Derby vs Ipswich (H) Match Thread

[Millenniumram]

53 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

I'm just hoping that David Clowes has your number and steps in before anyone else acquires your services.

As the person that can fix both Derby and Englands problems you really should be a man in demand.

Apart from the fact I don’t actually want Southgate gone and defended him after the World Cup, but you can carry on with that belief if you want. I don’t agree with some of his recent squad choices, but he’s England’s second best manager of all time and has more than proven himself.

I can’t do better than Warne, but I’m sure there’s a great number of managers who can. This squad should be challenging top 2, said that from the moment it was assembled in the summer. 7th place is not acceptable.

Edited April 1, 2023 by Millenniumram

[BramcoteRam84]

18 minutes ago, Mrso said:

I like this.  Thanks.  But you may be missing the game plan that Ipswich used.  It was surely to start on the front foot, silence or rile the crowd and then largely use counterattacks against a slower team.  The time-wasting was a deliberate ploy, not because - as some other teams - they were unwilling to go toe to toe with us.  When you say the first goal was 'still a counter attack' it is as if you think it was a below par goal.  In my opinion for league 1 it was brilliant in its pace.  By not noticing the skills of one of the top teams we beat ourselves up unnecessarily. 

No, it was more emphasising there wasn’t that much in the game. I do mention it was an excellent counter attack and it really was. The time wasting also, was world class, not because they won’t go toe to toe but to stop us the second we got any momentum in the game. It was clever. I don’t think we were that bad today, beaten by a better team as they should be given the millions they’ve spent. Don’t like them though. 

[Jimbo Ram]

22 minutes ago, Millenniumram said:

Apart from the fact I don’t actually want Southgate gone and defended him after the World Cup, but you can carry on with that belief if you want. I don’t agree with some of his recent squad choices, but he’s England’s second best manager of all time and has more than proven himself.

I can’t do better than Warne, but I’m sure there’s a great number of managers who can. This squad should be challenging top 2, said that from the moment it was assembled in the summer. 7th place is not acceptable.

But who would you replace him with? If that doesn’t work out in 6 months who do you replace the guy you want now with then? And so the rollercoaster that is DCFC starts again. I didn’t want Rosenior sacked but now that we have appointed Warne I am happy to give him some time and have some much-needed stability at the club.

[Rambam]

This shows, I believe, the goal was wrongly disallowed. McGoldrick was standing in an offside position, but was not interfering with play. Unless you consider the goalie was prevented from diving? Edit. Nope, the goalie didn’t even dive. Beaten all ends up.

Edited April 1, 2023 by Rambam

[Sufferingfool]

52 minutes ago, BramcoteRam84 said:

Frustrated upset and angry today leaving the ground, hate losing but hate it even more when the opposition are such bad winners. Ipswich fans and players were complete Bamfords today!! Their arrogance rivals Forest. But all in all while it felt bad at the time, again we fell the wrong side of fine margins today. It was never a 2-0 game.

Ipswich are going up. Wouldn’t be surprised if they won the league. The best side to come to Derby this season. They don’t play the best football but they’re the complete team. They have goal threat, a bit of flair when they need it. Defensively they are excellent and concede very few chances, and at the Dark Arts of time wasting and cheating they are world class. Hope they do go up automatically as if we get them in the playoffs we don’t have enough to beat them. Would probably also say the same about Wednesday.

Regarding Derby, we got beaten up and outplayed in the first 25 minutes when Ipswich had their strongest spell of the game. That being said it was still a counter attack that did us, and an excellent one at that though Smith should’ve cut it out before it got to Chaplin. However we weathered the Storm and finished first half strongly in the last 15-20 mins, it was in this period McGoldrick missed an absolute sitter from a worldie Mendez cross, had to score. We carried that on into the second half and then the disallowed goal, watched it back no way should it have been disallowed, that goal is given and it’s a different game. Then the second goal sucker punch was probably the most disappointing moment of the day. Another counter, good save from Wildsmith but the reaction from the Derby players to the save was horrendous!! He had time to run back, turn with the ball, set himself and shoot, it was as if he was taking a penalty!! Really disappointing. 
 

We deserved to lose, we were beaten by a better team one with far more resources than we have right now, but again we were the wrong side of fine margins and were not that far away. That performance from 25 mins on gets 6 points against Forest Green and MK Dons. Then the table looks different again. 
 

As for where it went wrong today, some are blaming Warne. He at least tried something different, if he stuck with the last 2 games he’d have also been criticised. Right call to drop Hourihane and bring in Rooney. Did moving to wing backs stifle Mendez? Possibly. Understand putting Smith in midfield against Morsy and Luongo but thought Harvey White was the standout player at Peterborough and should’ve kept his place. Max Bird on the other hand carried on his poor performance from Peterborough and had a total stinker of a game. I’m a Max Bird fan but he’s struggled since he came back. Though I thought he spoke brilliantly after the game.
 

A few players are still off it. Cash and Foz are definitely out of form right now and struggling, Knight was better today but still needs more care with his end product. Mendez in and out but put in some excellent crosses. Shout out however to Collo who I thought was excellent today without much support at times. 
 

Still think we can turn this around. We were beaten by a better team but the performance wasn’t awful, it wasn’t far off from where we needed it to be apart from first half hour. Peterborough and Wycombe were at home to relegation candidates today, couldn’t win. We have a great chance to get 6 points next weekend. Pompey are now the team I’m most concerned about, that game on the 29th looks humongous!! 

 

Excellent post about sums up my take on the game except I did not leave frustrated and angry with their fans but with ours for the last 20 minutes. For such a so called passionate fan base rather than get behind the team we just left in our droves. Not for the first time the fans in the South stand were out the earliest and quickest! Todays performance was much improved from Fleetwood and decisions and the run of the ball went against us at times against a very good team. Our team needed our support for the full 100 minutes but sadly were abandoned with about 20 still to play.

[Minneapolis Town Tractor]

What to add to this ?     All right, I'm sorry Derby didn't get the result you wanted.     Nothing disingenuous, I realize how frustrating this league is, how tough it is to get out and back to Championship league status.

If I may add, there seems little ambiguity that Derby are encountering problems as we speak.    I don't think you're promotion material right now.    The team is suffering too many setbacks, dropping too many points to feasibly challenge or worry the elite places.

From what I could ascertain your team had chances today.   A goal ruled out maybe, McGoldrick nearly scored - relief he didn't - and Walton made some important stops, but I got to be pleased with our character and determination in the eventual victory.

A few weeks back I and Ipswich were viewing the play-offs as eventual finish, a small chance of second place.     A series of odd defeats to other automatic promotion candidates has turned it on it's head and now the chance is there once again to go up automatically.  

Not saying we will, no season is finalized until the end kick of a final game but I got to be hopeful something now will really work for us and a certain accomplishment will be achieved by the end.    Sheffield W really making a mess of things also it would seem.  

[Gee SCREAMER !!]

7 minutes ago, Rambam said:

This shows, I believe, the goal was wrongly disallowed. McGoldrick was standing in an offside position, but was not interfering with play. Unless you consider the goalie was prevented from diving? Edit. Nope, the goalie didn’t even dive. Beaten all ends up.

Two McGoldrick goals disallowed and two penalties given that shouldn't have been in 5-6 games. 6 points there.  Rotund ref also got directly in Roberts way as Morsy released the ball for their 2nd as well.  That 2 seconds where he had too negotiate his titanic rear made all the difference.

[Millenniumram]

30 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said:

But who would you replace him with? If that doesn’t work out in 6 months who do you replace the guy you want now with then? And so the rollercoaster that is DCFC starts again. I didn’t want Rosenior sacked but now that we have appointed Warne I am happy to give him some time and have some much-needed stability at the club.

Ain’t my job to work that one out. I would yes, that’s modern football - but the idea is to get the next appointment right. Warne was never the right man for the job, Clowes messed that one up as much as I love him for saving the club. Stability with managers is a myth these days, it’s not 1990, I’m more than happy to have a different manager every season if it brings us success.

[Ramarena]

5 hours ago, CBRammette said:

 

 

This is the second time officials have apologised for making a game changing blunder against us.

I appreciate the candor, it’s better than denying responsibility, but it’s cost us between 2-6 points so far………and that’s just the ones they’ve apologised for!

[CBRammette]

9 minutes ago, Minneapolis Town Tractor said:

What to add to this ?     All right, I'm sorry Derby didn't get the result you wanted.     Nothing disingenuous, I realize how frustrating this league is, how tough it is to get out and back to Championship league status.

If I may add, there seems little ambiguity that Derby are encountering problems as we speak.    I don't think you're promotion material right now.    The team is suffering too many setbacks, dropping too many points to feasibly challenge or worry the elite places.

From what I could ascertain your team had chances today.   A goal ruled out maybe, McGoldrick nearly scored - relief he didn't - and Walton made some important stops, but I got to be pleased with our character and determination in the eventual victory.

A few weeks back I and Ipswich were viewing the play-offs as eventual finish, a small chance of second place.     A series of odd defeats to other automatic promotion candidates has turned it on it's head and now the chance is there once again to go up automatically.  

Not saying we will, no season is finalized until the end kick of a final game but I got to be hopeful something now will really work for us and a certain accomplishment will be achieved by the end.    Sheffield W really making a mess of things also it would seem.  

You have to be a Forest fan or MM running a parody account. If not Unbelievable lack of class in victory - good match for "your" team with their gamesmanship

[CBRammette]

2 minutes ago, Ramarena said:

This is the second time officials have apologised for making a game changing blunder against us.

I appreciate the candor, it’s better than denying responsibility, but it’s cost us between 2-6 points so far………and that’s just the ones they’ve apologised for!

It doesnt just affect us though does it. Owls and Plymouth must also be fuming

[Gee SCREAMER !!]

7 minutes ago, CBRammette said:

It doesnt just affect us though does it. Owls and Plymouth must also be fuming

The points gained on them today included two points they should never have had and received due to their own duping of a crap ref, so my sympathy really isn't there on that front.

[bcnram]

We are so predictable in everything that we do. At times it was a shambles. Both of those issues come from the manager. 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Bald Eagle's Barmy Army said:

We will come good this next two games. Stick together and we can go on a good run and make the play offs. 
 

I don’t believe players are tired, just a bad run of results that can easily be turned around with two wins from bottom of the league and MK Dons. 

I hope you’re right - we should win on Friday but tbh I’m not so confident about Monday. 

[cannable]

It’s alright, England are gonna win The Ashes.

[ram59]

Another question for the ref, why did we have to wait for the 3 minutes of Ipswich goal celebrations for the second goal and wait for every player, including one who must have gone for a comfort break in the north stand toilets, before allowing us to make our last 2 substitutions? Normally, the subs quickly come on whilst the celebrations continue and unnoticed by the crowd.

I think that something needs to be done about these 'tactical' injuries, it's becoming a regular occurance throughout football, including Derby. Maybe, both teams outfield players need to be sent to the centre circle whilst a player receives attention? No chance for a manager to give a team talk and any captain's team talk will be overheard by the opposition.

[Caerphilly Ram]

1 hour ago, Millenniumram said:

 

I can’t do better than Warne, but I’m sure there’s a great number of managers who can. This squad should be challenging top 2, said that from the moment it was assembled in the summer. 7th place is not acceptable.

On what basis should this squad be challenging top 2? Can you be specific in your assessment to help me understand please? I’ve seen you make this statement or similar before without ever really qualifying your view. 
As I see it we only have 2 senior strikers both of whom have their limitations it seems, we don’t have a senior specialist right back, 3 of the 4 specialist centre backs are at the wrong end of their careers with one of them injury prone, the other taking up more of a coaching role and one not quite what he was. The 4th cb is promisingly good but also inexperienced as it’s only his second season as a full time professional, this has seen a left back by trade played as a centre back for the majority of the season. As a general rule the squad lacks depth so when injuries and suspensions have played their part we’ve had to adapt as best we can. 
This is an unbalanced squad of experienced senior pros coming towards the end of their careers and youngsters still learning their trade, and for a large chunk of the season it looked like despite all of the above they would challenge top 2, but then reality and poor form set in and we find ourselves where we are. Which I think is an ok position to be in with games still to play. To be in with a chance of the playoffs despite everything is a solid if unspectacular achievement, especially considering what the club looked like on July 1st of last year. 

[Steve Buckley’s Dog]

We had a goal wrongly disallowed. We were in all likelihood beaten by the better team. But surely as true football fans we can offer our best wishes to their  players who simultaneously and coincidentally suffered such serious injuries that neither will likely play again. My best wishes go to their families during this difficult time. 

[kevinhectoring]

6 hours ago, Jourdan said:

Personally, no. I don’t see the point in giving Warne a long term deal and pushing him out before he’s had a chance to build his own team.

I do think not making the play-offs would put him under pressure though.

Think this is why David Clowes has told us promotion from div 1 is a 5 year project. I struggle to imagine how the fans would take another 4 seasons in this div 

Edited April 1, 2023 by kevinhectoring

[JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta]

Me looking for the reason our goal was disallowed