jono Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Van der MoodHoover said: @DarkFruitsRam7 take note...... ? Surprise of the season to be DFR turning out to be the male equivalent of Mrs Bouquet’s maiden Aunt, who’s biggest sin is a glass of Sherry at Christmas Van der MoodHoover and DarkFruitsRam7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 A noticeable difference in the pattern of play was when Andres Guardado was subbed off at half-time. He absolutely ran it for Betis in the first half, dropping deep and pinging 40-yard passes to the fullbacks high up the pitch. He supplied the pass for their one-on-one. Byrne and Buchanan had to tuck in, otherwise they could have just played through the middle. That deep-lying playmaker role is vital. Derby have actually lacked once since Wayne Rooney pre lockdown and Tom Huddlestone. It’s partly why, IMO, Cocu struggled last season. Ironically, Cocu had Guardado at PSV. As much as I like Shinnie’s tenacious tackling, Jason Knight’s energy and Max Bird’s simple ball retention, we desperately lack a creativity midfielder from deep. Krystian Bielik has it in his locker, and despite having a great defensive presence, his absence has hurt us immensely from at attacking/controlling perspective too. New Gold Dream and ariotofmyown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: A noticeable difference in the pattern of play was when Andres Guardado was subbed off at half-time. He absolutely ran it for Betis in the first half, dropping deep and pinging 40-yard passes to the fullbacks high up the pitch. He supplied the pass for their one-on-one. Byrne and Buchanan had to tuck in, otherwise they could have just played through the middle. That deep-lying playmaker role is vital. Derby have actually lacked once since Wayne Rooney pre lockdown and Tom Huddlestone. It’s partly why, IMO, Cocu struggled last season. Ironically, Cocu had Guardado at PSV. As much as I like Shinnie’s tenacious tackling, Jason Knight’s energy and Max Bird’s simple ball retention, we desperately lack a creativity midfielder from deep. Krystian Bielik has it in his locker, and despite having a great defensive presence, his absence has hurt us immensely from at attacking/controlling perspective too. Some fair points, but it doesn’t take much to recognise we are missing Bielik, just as we missed Thorne. This situation should improve without us having to outlay anything. I’d add that Shinnie apart, our midfield compliment are all young - improving their entire game should come with time. Assuming we can get Jagielka, the gap left by Clarke is filled. The biggest unresolved issue is up front. We don’t have cover or an alternative or support for CKR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, jono said: Some fair points, but it doesn’t take much to recognise we are missing Bielik, just as we missed Thorne. This situation should improve without us having to outlay anything. I’d add that Shinnie apart, our midfield compliment are all young - improving their entire game should come with time. Assuming we can get Jagielka, the gap left by Clarke is filled. The biggest unresolved issue is up front. We don’t have cover or an alternative or support for CKR. We certainly need another alternative upfront. Wayne Rooney failed to win a single game without Bielik and Gregory last season. I think the record was one draw and nine losses from the ten games neither player featured in. It’s strange that the midfield is the moat flushed out position currently. However, I feel Shinnie and Knight are too similar (or equally lack the creativite attributes) while Sibley, Watson and Lawrence are all arguably better occupying that number 10 role. My real hope is for Max Bird to really break out as the creative midfielder, but that’s an awful lot of pressure on young shoulders. Wayne Rooney bringing in Tom Carroll shows he is aware of the problem there. Edited July 29, 2021 by Bris Vegas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Think we have better players for a 4141 formation than a 4231. At least at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 25 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: A noticeable difference in the pattern of play was when Andres Guardado was subbed off at half-time. He absolutely ran it for Betis in the first half, dropping deep and pinging 40-yard passes to the fullbacks high up the pitch. He supplied the pass for their one-on-one. Byrne and Buchanan had to tuck in, otherwise they could have just played through the middle. That deep-lying playmaker role is vital. Derby have actually lacked once since Wayne Rooney pre lockdown and Tom Huddlestone. It’s partly why, IMO, Cocu struggled last season. Ironically, Cocu had Guardado at PSV. As much as I like Shinnie’s tenacious tackling, Jason Knight’s energy and Max Bird’s simple ball retention, we desperately lack a creativity midfielder from deep. Krystian Bielik has it in his locker, and despite having a great defensive presence, his absence has hurt us immensely from at attacking/controlling perspective too. You're back! Brilliant Now then. Peterborough away 2012... RIMBAUD, Bris Vegas, RoyMac5 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, sage said: You're back! Brilliant Now then. Peterborough away 2012... Play nicely! That was almost a decade ago now. Simpler times back then as we debated Nigel Clough’s pitfalls. Seems small compared to the problems we face now, on and off the pitch. ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Play nicely! That was almost a decade ago now. Simpler times back then as we debated Nigel Clough’s pitfalls. Seems small compared to the problems we face now, on and off the pitch. Welcome back Bris. ? Bris Vegas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Play nicely! That was almost a decade ago now. Simpler times back then as we debated Nigel Clough’s pitfalls. Seems small compared to the problems we face now, on and off the pitch. I was only joking and am genuinely glad you are back on here. Bris Vegas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OohMartWright Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 55 minutes ago, sage said: I was only joking and am genuinely glad you are back on here. Get a room. cstand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, OohMartWright said: Get a room. Never again. OohMartWright 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Bris Vegas said: Play nicely! That was almost a decade ago now. Simpler times back then as we debated Nigel Clough’s pitfalls. Seems small compared to the problems we face now, on and off the pitch. Glad to see you back. Hope everything is good and we can look forward to plenty of posts. You still in Mexico? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: Glad to see you back. Hope everything is good and we can look forward to plenty of posts. You still in Mexico? Thanks buddy. Yes I’m still here, currently shriveled up under an AC with the heat outside unbearable. I’m glad to be back on. It was an all-or-nothing really as the price increase for RamsTV subscription admittedly tested my support for the year considering we’re almost certainly in for a struggle. But regardless of my opinion on the manager and those in charge, the club needs all the support it can get right now! OohMartWright, Donkey Derby, archram and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Hang on a minute. Talk of a mystery American owner then a guy called Vegas comes sniffing around the site to find out what the fans are talking about? ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Anag Ram said: Hang on a minute. Talk of a mystery American owner then a guy called Vegas comes sniffing around the site to find out what the fans are talking about? All that option trading has worked out well! Anag Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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