RadioactiveWaste Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 On 05/02/2023 at 10:15, Crewton said: I'm pretty certain that none of us fans ever suggested that, even when it was going well. It was pretty clear from the off that he intended us to be a stepping stone and wouldn't be here long. Well, he got that right, didn't he? Mel said he was going to be our Alex Ferguson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondest Goat Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, jimtastic56 said: Thanks. We know your opinion by now . Please don’t try to stop anyone else having some thoughts as the season progresses. We know everyone's opinion. It has been discussed endlessly for months. How Warne compared to Rosenior in the immediate aftermath of his appointment may well have been valid. At this stage months later and flying in the league it is completely irrelevant. Edited February 7, 2023 by Blondest Goat . Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 4 hours ago, jimtastic56 said: Fans all over the world love to talk about styles of play. And in particular - what style Keep me out of this will you...and you've spelt my name wrong jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 10 hours ago, jimtastic56 said: Warne really is the League 1 Pep. But Rosenior has got 13pts from his last 6 league games in the Championship , with a poor squad. He has taught them how to pass it out from the back. True our players did not like it , fans panicked. But if we get in the Championship next season , still under restrictions. Warne will have to prove himself as a tier 2 manager. I think Warne will be very aware that he will have to prove himself as a Championship manager. But he and his coaching staff seem very confident and intelligent guys. I don't think they've ever had as big an opportunity in the Championship as that which Derby County will offer them. Do you not think that may have been a major part of their reasoning when they decided to leave Rotherham in the Championship to come here and take us back up? COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Brailsford Ram said: I think Warne will be very aware that he will have to prove himself as a Championship manager. But he and his coaching staff seem very confident and intelligent guys. I don't think they've ever had as big an opportunity in the Championship as that which Derby County will offer them. Do you not think that may have been a major part of their reasoning when they decided to leave Rotherham in the Championship to come here and take us back up? COYR David Clowes and Paul Warne both seem intelligent and professional people. Right from day one Warne said he'd signed up for the journey with DCFC. I assume he meant that he (with his team), feel they have a chance of doing something here that perhaps was not possible with Rotherham. Warney is ambitious and DCFC are a big enough club to give him the chance to fulfil those ambitions. I've just realised thats a long winded way of agreeing with what you said in the first place. Crewton and SKRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabber Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Brailsford Ram said: I think Warne will be very aware that he will have to prove himself as a Championship manager. But he and his coaching staff seem very confident and intelligent guys. I don't think they've ever had as big an opportunity in the Championship as that which Derby County will offer them. Do you not think that may have been a major part of their reasoning when they decided to leave Rotherham in the Championship to come here and take us back up? COYR I think he hoped that he could take us up this year, but now he completely understands the restrictions of our business plan I wonder if he thinks we offer considerably more chance, if we are there next year, than he did with Rotherham? Hopefully we can negotiate but it may be very challenging indeed and perhaps not as big an opportunity as it would have been without this additional year or potential restrictions therealhantsram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 It’s the type of thing Warne will make a joke about and deflect attention onto the team but I hope he wins it and gets further acknowledgement of our good run. They’ll probably give it someone else of course. Derby4Me, RoyMac5 and SKRam 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 21 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: It’s the type of thing Warne will make a joke about and deflect attention onto the team but I hope he wins it and gets further acknowledgement of our good run. They’ll probably give it someone else of course. Darren Moore would actually be the obvious choice having beaten Plymouth and gone top with a perfect record in the league also. RadioactiveWaste, therealhantsram, Crewton and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, richinspain said: Darren Moore would actually be the obvious choice having beaten Plymouth and gone top with a perfect record in the league also. Lets hope so - winning such things often kiss of death SKRam, NellyRam, RadioactiveWaste and 3 others 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 27 minutes ago, CBRammette said: Lets hope so - winning such things often kiss of death If you are going to insist on making absurd and baseless assertions rooted solely in superstition and without any material bearing on likely outcomes, could you at least wait until such time as I am wearing my lucky pants? SKRam, CBRammette, Archied and 5 others 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 55 minutes ago, richinspain said: Darren Moore would actually be the obvious choice having beaten Plymouth and gone top with a perfect record in the league also. Without taking anything away from Moore’s January achievements, they beat Plymouth in February. i-Ram, samtheram83, SKRam and 6 others 1 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 58 minutes ago, richinspain said: Darren Moore would actually be the obvious choice having beaten Plymouth and gone top with a perfect record in the league also. The game against Plymouth was in February so doesn't count towards the January award..... NellyRam and richinspain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 5 hours ago, dabber said: I think he hoped that he could take us up this year, but now he completely understands the restrictions of our business plan I wonder if he thinks we offer considerably more chance, if we are there next year, than he did with Rotherham? Hopefully we can negotiate but it may be very challenging indeed and perhaps not as big an opportunity as it would have been without this additional year or potential restrictions I think he probably discussed all of that with David Clowes in the negotiations when he was offered the job. I very much doubt that he was under any illusions about the size of the task ahead when accepted the job but his performance so far seems to suggest that he is eager to take us up at the earliest opportunity and the players seem to have bought into that ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 56 minutes ago, Foreveram said: Without taking anything away from Moore’s January achievements, they beat Plymouth in February. 55 minutes ago, Gaspode said: The game against Plymouth was in February so doesn't count towards the January award..... Mucker1884 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alty_Ram Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 He's done an absolutely outstanding job so far. Slightly slow start but he's really got us firing now. The only thing we don't have an answer for at this stage is how potentially we will fare if we get promoted. It's perhaps understandably a slight reservation amongst some fans that he has not (yet) managed to get a team to stick having got them promoted to the Championship but that may in part be down to resources at his previous club. Who knows, he may take it in his stride but we certainly need to not carry any inferiority complex with us if we end up facing much better sides. If I'm honest I was a little disappointed in the West Ham game as we seemed to show them a lot of respect and never really laid a glove on them. I was hoping that we'd have a right go but it was a bit of a damp squib in the end. The reality is though that if we get promoted at some stage then there will be teams that we face that will have financial resources that are beyond anything we have due to the obscene size of the parachute payments. Regardless though, these teams were our peers for season after season in recent times and our fans will be expecting us to show no fear and no undue respect. The big challenge though is not really just about Warnes' ability to carry his philosophy and tactics to a higher level, but with the EFL millstone around our transfer dealings we are very limited in what we can offer him to upgrade his squad in the event of promotion and that's a bit of a worry for me. It's not really just about Warne himself stepping up, what level of financial support can we give him to back up progress so far ? The negotiations with the EFL will surely be vital in giving Warne the flexibility that he needs to keep shaping the squad. There is only so much you can so with out-of-contract players from the 'surplus to requirement' pile at other clubs. We've done amazingly well in that regard but it's not really a plan for future progress. Having said all of that, if you'd shown me the current table in the summer I'd have thought you were certifiable ! Hard not to be anything other than chuffed to bits with how it has panned out. Team, Owner and Manager are a credit to the club and themselves at the moment. Premier ram, Phoenix, archram and 5 others 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Didn’t he say that he was discussing taking the job with his friends and basically the conclusion was there aren’t many teams in the EFL which you could say you have a real chance of getting to the premier league , and Derby are one of those clubs I know nothing, Foxy Ram and Ram-Alf 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Four or five players are looking dangerous and likely to score goals instead of the one or two earlier in the season If we start scoring goals from set pieces who knows how good we could become ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alty_Ram said: He's done an absolutely outstanding job so far. Slightly slow start but he's really got us firing now. The only thing we don't have an answer for at this stage is how potentially we will fare if we get promoted. It's perhaps understandably a slight reservation amongst some fans that he has not (yet) managed to get a team to stick having got them promoted to the Championship but that may in part be down to resources at his previous club. Who knows, he may take it in his stride but we certainly need to not carry any inferiority complex with us if we end up facing much better sides. If I'm honest I was a little disappointed in the West Ham game as we seemed to show them a lot of respect and never really laid a glove on them. I was hoping that we'd have a right go but it was a bit of a damp squib in the end. The reality is though that if we get promoted at some stage then there will be teams that we face that will have financial resources that are beyond anything we have due to the obscene size of the parachute payments. Regardless though, these teams were our peers for season after season in recent times and our fans will be expecting us to show no fear and no undue respect. The big challenge though is not really just about Warnes' ability to carry his philosophy and tactics to a higher level, but with the EFL millstone around our transfer dealings we are very limited in what we can offer him to upgrade his squad in the event of promotion and that's a bit of a worry for me. It's not really just about Warne himself stepping up, what level of financial support can we give him to back up progress so far ? The negotiations with the EFL will surely be vital in giving Warne the flexibility that he needs to keep shaping the squad. There is only so much you can so with out-of-contract players from the 'surplus to requirement' pile at other clubs. We've done amazingly well in that regard but it's not really a plan for future progress. Having said all of that, if you'd shown me the current table in the summer I'd have thought you were certifiable ! Hard not to be anything other than chuffed to bits with how it has panned out. Team, Owner and Manager are a credit to the club and themselves at the moment. To be fair when he left Rotherham for us they weren't exactly struggling,I think they were 7th or 8th? i believe his previous problems post promotion was the selling off of his best players each season for budgetary reasons...hopefully not something that we will need to do if we go up this time. Edited February 8, 2023 by kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Derby4Me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Gaspode said: The game against Plymouth was in February so doesn't count towards the January award..... Beating Saudi Arabia FC does though ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Did we ever get an official explanation as to why Paul Warne rams bobble hats aren’t filling the shelves in the club shop? They would make a mint! Derby4Me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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