Mr. P Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) Quantuma : Edited June 22, 2022 by Mr. P w8sey, Premier ram, IslandExile and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Curtains said: It’s not a good phrase for optimism IMO. Appleby is obviously waiting on Q to accept his deal or reject it I’m hoping for the former but if that’s the case why are Q looking at contingency funds for the season Because they'd be foolish not to while there is still a good chance that there will be no deal.... atherstoneram, RoyMac5, RipleyRich and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 14 hours ago, uttoxram75 said: Good post. Parry et al are just lapdogs for the Premier League. The Football league is very marketable and capable of building far better TV deals with a bit of gumption from those running the show. Absolutely, although I wouldn't call the EFL lapdogs for the Premier League. I genuinely feel the Premier League see the EFL as a charity case. If the EFL are lapdogs for anyone then it's Sky - handing them all types of rights to their product for a poor fees in comparison. If they had any sense whatsoever they would shop the TV rights around - Apple, Amazon, Netflix (if they want to go digital) - or split the rights up. Obviously, the fall back is that they could create their own platform (which I do believe they have some infrastructure for already?) and sell to the fans of the clubs. The more content that is created, quality content, will open the doors to substantial revenue growth. The fact is that there is a SUBSTANTIAL amount of people in the UK watching football outside the top 20 and there is an opportunity to turn that into money. The problem now is that the coverage of the Premier League is so vast that people can happily support a team at the other end of the country and feel just as inclusive as though it was their local team. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a substantial fall off in kids supporting their local team over one of the top 6 in this country, regardless of the overseas aspect. Dordogne-Ram and ilkleyram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 So after all this, Mike Ashley still hasn't put in an official offer? Comrade 86 and Boycie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuket Ram Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 20 hours ago, IslandExile said: ? Sshhh. It's a secret. Yeah - don’t jinx it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Ambitious said: Absolutely, although I wouldn't call the EFL lapdogs for the Premier League. I genuinely feel the Premier League see the EFL as a charity case. If the EFL are lapdogs for anyone then it's Sky - handing them all types of rights to their product for a poor fees in comparison. If they had any sense whatsoever they would shop the TV rights around - Apple, Amazon, Netflix (if they want to go digital) - or split the rights up. Obviously, the fall back is that they could create their own platform (which I do believe they have some infrastructure for already?) and sell to the fans of the clubs. The more content that is created, quality content, will open the doors to substantial revenue growth. The fact is that there is a SUBSTANTIAL amount of people in the UK watching football outside the top 20 and there is an opportunity to turn that into money. The problem now is that the coverage of the Premier League is so vast that people can happily support a team at the other end of the country and feel just as inclusive as though it was their local team. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a substantial fall off in kids supporting their local team over one of the top 6 in this country, regardless of the overseas aspect. Isn’t this why Mel got into trouble with the EFL over TV rights ! They never forgave him bringing it up IMO RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk Thrust Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 9 hours ago, kevinhectoring said: Q were appointed as administrators to the club in September and have spent 9 months rambling I phoned the secretary of my local ramblers club, but he just went on and on and on……. Curtains, scout's dad and kevinhectoring 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, rsmini said: The podcast is worth a listen. Mr Appleby mentions connections to Barcelona, Man Utd and naming rights of Spurs stadium That is a great listen, thanks. Some interesting takeaways including Appleby setting up a player representation agency (so being able to sell Derby directly to some decent players) & a commercial marketing division that as you mention has had involvement with Barcelona, Man Utd & Spurs. I also didn't realise the depth of his sports experience - being involved with Detroit Pistons in the late 80s will have been an incredible experience. That was a team that won two NBA Championships & directly denied Michael Jordan & his legendary Chicago Bulls team an NBA title until the early 90s. I'm particularly encouraged by his previous experience with Derby though - he presided over a period starting with the 11 point season & ending in McClaren's first full season in 14/15 when the side should have been promoted back to the Prem. There were mistakes made, not least the money spent in 07/08 by Jewell to try & claim some respectability but the approach thereafter was spot on. GSE appointed a manager who by his own admission was a slow builder & stuck with him despite some dreadful runs (Appleby mentions the 17 defeats in 22 games run in 2010/11). That patience was rewarded with a squad that by 13/14 was ready to launch a promotion assault. I also seem to recall GSE attempting to influence the culture of the league by proposing FFP (how ironic) & Tom Glick was certainly very prominent as a voice amongst Championship clubs. I wouldn't be surprised to see Appleby take a similar role, looking to advise the EFL on how to better leverage its product from a TV rights/commerciality point of view and even from a parachute payment renegotiation perspective. Appleby's humility, obvious hard work & knowledge would also repair Derby's reputation amongst our peers in the EFL - something which in a club dominated EFL, needs to happen. He would be an excellent choice as new Derby owner. I look forward to seeing what the next few days bring in terms of developments. Edited June 22, 2022 by LeedsCityRam Indy, angieram, Ramarena and 15 others 13 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Who knows. David Graham Brown, Ramifications and Derby4Me 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 I'll be honest, I would like Appleby, but I won't sniff at Mike Ashley if it saves the club. Either way, I'm full of nagging doubts about the deals that might be done and it might more than grind as we rebuild our club from near death but several years of zombie existence with only the meager nourishment of at least we're still Derby County Football Club to keep the faith. But we will become strong again. We will return to a better place. The time until we do will make us stronger when we get there. Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Who knows. They're running out of friends to lend them a fiver... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Whoever the owner is, the thing I'm bothered about most is the recruitment team. This department needs to be sorted out. Our recruitment of academy players is very good but senior players it has generally been poor over the last few years. I want to see a football director come in with a better approach. You live a die by your recruitment. If we are to have any success in the following years then this has to be a priority. Will Hughes Hair, Anag Ram, RammingStone66 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 21 hours ago, TheresOnlyWanChope said: If funding isn't secured they can. They won't risk fixtures being incomplete etc. I think you're missing the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 20 hours ago, GenBr said: No, but that is irrelevant. Administration isn't the only reason they need to refuse the transfer of the golden share or to expel us from the league. Totally untrue. They have rules about, to be followed, in admin. Simply being in admin is not a justification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 19 hours ago, atherstoneram said: We were only allowed to fund month to month last season because we went into administration after the season had started,we won't be allowed that luxury this season. Not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: Whoever the owner is, the thing I'm bothered about most is the recruitment team. This department needs to be sorted out. Our recruitment of academy players is very good but senior players it has generally been poor over the last few years. I want to see a football director come in with a better approach. You live a die by your recruitment. If we are to have any success in the following years then this has to be a priority. At times it feels like the recruitment team acts like fans. They scour the leading scorers table, football league team of the week and expiring contracts section then start making enquiries. I never get the feeling we have scouts at non-league games or watch a player for a protracted period. When was our last really inspirational signing of an unknown? Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: Whoever the owner is, the thing I'm bothered about most is the recruitment team. This department needs to be sorted out. Our recruitment of academy players is very good but senior players it has generally been poor over the last few years. I want to see a football director come in with a better approach. You live a die by your recruitment. If we are to have any success in the following years then this has to be a priority. Before now wasn’t it headed up by Schteves son with representation from Morris’ kid on there as well? Farcical Phuket Ram and Rammy03 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipleyRich Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: They're running out of friends to lend them a fiver... More like running out of security for loans. Currently no income stream, and a negative credit score. I would imagine it's a huge challenge. atherstoneram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 My guesses would be Buchanan and Bielik. Ram-Alf, jimtastic56, RadioactiveWaste and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Animal is a Ram said: My guesses would be Buchanan and Bielik. Buchanan and Byrne? EnigmaRam, Wsm-ram, Caerphilly Ram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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