Kernow Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 It looks as though RamsTV will no longer be able to show our games live next season, unless you are willing to take a short holiday abroad. Day, therealhantsram, Ramrob and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 But wait... It gets worse... Cost of UK passports to rise for second time in 14 months... 👀 Ken Tram, MackworthRamIsGod, Boycie and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buckley’s Dog Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 12 minutes ago, Kernow said: It looks as though RamsTV will no longer be able to show our games live next season, unless you are willing to take a short holiday abroad. FFS I hate Sky. Andicis, EtoileSportiveDeDerby, Crewton and 6 others 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 So that was the part of the brilliant new rights deal that the EFL negotiated that got the price up a tiny percentage was it. It's a good job ramstv has such a loyal international viewership. Rammy03, ThePrisoner, Indyram and 9 others 8 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_d Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I wish a plague of haemorrhoids on them. Crewton, GboroRam, oodledoodle and 2 others 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 3 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: So that was the part of the brilliant new rights deal that the EFL negotiated that got the price up a tiny percentage was it. It's a good job ramstv has such a loyal international viewership. If they don't show it at all, there will be no 'international' coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 - 'no longer offer domestic live video coverage of EFL matches' Does that mean RamsTV can still offer Radio Derby coverage? Its a lifesaver living 'up norf' now-a-days! RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 3 minutes ago, sage said: If they don't show it at all, there will be no 'international' coverage. They can offer international coverage, so I guess it depends on the numbers if it's worthwhile. If it's not profitable they may cut it which is a huge shame as ramstv is pretty good. I'm pretty sure they'll still have the radio Derby coverage. cstand and therealhantsram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmo’s left foot Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) This is not a step forward at all, it stifles competition and turns it into a closed shop for the benefit of Sky. Shame on the EFL for signing such a deal. and shame on the clubs for agreeing to it also. I will continue to subscribe to Rams TV, my overseas trips currently cost me £5 per month 🙂 Will sky be showing all matches live like Rams TV does? I doubt it! I won't give my money to Sky TV on principle. All fans should boycott Sky TV, they are destroying football in my opinion. Edited April 12 by Simmo’s left foot Nishfan, Abu Derby, DB83 and 19 others 3 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 15 minutes ago, Simmo’s left foot said: This is not a step forward at all, it stifles competition and turns it into a closed shop for the benefit of Sky. Shame on the EFL for signing such a deal. and shame on the clubs for agreeing to it also. I will continue to subscribe to Rams TV, my overseas trips currently cost me £5 per month 🙂 Will sky be showing all matches live like Rams TV does? I doubt it! I won't give my money to Sky TV on principle. All fans should boycott Sky TV, they are destroying football in my opinion. Is that 2 or 3 trips, with return tickets? I'm paying £20 a month to watch the games over here in Spain. At a 5er I'd be better going over to watch a few games. 1967Ram and DenmarkRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I am sure they’ll continue to stream to international subscribers and those who are frequent flyers ahem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Not be long before every man and his dog are on the dodgy sticks. Sky, the premier league and the EFL could see illegal streaming as a symptom of what they have created and try to proactively meet fans halfway and come up with a solution that doesn’t harm the pyramid but allows for clubs to still stream. Instead they treat illegal streaming as a problem in its own right. An example of an idea which will have its obvious flaws but gets a conversation started: Clubs can stream to fans who have a paid membership. This membership allows fans access to purchasing the stream for a match. Membership fees go into a pool to be redistributed across the football pyramid. Clubs earn their revenue from the sale of the stream not the membership. Caerphilly Ram, 1967Ram and RadioactiveWaste 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich3478 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 27 minutes ago, IlsonDerby said: Not be long before every man and his dog are on the dodgy sticks. Sky, the premier league and the EFL could see illegal streaming as a symptom of what they have created and try to proactively meet fans halfway and come up with a solution that doesn’t harm the pyramid but allows for clubs to still stream. Instead they treat illegal streaming as a problem in its own right. An example of an idea which will have its obvious flaws but gets a conversation started: Clubs can stream to fans who have a paid membership. This membership allows fans access to purchasing the stream for a match. Membership fees go into a pool to be redistributed across the football pyramid. Clubs earn their revenue from the sale of the stream not the membership. Exactly, am genuinely happy to pay £10 to stream a game when option is available. Is not an option though so can go the vpn route, or a dodgy box. personally think efl and premier league are nervous of going this route as eventually will be clubs selling direct to fans rather than a package. Man Utd season ticket rather than premier league for example. Makes Sky almost redundant at some point. And then the gap between big and small clubs grows massively and exponentially. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Sky, the destroyers of REAL football. Richard Dastard Lee, EtoileSportiveDeDerby, FlyBritishMidland and 6 others 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, IlsonDerby said: Not be long before every man and his dog are on the dodgy sticks. Sky, the premier league and the EFL could see illegal streaming as a symptom of what they have created and try to proactively meet fans halfway and come up with a solution that doesn’t harm the pyramid but allows for clubs to still stream. Instead they treat illegal streaming as a problem in its own right. An example of an idea which will have its obvious flaws but gets a conversation started: Clubs can stream to fans who have a paid membership. This membership allows fans access to purchasing the stream for a match. Membership fees go into a pool to be redistributed across the football pyramid. Clubs earn their revenue from the sale of the stream not the membership. Agreed with all of that. The illegal streaming is a symptom. It's not like sky is a cheap option. I wonder if below prem level, it's not that it's even worth it to sky to put on the EFL games, they purely want to have the rights as a device to steer consumers of football content towards the main premier League stuff. Edited April 12 by RadioactiveWaste Kathcairns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 4 hours ago, Kernow said: It looks as though RamsTV will no longer be able to show our games live next season, unless you are willing to take a short holiday abroad. So.... no change then 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 2 hours ago, Rich3478 said: Exactly, am genuinely happy to pay £10 to stream a game when option is available. Is not an option though so can go the vpn route, or a dodgy box. personally think efl and premier league are nervous of going this route as eventually will be clubs selling direct to fans rather than a package. Man Utd season ticket rather than premier league for example. Makes Sky almost redundant at some point. And then the gap between big and small clubs grows massively and exponentially. They could change the rules so the club keep a fixed percentage and the rest goes into a shared pot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oodledoodle Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Oh no, does this mean I'll not be able to watch live games now? Very Probably Not. Colm, EtoileSportiveDeDerby, Caerphilly Ram and 5 others 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Spalding Ram Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 pinched from the EFL site. CHANGES TO CURRENT WAYS OF WATCHING Will matches still be available to watch via iFollow, or Clubs’ alternative streaming services? From the 2024/25 season onward, this new deal with Sky Sports will effectively replace the EFL’s domestic video streaming option provided via iFollow and club streaming services Audio services will remain alongside existing audio-visual arrangements for international audiences. PRODUCTION VALUES So will Sky Sports OTT mean single camera production like iFollow? The EFL and Sky Sports will continue to work together to innovate, seeking opportunities to improve coverage and take viewers closer to the action The EFL will be investing significantly in production infrastructure to enhance the viewing experience. Sky Sports will have a minimum of eight cameras for each game broadcast on existing channels A minimum of four cameras will be used at Championship and League One matches, and a minimum of two cameras in League Two For matches available to stream, Sky Sports commentary will also be provided Wonder what Owen Bradley makes of all this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamUltraRam Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 More to the point, does this deal penalise the lower league clubs with big paying TV fanbases. For example, if it was this season, I assume that Derby & Cheltenham would get the same amount per season , but of course would no longer receive the extra income from paying TV viewers. I assume that Derby currently receive a decent income from matchday viewers, certainly a lot more than most League One clubs, and that will be neutralised. Plus, there will be some who don't bother with a season ticket as so many games will be televised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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