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29 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

His first for 13 months so let’s hope he goes on a scoring streak 

Feel like that’s a pressure lifter for a striker. We now have two strikers who have scored which is better than we could say for the start last season.

Would be great to get Joz and Sibley off the mark as I feel the goals would flow given the current pattern of play emerging.

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1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said:

We're under a hard embargo (due to not submitting accounts and HMRC) which includes U21s if they've played a competitive game.
A soft embargo (typically P&S) wouldn't count them

Yes, I know why they applied those restrictions to us, my point was more that those rules which differentiate between 'hard' and 'soft' embargoes only appear to have been formalised as recently as June of this year (as per the EFL's own statement). If they were in use earlier, I don't ever recall there being any reports of other clubs having them applied in the same way. Certainly, Forest didn't receive any sanctions for repeated failure to pay players or creditors on time, for example. 

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"MAX BIRD KIDNAP SAGA FINALLY OVER" it says as a headline in the Sheeply Evening Telegraph. The culprit has finally come clean, saying that he ran around trying to look like the real Max Bird, but could never produce the football of a player of that stature.

WELCOME BACK, MAX BIRD!!!!

We had a bit of a difficult start because Hull played a tremendously high press, giving us no room or time anywhere on the pitch, and Buchanan in particular had a tough time. Their winger was pretty tricky! Davies was looking like man of the match already with some brilliant defensive play. But that is just the start.

Thankfully Hull couldn't keep that level of intensity for long, and we started to get a bit of a foothold in the match. I didn't see much of the pre-season, but the opinion was that Baldock wouldn't pull any trees up, just running around a lot, and never quite reaching through balls, and not shooting  very well, and my early observations were that yes, he does run around a lot, and isn't quite there when the ball comes through. Oh well.

Joswiak and Sibley played well - possibly their best game for the club, but faded after swopping wings for a while. Byrne and Buchannan had a tough time because Hull seemed to like getting the ball wide and getting crosses in. With Jagilka and Davies I don't mind that one bit though!

As ever we seemed very ponderous playing out from the back - it didn't seem that Shnnie played the ball forwards at any time in the 90 minutes, and we needed to get out much faster. Hull noticed, so as soon as we got the ball to Shinnie or Bird there was a swarm of Hull players in a diamond spread right in front of our player, who had nowhere to go. Good tactic, so we need to be more incisive. But how played was a decisive factor in beating that tactic, and our movement through the phases was a major factor in last night's success. The interplay was tremendous at times, with some superb touches, lay-offs and through balls. WE could have had 3 or 4 goals by half-time, but it didn't quite happen. We could have had 3 or 4 free-kicks and a penalty by half-time if we had got a ref on the pitch! Ho hum!

Ravel Morrison should have played Sibley in and we would have gone head, and probably turned Hull over big time, but he went for the lob and failed. He has great talent, but is a bit full of himself - not the arrogance of "what are you doing playing on my football pitch" attitude of Igor Stimac, but loads of confidence in his own ability. Long may it continue! 

Jagielka being hauled to the floor with a bear hug was an absolute nailed on penalty, yet Buchannan giving their man a single shoulder charge was a free-kick? Come on EFL. Sort your refs out! Same for when Stretton got booked or kicking the ball aw y late on in the game. No-one ever gets booked for that. Ever. Teams spend the entire match doing it against u, with no consequence. But this is a Derby player. And Roos - he caught a cross and was just coming back to ground, heading for the Hudd who deliberately put his shoulder into the keeper's chest, winding him. The very next moment Roos came for the cross and their CF not only made a back for him, but stepped backwards ensuring that he flipped Roos over, and there wasn't even a free-kick. This was deliberate bullying of the keeper, and Roos went apoplectic at the lino, and was booked. For protesting after being assaulted twice in two minutes. And the pull back on Baldock - did I mention his running? He caused them all sorts of trouble with it, pulling defenders away, getting in behind, and so on. The ref wasn't going to give anything. We don't do it often, but our players surrounded the ref while play was still going on, but the lino intervened, and the guy was carded. It wasn't a red, although quite close, but that the ref wasn't going to do anything yet gain was the disgrace. 

And the goal - Baldock was in the right place at the right time. Yahoooooo!!!! Did I mention his running? We now have two poachers who can score true striker's goals. We are rich beyond our wildest dreams!

At the start I thought Davies would be our man of the match by some margin, but when Roos's three harmlessly misplaced passes is about as bad as it gets, it is difficult to single one person out. So I am going to nominate a whole load of them as man of the match - the travelling supporters., who were stupendous yet again. The coverage was from Hull TV, but all we could here was our lot! Brilliant!

COME ON YOU FANS!

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1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said:

Watched the short highlights as the (membership) long highlights aren't up yet. Thought at the time the ref wasn't going to give that pull on Baldock, he'd played on ffs! Not as poor a ref as the Peterboro one but still iffy at times I thought.

It was closer to being in the box than Forsyth's pull v Salford

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1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said:

Watched the short highlights as the (membership) long highlights aren't up yet. Thought at the time the ref wasn't going to give that pull on Baldock, he'd played on ffs! Not as poor a ref as the Peterboro one but still iffy at times I thought.

He got to the right call in the end, which is rare for refs at this level. 9 times out of 10 they seem to think they have to call it within half a second of the incident. Most refs in that situation would have just stuck with their gut instinct and played on and took the flak later. He let play continue for a few seconds while he consulted the assistant who had a different angle, and then gave it. I have to give props for that

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Just dropping in to give full credit to the team and the management for a great win last night. I remain a little sceptical of the tactical direction of the team, just based on how thin the squad is, but it was excellent to see it all come together yesterday. If can put together a consistent run I would be delighted to eat my words - more performances like that would make me a happy man.

I thought Bird & Jozwiak improved massively - Joz really deserved that goal - and Jags & Baldock made a huge difference in their debuts. My personal MOTM was Curtis; his positioning is next level. Great all round, long may it continue. 

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15 minutes ago, Tombo said:

He got to the right call in the end, which is rare for refs at this level. 9 times out of 10 they seem to think they have to call it within half a second of the incident. Most refs in that situation would have just stuck with their gut instinct and played on and took the flak later. He let play continue for a few seconds while he consulted the assistant who had a different angle, and then gave it. I have to give props for that

He let play continue until he was surrounded by our players demanding he give the foul, would he have looked at his linno otherwise, doubt it. No props from me.

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1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said:

Watched the short highlights as the (membership) long highlights aren't up yet. Thought at the time the ref wasn't going to give that pull on Baldock, he'd played on ffs! Not as poor a ref as the Peterboro one but still iffy at times I thought.

Roy, if you are a member and log in you can watch the whole match back if you click on Live Match Replay.

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24 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

Roy, if you are a member and log in you can watch the whole match back if you click on Live Match Replay.

Don't think that's part of the DCFC Lite membership, I tried and the video doesn't play.

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Was there last night , no voice today , Derby fans outstanding all game , really got the team over the line , proud of the lads last night , dominated a fair percentage of the game , disappointed with Hull , never really troubled us , all the lads stuck to their jobs and everyone gave their all , but a big shout out to Jags , immense at the back .

                   Congratulations Wayne and your staff , it might only be one win but some of your doubters might be having second thoughts , much improved and well deserved COYR

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