Ravabeerbelly Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 All I got from that was :- Salford was a sterner test with their pressing and front foot defending limiting time and space on the ball as opposed to Betis low intensity low energy approach of a team who looked like they were only interested if they had the ball. There was so much time and space in possession it was like a training game at times. Jagielka needs to be signed. Sibley, Watson, Hutchinson have all looked to offer more as inside forward than Aluko has. I dont see what he brings to it. Forsyth was excellent. As was Shinnie. Bird is better and will be worth more than Carroll. I don’t see the benefits of Carroll over Bird in essentially the same role. Roos was MoM Not sure Baldock is the answer even as cover as CKR will clearly be the main striker. Rooney has made a rod for his own back making Lawrence skipper as he has to play him….will he justify that? Morrison has had less impact with each appearance…. I think we are yet to score a goal with any of Morrison, Lawrence or Aluko on the pitch. A win is a win and always raises morale HorsforthRam, Foreveram, NottsRam77 and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 31 minutes ago, Barney1991 said: Love the look of watson. Unpopular opinion but I think he will be a better player than sibley Both have ability… just like the look of Watson more .. has a touch of real class Rampage, DesertRam, Anag Ram and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, nottingram said: The great thing is that the mismanagement of him has probably taken £10m off his value. Completely and utterly counter intuitive. Just trust him, really don’t think it’s difficult. If he's such a great player then others will see it. If he isn't no-one will want him. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Thought we had a good Second half when we had the change around the 55 minute mark team seemed to gel better, considering the players that have left i think we are better than the doom mongers are saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Based on tonight Didn’t think Baldock offered anything I wouldn’t offer him a contract aluko not sure did a few good things but vision wasn’t one of them Jag sign him up Morrison did enough to show what he can do sign him up Carroll people might disagree but I saw enough to say he has something to bring I would sign him Stearman didn’t play Alsop pass had nothing to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 .........to all the moaners and groaners...........Shhh ..........We Are Derby......Super Derby......Super Rams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Let’s not be too hasty, the next Manager might think a lot differently… Which is why i would loan him if he is out of favour rather than sell him Rev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I'm confused. I was all ready for the sleepy wayne snide comments all evening but apparently we did the impossible and won against a team not really trying in a friendly in preseason. Is it OK if I just pretend things were terrible and sleepy wayne is a potato. EraniosSocks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidd10 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 39 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: When did Watson score a hat trick at pride park? I like him but he's no Sibley! Sibley just needs minutes. Sibley hasn’t scored a hat trick at Pride Park? I wouldn’t be doing anything daft like loaning Sibley out. But I don’t think the best thing is to just give him 90 mins and trust him… he’d be sent off 2/3 times a season Scoot Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: No,he's not got either pace or the guile from what I saw. We need another striker in,Colin can't do a full season or anything like it I wouldn't of thought. Importantly,that striker needs to be another hold up type,like Colin so it doesn't completely throw the players when Colin is supplanted by him. We've cocked up that before! I actually don't think we necessarily need that but it's important that what type of player is there is matched to the player playing at 10. A 4231 does allow for a player focussing on getting in behind but typically you want to pair that kind of player with somebody at 10 who is going to sit in the pocket and look to thread passes as opposed to somebody who is looking to make late runs and get their shot off. In the current squad if you had Sibley or perhaps Lawrence at 10 they are probably best suited by somebody who is physical, can create space for them and set them up. The ball in this situation is often played into 9 for them to feed the onrushing 10. However if you played somebody like Watson, maybe Morrison or maybe even Bird you could afford a player running in behind with the idea that ball solely goes into the 10 who then looks to play in the 9. If that all make sense? Either works and can be effective but you just need to have a plan for who is doing what and why. kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said: Unpopular opinion but I think he will be a better player than sibley Both have ability… just like the look of Watson more .. has a touch of real class Sibley hasn't shown much for a while. His first touch is poor and he takes too long to make his mind up when in possession. I know confidence is everything with players like him and that irregular appearances don't help but he needs to produce to get game time. CKR messed up several chances tonight but still looked the most likely to score before Bird's surprise winner. We can't keep playing Lawrence, Jozwiak and a defensive midfield and hoping they'll score. If we can't bring players in, it'll be another 30 goal season. NottsRam77 and Rammy03 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Which is why i would loan him if he is out of favour rather than sell him Needs to be in the squad for me… Deej 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 44 minutes ago, Topram said: Just beaten a very good Betis side there, nice to see the celebrations at the end too the players looked very happy which is great to see! God it feels nice to have some positivity We play better against possession based teams and worse against direct ones Ramarena, Premier ram and DCFC1388 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckoBeast Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Best thing was watching Manuel Pellegrini and his team step off what looked like a 30 year old Bagnalls coach ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I'd like to imagine that there is a Real Betis forum in Spanish somewhere on the Internet and they are currently having an absolute meltdown about being beaten in pre-season by a second tier team with about 8 senior players on the books that are being managed by a clown. Sly, cstand, Ramarena and 12 others 2 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: If we can't bring players in, it'll be another 30 goal season. And that's what I've been saying. Forget Rooney for a minute, forget the coaching staff, forget the shambles off the pitch, it's all about the players. We need better players. It's as simple as that. And I know with the current situation, it is going to be hard to bring better in. But not impossible. But what I would say is, just from these few games, Baldock and Aluko are not it. They are not the answer. They will not improve us. The Scarlet Pimpernel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Woodley Ram said: We play better against possession based teams and worse against direct ones They wouldn’t let us play out from the back all game? So maybe they are both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: And I know with the current situation, it is going to be hard to bring better in. But not impossible. Where you thinking we might get some from then?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, RoyMac5 said: Where you thinking we might get some from then?! Well for instance, Norwich signed pukki on a free. He was good. But they have a good recruitment team, we don't. Patrick Rams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 It was great fun against a team who were technically very good but played at half pace. Notts County I'd imagine will give us a stiffer test, as did Salford. Roos pulled of two excellent saves, and there were some good performances outfield, notable Shinnie, who it's fair to say didn't enamour himself to the Spanish with his style of play, and Byrne. No surprise those two were our best two players last season. Of those without a contract, Jagielka and Carroll performed well. Aluko, Morrison and Baldock I'm afraid did not impress. Sibley, Williams and Watson looked bright when they came on, and CKR changed the impetus of the game when he came on by giving us a focal point up front. Decent atmosphere in the second half as well - doubt the East Stand has had so much singing in it since it was built! Overall, great to be back, more positive than the doom and gloom on here and on social. For tonight, at least. jono, Rampage, Inverurie Ram and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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