Crewton Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 55 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Reading are about to be hit with a 9 point deduction. With our impending 9 points it leaves us 16 points from safety. An absolute mountain to climb but not unachievable. It'd be great to be told the basis for these deductions, because I'm fairly sure Reading have breached for more than one period. r_wilcockson and Rammy03 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 2 hours ago, The Key Club King said: he game v Chorley last year That wasn't even the first pick of the U23s though. In fact it was barely even the 2nd choice U23s. Some players had to pull out of the squad at the last minute due to Covid. GK - 4th choice RB - 3rd choice LB - 3rd choice CB - 5th, 6th and 7th choice CM - only Dixon missing CF - 3rd and 4th choice All of our wingers were either injured or in quarantine too. We would have won that game with fully fit and available U23 team: Foster; Festy, JBrown, Cashin, Archie; Dixon, LThompson, Hutchinson; Shonibare, Stretton, Wilson Wassall, Williams, McDonald, Duncan, Cresswell, Hector-Ingram, etc on the bench... angieram, Reggie Greenwood, Indyram and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 23 hours ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: We're Derby County and we're going up DCFC Kicks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 7 hours ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Reading are about to be hit with a 9 point deduction. With our impending 9 points it leaves us 16 points from safety. An absolute mountain to climb but not unachievable. MackworthRamIsGod and Rammy03 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 On 10/11/2021 at 20:49, hintonsboots said: Best supported team home and away. New owner, vibrant young team with a couple of decent goal scorers. Challenging for promotion....jumpers for goalposts......... Marvellous! .....isn't it ? jimtastic56, hintonsboots and GB SPORTS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mckram Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 11 hours ago, Arsene Titman said: Could someone please clarify the effect of Administration on future transfer dealings. I am under the impression that the club will be subject to a 2 year transfer embargo of some sort. I think that’s only if we don’t pay 25% to our creditors and agree to a business plan. So as long as we find a buyer who pays then it won’t apply. jimtastic56 and Arsene Titman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 14 hours ago, LazloW said: The football will be grim, but it will be different. Different can be good. Different can be exciting…. Clutching at straws can be good too. Exactly....nobody is sugar coating the standard of football, those that say league was good last time may be living in the past, that’s where we ducking come from. Life like football is what you make of it, park the entitlement, enjoy it for what it is. At least with modern stadia, most of the time you don’t have to wade in puddles of urine in the away bogs, that can’t cope with a few thousand away fans. Walsall away was always an experience ? League 1 will be, what it will be, too much doom and gloom sometimes, I’ll just be happy to see us reset and follow the team to a new future, just like last time, it will feel awful but then the challenge of trying to get back up will begin. LeedsCityRam and Kathcairns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Sunderland, Derby, Sheff Wed, Ipswich, Portsmouth. That was basically a bog standard 6- 10 th place in the premier league about 20 years ago. Probably all in the championship top 6 at the very least. Going to be hard as poo to get out league 1 methinks. In the meantime, Bournemouth top the championship with a 70 million wage bill and 1000 fans for every 10 million on it hurrah !!. dead fair this championship football. The championship will look like the average Third division fixture list as it was for 100 years soon, then there'll be no money in it and no attraction to the premier league to have teams promoted and they'll close it off. Then they can all baalocks. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravabeerbelly Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 League 1 is brutal. As a level it has improved and clubs in it have refined their styles and become far more technical to an extent however the overriding requirement to be successful in it is physicality. Its not so much that to be successful you have to play a more direct game but it’s how you deal with playing against those sides that do. In possession you can have your own style of course and more and more sides are trying to be a little more attractive but the majority of them still rely of percentages and physicality so in order to play “your style” you still have to compete to win the ball back and so your requirements out of possession change completely. In the Championship players and teams place a heavy reliance on defending tactically. Shape, pressing triggers, interceptions and game reading. It’s how players like Max Bird survive defensively in those deeper positions. Of course there is a need to be able to head it and tackle but it’s more more likely to be around your box and dealt with by defenders and Gk. In league 1 it’s everywhere. All areas of the pitch and all players are needed to show a level of proficiency in the more ‘gritty’ side of the game. Opposition gk kick it more regularly, defenders clear it even when they could play out. Midfielders hook it on. The game is about playing for position not possession. While I don’t doubt the technical abilities of many of our players to play pro football…even championship football, if anyone thinks it’s those talents that will get us promoted or see those players tear up the league they are sadly mistaken. Rotherham are a prime example of showing the differences. In the Championship they were found wanting in the technical department. They had good players, were well organised, had a game plan and gave most teams a battle. But they were lacking that little bit of quality or class that makes a difference against players and teams of that level. In league 1 they are now 13 unbeaten and challenging right at the top of the division. They compete all over the pitch. Players are big strong and quick. They get the ball into the box at every opportunity and give teams hell. Of course they have good players and a good manager but it does demonstrate what is required to be successful in that league. Comrade 86, jimtastic56 and Inverurie Ram 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, Ravabeerbelly said: League 1 is brutal. As a level it has improved and clubs in it have refined their styles and become far more technical to an extent however the overriding requirement to be successful in it is physicality. Its not so much that to be successful you have to play a more direct game but it’s how you deal with playing against those sides that do. In possession you can have your own style of course and more and more sides are trying to be a little more attractive but the majority of them still rely of percentages and physicality so in order to play “your style” you still have to compete to win the ball back and so your requirements out of possession change completely. In the Championship players and teams place a heavy reliance on defending tactically. Shape, pressing triggers, interceptions and game reading. It’s how players like Max Bird survive defensively in those deeper positions. Of course there is a need to be able to head it and tackle but it’s more more likely to be around your box and dealt with by defenders and Gk. In league 1 it’s everywhere. All areas of the pitch and all players are needed to show a level of proficiency in the more ‘gritty’ side of the game. Opposition gk kick it more regularly, defenders clear it even when they could play out. Midfielders hook it on. The game is about playing for position not possession. While I don’t doubt the technical abilities of many of our players to play pro football…even championship football, if anyone thinks it’s those talents that will get us promoted or see those players tear up the league they are sadly mistaken. Rotherham are a prime example of showing the differences. In the Championship they were found wanting in the technical department. They had good players, were well organised, had a game plan and gave most teams a battle. But they were lacking that little bit of quality or class that makes a difference against players and teams of that level. In league 1 they are now 13 unbeaten and challenging right at the top of the division. They compete all over the pitch. Players are big strong and quick. They get the ball into the box at every opportunity and give teams hell. Of course they have good players and a good manager but it does demonstrate what is required to be successful in that league. A few seasons ago Bournemouth romped it playing football. MuespachRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravabeerbelly Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: A few seasons ago Bournemouth romped it playing football. A wise man once said to me never base an argument on one example….? Also if you read my post I did say it’s not about how you are in possession it’s having the ability to compete with the less refined teams outs of possession. If Bournemouth had the players to cope with this and play good football at the same time….that’ll be why they romped the league. I certainly never said you can’t play good football in league 1. Edited November 12, 2021 by Ravabeerbelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwick Ram Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 I have to say now that the EFL really are forcing us into relegation. Whilst I still do not believe it is an entire witch hunt what they are doing is not allowing us to be competitive. We have had the normal 12 point deduction for administration. Now a further nine point deduction for financial breaches. So a staggering 21 point deduction. This coupled with them not allowing us to sign players without the embargo restriction has made us almost non competitive. We have a threadbare squad made up of youth players and seasoned pros. Do one or the other. Either do not allow us to sign players or deduct the points. Do not do both. This in my opinion makes a joke of the competitiveness of the league. In my opinion after administration they should be docking us any more points. It clearly shows we are in trouble and that should be the end of it. Their points deductions could put buyers off forcing us into liquidation. I am sure it will not but there is every chance it could. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hordh Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 On 10/11/2021 at 23:10, Jourdan said: I would like to think once the ownership is settled, the club will start making moves to map out the futures of our current players. If we can start next season with Bird, Sibley, Williams, Ebosele, Solomon, Cashin, Watson, Hutchinson and Stretton, it would give us something to work with at the very least. I am also hopeful that as long serving players, the likes of Roos, Davies, Forsyth and Kazim would be keen to extend their stay, be a guiding hand, and help us to bounce back. Outside of those players, I would expect big changes. Knight, Buchanan, Bielik and Jozwiak will surely all be sold in the coming months. Lawrence, Shinnie, Byrne and Marshall will leave on free transfers. Morrison and the embargo boys will surely go too. The worry for me is, what does Rooney know about League 1? Does he have any idea what works or a particular aptitude for lower league football? How will his experience of almost exclusively top level, elite football help us going forward? Personally I would be looking at someone with a proven record in League One and someone who has built a squad in the lower leagues that can reasonably compete when the step up comes along. We need someone who can do what Mark Robins has done at Coventry, for example. Getting rid of players on contracts won't be easy, especially if they are on big wages. They will want paying off. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hordh Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 11 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Sunderland, Derby, Sheff Wed, Ipswich, Portsmouth. That was basically a bog standard 6- 10 th place in the premier league about 20 years ago. Probably all in the championship top 6 at the very least. Going to be hard as poo to get out league 1 methinks. In the meantime, Bournemouth top the championship with a 70 million wage bill and 1000 fans for every 10 million on it hurrah !!. dead fair this championship football. The championship will look like the average Third division fixture list as it was for 100 years soon, then there'll be no money in it and no attraction to the premier league to have teams promoted and they'll close it off. Then they can all baalocks. Bournemouth cheated their way up with Russian money. How any club with a stadium that barely holds 12k is even in the championship I don't know! They were lucky that they got that promotion otherwise they'd have been looking at some serious problems with the FL. Kathcairns, jimtastic56, Ravabeerbelly and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Ravabeerbelly said: League 1 is brutal. As a level it has improved and clubs in it have refined their styles and become far more technical to an extent however the overriding requirement to be successful in it is physicality. Its not so much that to be successful you have to play a more direct game but it’s how you deal with playing against those sides that do. In possession you can have your own style of course and more and more sides are trying to be a little more attractive but the majority of them still rely of percentages and physicality so in order to play “your style” you still have to compete to win the ball back and so your requirements out of possession change completely. In the Championship players and teams place a heavy reliance on defending tactically. Shape, pressing triggers, interceptions and game reading. It’s how players like Max Bird survive defensively in those deeper positions. Of course there is a need to be able to head it and tackle but it’s more more likely to be around your box and dealt with by defenders and Gk. In league 1 it’s everywhere. All areas of the pitch and all players are needed to show a level of proficiency in the more ‘gritty’ side of the game. Opposition gk kick it more regularly, defenders clear it even when they could play out. Midfielders hook it on. The game is about playing for position not possession. While I don’t doubt the technical abilities of many of our players to play pro football…even championship football, if anyone thinks it’s those talents that will get us promoted or see those players tear up the league they are sadly mistaken. Rotherham are a prime example of showing the differences. In the Championship they were found wanting in the technical department. They had good players, were well organised, had a game plan and gave most teams a battle. But they were lacking that little bit of quality or class that makes a difference against players and teams of that level. In league 1 they are now 13 unbeaten and challenging right at the top of the division. They compete all over the pitch. Players are big strong and quick. They get the ball into the box at every opportunity and give teams hell. Of course they have good players and a good manager but it does demonstrate what is required to be successful in that league. Indeed, certain elements of our fanbase are in for a bit of a shock! Ravabeerbelly, Seth's left foot and jimtastic56 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth's left foot Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ramarena said: Indeed, certain elements of our fanbase are in for a bit of a shock! Burton have certainly given us a taste of what we can expect! jimtastic56 and Ramarena 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 The last time I visited Portsmouths ground it reminded me my I was happy that we left the Baseball ground. angieram, MuespachRam and GB SPORTS 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 On 10/11/2021 at 12:46, MACKWORTHRAM said: No international break, Fa Cup first round Paint trophy against Arsenal U21s So much to look forward to. Football doesn’t get stopped for six weeks for a World Cup from November either jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarterForTen Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 I see a lot of League One football and there’s a lot of decent stuff played. And we’ve hardly been spoiled at Pride Park in recent years have we? Be surprised if we notice much difference! jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 On 11/11/2021 at 09:18, LazloW said: The football will be grim, but it will be different. Different can be good. Different can be exciting…. Clutching at straws can be good too. Even that's no longer the case. Nowadays, they just turn to a soggy mulch! You 'avin' that eh, @David? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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