Rev Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Well the comment about Warnock was a joke in bad taste because of his age and I apologise for any offence it may have caused. As for Taarabt, he was a talented “resource” available to Warnock upon his arrival at. Who is to say any manager taking over at QPR at the time wouldn’t have done exactly the same? Regarding Warne, we may not like the way he operates, we may not think he’s the right manager for Derby but of all the less than complimentary things we might say about him, describing him as a dinosaur wouldn’t be on my list and this is the first time I’ve heard him called one by even his most ardent critics on this site. To clarify, my comments weren’t intended as a defence of PW (if that’s what has upset you). I was found it odd to describe him as a dinosaur of all things. I thought it might be light hearted, and age related, with regards to Warnock, and I take no offence with any of your post. However, I do think dinosaur is a decent description of Paul Warne and his methods so far. He's not a big scary T-Rex though, more a gentle herbivore dino, so he can't quite beat the footballer out of the squad he's both inherited and built. As a consequence, we've ended up with a ineffective hybrid playing style, where ballers still want to ball, while trying not to displease the boss by running around to no real effect. His style can work, but he needed to inherit a squad far closer to his ideal than he did, and he hasn't made enough progress to change that squad. I hoped, on his appointment, that he'd been held back from a more pleasing style of football by the circumstances at Rotherham, and we perhaps offered an opportunity to really build from the ground up a more aesthetically pleasing yet successful football team. That was a false hope. He's a fitness coach, who lucked into management in the first place, had some success, equalled by failure every time, was handed the opportunity of a lifetime here, because let's be honest were any other clubs beating down his door, and he's squandered it, through tactical ineptitude and the inability to adapt to the squad he has, or to build the squad he wants. Tamworthram, Ramzabac and Steve How Hard? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich3478 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 6 hours ago, TINMANTED said: seeing Curtis Nelson launch every throw in into the box made me think “is this all we have got?” i thought it quite comical taking the tallest player out of the box to put a long throw into collins and co I don’t think we’ve even won a header from one yet. Waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Rich3478 said: I don’t think we’ve even won a header from one yet. Waste of time. I would put Collins on long throws, but he may miss the penalty area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 5 hours ago, Jourdan said: Personally I’m still in the pro-Warne camp. We will win 3-0 on Tuesday and the fans will be singing Warne’s name for the right reasons again. We found him ladies and gentlemen. The one remaining pro Warne Derby fan. Does this mean you are David Clowes himself? Gerry Daly and Jram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: We found him ladies and gentlemen. The one remaining pro Warne Derby fan. Does this mean you are David Clowes himself? Spoke to plenty of fans on the way back from Shrewsbury who are pro Warne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 42 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: I would put Collins on long throws, but he may miss the penalty area. The ref would spend half the game trying to get him to take the throw from the right place. He has no idea where he’s supposed to be. Steve How Hard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkley Ram Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mick Brolly said: Spoke to plenty of fans on the way back from Shrewsbury who are pro Warne Are these pro-Warne fans in the room with us right now? Jram and IlsonDerby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eatonram Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: We found him ladies and gentlemen. The one remaining pro Warne Derby fan. Does this mean you are David Clowes himself? I’m pro Warne. You speak for no one but yourself. Arrogant or what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mick Brolly said: Spoke to plenty of fans on the way back from Shrewsbury who are pro Warne That’s what happens when you mingle with the home supporters. 😀 BPV, Ambitious, Steve How Hard? and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkley Ram Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, Tamworthram said: That’s what happens when you mingle with the home supporters. 😀 Strangely he didn't mention they were all wearing Forest shirts. RoyMac5 and Tamworthram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mick Brolly said: Spoke to plenty of fans on the way back from Shrewsbury who are pro Warne No doubt all along the lines of: 'Can't keep sacking managers' - when did we sack the last one? 'Can't afford to sack him' - can't afford to keep him more like! 'Needs his own team' - two transfer windows and 10 signings?! 'He's proven at this level' - but not at this club Any more that I've missed? None of them positive about his football I bet?! Edited October 22, 2023 by RoyMac5 Ramzabac, BPV, DCFC Kicks and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, Mick Brolly said: Spoke to plenty of fans on the way back from Shrewsbury who are pro Warne Fair play, I do hear that Forest and Leeds fans are incredibly positive about the job Paul Warne is doing here. Tamworthram and Walkley Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: No doubt all along the lines of: 'Can't keep sacking managers' - when did we sack the last one? 'Can't afford to sack him' - can't afford to keep him more like! 'Needs his own team' - two transfer windows and 10 signings?! 'He's proven at this level' - but not at this club Any more that I've missed? None of them positive about his football I bet?! Get out a bit a find out for yourself RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Eatonram said: I’m pro Warne. You speak for no one but yourself. Arrogant or what. Almost as if I was taking the piss. Though of course, pro Warne fans don’t have a sense of humour. Warne has drained it from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Just now, Millenniumram said: Fair play, I do hear that Forest and Leeds fans are incredibly positive about the job Paul Warne is doing here. No definitely derby fans don't go thinking everyone is of the same opinion of yourself RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Millenniumram said: Almost as if I was taking the piss. Though of course, pro Warne fans don’t have a sense of humour. Warne has drained it from them. That coming from you absolutely hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, oodledoodle said: Strangely he didn't mention they were all wearing Forest shirts. No definitely derby fans Walkley Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkley Ram Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: No doubt all along the lines of: 'Can't keep sacking managers' - when did we sack the last one? 'Can't afford to sack him' - can't afford to keep him more like! 'Needs his own team' - two transfer windows and 10 signings?! 'He's proven at this level' - but not at this club Any more that I've missed? None of then positive about his football I bet?! Attention seeking, repetitive, I've been watching Derby for 50 years and the current fans are just drunk/drugged up and don't know anything, no guarantee the next manager will be any better, we need to be grateful just to have a club, we can't spend a fee on players, we've been unlucky with injuries, can't judge us so early in the season, bet you'd have wanted Clough/smith/Alf Ramsay sacked too, are you willing to pay him off yourself. I've probably missed some. All solid arguments as to why we should just keep on being awful then 🙄 RoyMac5 and Eatonram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkley Ram Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Mick Brolly said: No definitely derby fans I was only making a crap joke. Plenty of people want Warne to stay, and that's entirely a valid opinion. You have to wonder if these people would call 999 if their house was on fire though, or just wait for things to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, oodledoodle said: Attention seeking, repetitive, I've been watching Derby for 50 years and the current fans are just drunk/drugged up and don't know anything, no guarantee the next manager will be any better, we need to be grateful just to have a club, we can't spend a fee on players, we've been unlucky with injuries, can't judge us so early in the season, bet you'd have wanted Clough/smith/Alf Ramsay sacked too, are you willing to pay him off yourself. I've probably missed some. All solid arguments as to why we should just keep on being awful then 🙄 No young and old fans with different opinions I know it's hard for you to believe but not everyone is of the same opinion as yourself Eatonram, Walkley Ram and Tyler Durden 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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