Tamworthram Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, Jourdan said: Personally I’m still in the pro-Warne camp. We will win 3-0 on Tuesday and the fans will be singing Warne’s name for the right reasons again. A bit early to hit the bottle isn’t it? 😀 lrm14, RoyMac5, europia and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Jourdan said: Personally I’m still in the pro-Warne camp. We will win 3-0 on Tuesday and the fans will be singing Warne’s name for the right reasons again. Whilst I think that is still a possibility, how many believe in the long-term with Paul Warne? How many now believe in where he seems to be heading the squad and Club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkoRam Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Whilst I think that is still a possibility, how many believe in the long-term with Paul Warne? How many now believe in where he seems to be heading the squad and Club? This is what it boils down to. If results were mixed but there were signs of a plan, a project, some sort of identity for the clubs style long term, then I think you’d have more fans on his side. I see no sign of it, nobody wants to turn up week in week out for us to create 1-2 chances the entire game and maybe score one of those if we’re lucky. I also don’t buy this “we’re just not taking our chances” - I know not everyone agrees with xG but we have an xG of 1.32 per game and we’ve scored 1.5 per game so we’re scoring more than our expected goals. We’re not missing great chances, we’re just not creating them. We’re led to believe we are and then we focus on the one or two chances we missed and think that’s the problem. Every team misses chances but the good teams create enough to convert them. We create very little. No team has a 100% conversation rate on chances. We simply do not create anywhere near enough and it shows because barely anything happens to get fans off their seat. Football is an entertainment business and we’re not being entertained. I wen’t off on a tangent there but in short, there’s little excitement and mixed results. Unbeaten in the 5 previous league games sounds good, but we only won 2 of them so that’s now 2 wins in 7 league games, that’s poor by anyone’s standards. Blondest Goat, May Contain Nuts, lrm14 and 9 others 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnoDCFC Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Not been in the play offs positions so far this season. Yes, it’s still early on the season but there’s been no progression since he came. His interviews gives me the impression that he’s very good at cricket as he loves batting every question away. The sooner the dinosaur is out of the club as well as Pearce then we can move forward. Dcfcsr92 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Ram Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I’m not saying I’m pro or anti Warne, but yesterday was a 3rd division side beating another 3rd division side on their own turf. I don’t subscribe to the ‘we should be beating these teams’ view either. Why? We’re a recent train wreck without a pot to pee in. Aging, injury prone players who I’m sure Warne doesn’t instruct to play wayward passes or squander chances. Warne was appointed on his recent successes, which a lot of people are given jobs for in any industry. europia, Inverurie Ram and MarsdenRam 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 23 minutes ago, JohnoDCFC said: Not been in the play offs positions so far this season. Yes, it’s still early on the season but there’s been no progression since he came. His interviews gives me the impression that he’s very good at cricket as he loves batting every question away. The sooner the dinosaur is out of the club as well as Pearce then we can move forward. Dinosaur? Has Warnock been appointed already? 😀 I can think of many things to call PW but dinosaur isn’t one of them. Also, what has Pearce got to do with anything? If you’re alluding to his time under Mel’s tenure, this has been discussed at length and I think most accept that if DC feels he’s worthy of keeping on we should respect that decision. It seems odd to lash out at him right now. angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Leeds Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ewe Ram said: I’m not saying I’m pro or anti Warne, but yesterday was a 3rd division side beating another 3rd division side on their own turf. I don’t subscribe to the ‘we should be beating these teams’ view either. Why? We’re a recent train wreck without a pot to pee in. Aging, injury prone players who I’m sure Warne doesn’t instruct to play wayward passes or squander chances. Warne was appointed on his recent successes, which a lot of people are given jobs for in any industry. Problem is though that we have a lot of players that proven at championship level, Bird, Sibley, Hourihane, Cashin, Nelson, Elder, Smith, Waghorn, Barks, Laing, Forsyth, Bradley, Washington, Thompson, Nyambe. I’m not saying we should be winning every game but we should be looking far more competitive then we currently are. Turk Thrust and LeedsCityRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazzaRam Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I would be delighted to be Pro Warne. But since we beat Morecambe 5-0 at the start of February we have lost 11 out of 30. And thats with a full pre season and transfer summer sandwiched in between!! I dont see any improvements...I dont see any shape or pattern of play. Its the most bored ive been watching Derby. Take away Peterborough and Blackpool away and its been absolutely dreadful. Beating Exeter wont do anything for me because i know theres a lacklustre performance just round the corner. G-Ram, RoyMac5 and KnowledgeisPorridge 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 47 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Dinosaur? Has Warnock been appointed already? 😀 I can think of many things to call PW but dinosaur isn’t one of them. Also, what has Pearce got to do with anything? If you’re alluding to his time under Mel’s tenure, this has been discussed at length and I think most accept that if DC feels he’s worthy of keeping on we should respect that decision. It seems odd to lash out at him right now. How is Warnock a dinosaur? His teams have all played in different ways, to suit the players at his disposal. Dinosaurs don't make Adel Taarabt the centrepiece of a championship promotion winning team, I'd suggest as one example. Equally, what makes you state PW isn't a dinosaur so assuredly? I see no evidence in his years work so far that he's a modern, progressive tactical coach capable of outthinking his opponents. Bypass midfield, hit the channels, get crosses in, win second balls, score, seems to be the extent of his coaching so far. If you think a why wall, mugs for scoring, pestering players via WhatsApp etc make Warne a modern man, they're just variations of tools managers old and new use to motivate. Steve How Hard?, Norman and RoyMac5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 52 minutes ago, DazzaRam said: I would be delighted to be Pro Warne. But since we beat Morecambe 5-0 at the start of February we have lost 11 out of 30. And thats with a full pre season and transfer summer sandwiched in between!! I dont see any improvements...I dont see any shape or pattern of play. Its the most bored ive been watching Derby. Take away Peterborough and Blackpool away and its been absolutely dreadful. Beating Exeter wont do anything for me because i know theres a lacklustre performance just round the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winktheram Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Tamworthram said: Dinosaur? Has Warnock been appointed already? 😀 I can think of many things to call PW but dinosaur isn’t one of them. Also, what has Pearce got to do with anything? If you’re alluding to his time under Mel’s tenure, this has been discussed at length and I think most accept that if DC feels he’s worthy of keeping on we should respect that decision. It seems odd to lash out at him right now. Pearce holds the purse strings. Did you not listen to the radio Derby interview? Warne hinting he hadn't been given what was promised. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Rev said: How is Warnock a dinosaur? His teams have all played in different ways, to suit the players at his disposal. Dinosaurs don't make Adel Taarabt the centrepiece of a championship promotion winning team, I'd suggest as one example. Equally, what makes you state PW isn't a dinosaur so assuredly? I see no evidence in his years work so far that he's a modern, progressive tactical coach capable of outthinking his opponents. Bypass midfield, hit the channels, get crosses in, win second balls, score, seems to be the extent of his coaching so far. If you think a why wall, mugs for scoring, pestering players via WhatsApp etc make Warne a modern man, they're just variations of tools managers old and new use to motivate. Well the comment about Warnock was a joke in bad taste because of his age and I apologise for any offence it may have caused. As for Taarabt, he was a talented “resource” available to Warnock upon his arrival at. Who is to say any manager taking over at QPR at the time wouldn’t have done exactly the same? Regarding Warne, we may not like the way he operates, we may not think he’s the right manager for Derby but of all the less than complimentary things we might say about him, describing him as a dinosaur wouldn’t be on my list and this is the first time I’ve heard him called one by even his most ardent critics on this site. To clarify, my comments weren’t intended as a defence of PW (if that’s what has upset you). I was found it odd to describe him as a dinosaur of all things. Edited October 22, 2023 by Tamworthram Rev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, winktheram said: Pearce holds the purse strings. Did you not listen to the radio Derby interview? Warne hinting he hadn't been given what was promised. You mean trying the manage the clubs finances reasonably within its means rather than splashing the cash? I must confess I haven’t heard the radio Derby interview to which you refer. What exactly did he say to indicate he had been promised money that was not forthcoming? (Genuine question ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chellaston Ram Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Forget the purse strings this squad should be going better than they are. How a midfield containing the likes of Bird, Hourinane and Smith are not dominating games is beyond belief BPV, Black ('n' White) Sheep, RoyMac5 and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 5 hours ago, TINMANTED said: seeing Curtis Nelson launch every throw in into the box made me think “is this all we have got?” i thought it quite comical taking the tallest player out of the box to put a long throw into collins and co That saved me a post. They aren't even particularly long throws, they barely reach the 6 yard area. ck- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Jourdan said: Personally I’m still in the pro-Warne camp. We will win 3-0 on Tuesday and the fans will be singing Warne’s name for the right reasons again. Had me going for a minute then 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just going by the thread title - is the problem that we've been using the free app version all along? We need to upgrade to Pro-Warne to access exclusive features like advanced tactics and improved game plans? Comrade 86, Dcfcsr92 and ck- 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said: I love the random Twitter accounts you pick out for their pearls of wisdom. Just had a look at this one - 4 geeks in their bedrooms, one with a Star Wars duvet cover, classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 9 hours ago, Jram said: Anyone else still willing to give this time? Don’t seem to be many on the forum. I don’t think we’ve been that bad (albeit I wasn’t there yesterday). Sounded like we had some good spells in the game though and we’ve had some brilliant performances (Peterborough, Blackpool) Big squad turnover in the summer so willing to give it chance to come together. We’ve had some bad luck with injuries and decisions which will hopefully turn. I think some of the anti-warne sentiment is the immediate anger of losing to so-called lesser clubs but, unfortunately, we were always going to lose games across a 46 game season so no need to panic Jram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Jourdan said: Personally I’m still in the pro-Warne camp. We will win 3-0 on Tuesday and the fans will be singing Warne’s name for the right reasons again. Score 3 at home, you cannot be serious. Tamworthram and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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