Gee SCREAMER !! Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 If he has 60 million he wants to spend and a loan striker. I'll happily pick them up tomorrow. r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: Mike Ashley is a horrible thing. But has managed to run Newcastle a million times better than our superfan owner. Ashley just wouldn’t run the club like that, he’s profit driven (with high commercial intelligence). It wouldn’t be boom or bust, it would be boring - which we could do with for a few years. Ashley has never driven a £28m debt up with the HMRC for starters! ariotofmyown, r_wilcockson, jimtastic56 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 5 hours ago, PistoldPete said: Mel Morris owns the stadium through his own company. There are mortgages but that doesn’t affect his ownership . He can do nothing with it It’s in hock jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 4 hours ago, PistoldPete said: Why would he default on the mortgage? The mortgage is already in default jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Ashley would probably be ok for DCFC at the moment. For the way he allowed his workers to live in Shirebrook he can duck off and die. DavesaRam, mike93rh, atherstoneram and 2 others 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 4 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Can only see that it will be VAT or PAYE, so no idea why it would be in dispute. Yes if it’s just VAT or PAYE, then dispute is unlikely. But see @jono’s post above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Just now, uttoxram75 said: Ashley would probably be ok for DCFC at the moment. For the way he allowed his workers to live in Shirebrook he can duck off and die. I don’t know anyone that’s ever worked there so can’t comment, but I heard similar things about Amazon then did a site visit at one of their warehouses and it was good. I think sometimes these things are blown out of proportion. Sparkle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 'It has been unclear if alleged piracy or alleged human rights abuses by Saudi Arabia were the central issue, but they have been rendered immaterial now that PIF is regarded as a different entity. That is despite Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman also being chair of PIF and being accused of ordering the death of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, which the Kingdom's leader denies.' Fit and proper............ Ram-Alf, Comrade 86, uttoxram75 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Gritstone Tup said: Yes he could do that Stive let’s hope so. I’m guessing he could only charge dcfc about £2million/year for rent but a secure investment all the same. My only problem with that, is why didn’t he buy the stadium outright in the first place, why pay a penny in interest to MSD? Rent should be £3.5-4m given the sale price. We have actually been paying £1.1m. Edited October 7, 2021 by Ghost of Clough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 9 hours ago, Gritstone Tup said: But from what I’ve heard/read and please tell me if I’m wrong! Mel borrowed £81million from MSD to buy the stadium. So yes imo he will default rather than pay £8million/year in interest for no reason. Unless you think a buyer will come in and buy the stadium for £85million plus pay off all debts? The original loam to buy the stadium was with Gabay, which has since been paid off. MSD was a £15m loan, topped up with an extra £4m, at 9% interest... believed to be to cover Covid. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ambitious said: Ashley just wouldn’t run the club like that, he’s profit driven (with high commercial intelligence). It wouldn’t be boom or bust, it would be boring - which we could do with for a few years. Ashley has never driven a £28m debt up with the HMRC for starters! People's main gripe seems to be that he massively underpaid his workers...for that reason alone I'm in, ridiculous wage bills are a huge part of why we are in this mess. Edited October 7, 2021 by Chester40 jimtastic56 and mike93rh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 31 minutes ago, Chester40 said: People's main gripe seems to be that he massively underpaid his workers...for that reason alone I'm in, ridiculous wage bills are a huge part of why we are in this mess. It's not his footballers that he underpays. DCFC is not in poo because it overpays cleaners, admin staff and so on. RadioactiveWaste, mike93rh, jimtastic56 and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Ashley took over an established top half club, who only 10 years before were title candidates, and got them relegated twice in the span of a decade. They've gone backwards under him. Why anyone thinks he has the knowhow to get us "established in the Premier League" I don't know because he hasn't ever backed a manager in all his time there jimtastic56 and Kathcairns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Rent should be £3.5-4m given the sale price. We have actually been paying £1.1m. The sale price would have reflected development opportunities and plans in place. The rent reflected the fact that the club only used the ground for x amount of days per year. Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 6 hours ago, Yani P said: 'It has been unclear if alleged piracy or alleged human rights abuses by Saudi Arabia were the central issue, but they have been rendered immaterial now that PIF is regarded as a different entity. That is despite Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman also being chair of PIF and being accused of ordering the death of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, which the Kingdom's leader denies.' Fit and proper............ Well our Fake sheikh “? lid” passed the joke of a test too jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 8 hours ago, uttoxram75 said: Ashley would probably be ok for DCFC at the moment. For the way he allowed his workers to live in Shirebrook he can duck off and die. Just a question, What has living in Shirebrook to do with Ashley all be it his Warehpouse was situated there, Unless he bought the whole housing stock that is, There were buyers by the 100s offering silly money years ago, Making houses HMOs, There were double bedrooms made into 2 single rooms to get more beds in, The windows would have a partition running up against them to split down the middle. His Empire in Shirebrook wasn't the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, But i'd take him over a State where human rights are non existant. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 8 hours ago, Ambitious said: I don’t know anyone that’s ever worked there so can’t comment, but I heard similar things about Amazon then did a site visit at one of their warehouses and it was good. I think sometimes these things are blown out of proportion. My nephew works for Amazon, dreadful company...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 If Mike Ashley walks away with 300 million for Newcastle, he could probably get Derby as a competing force in the Championship for 100 million, cost to buy, clearing debts and a squad and all But, why would he haggle so much on how much he gets for Newcastle to then chuck it away on Derby. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 11 hours ago, Rev said: If Mike Ashley was to take over, I'd call it a day on football. If no one takes over I would as well ! out of interest what exactly has he done that’s wrong and bad at Newcastle United? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 9 hours ago, Yani P said: Wouldn't want him anywhere near our great club... Well if he’s selling an established premiership club with a great fan base at a profit then he’s done something right - we need an owner to stabilise us and get us promoted probably twice and has the money to actually pay the bills. Derby4Me and r_wilcockson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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