn't a Derby fan laughs at the percieved witch hunt by the efl and see it what is it. it is about time Derby fans do too, i know we are tribal but for gods sake wake up Gritstone Tup, DavesaRam and Angry Ram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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