The end

[Spanish]

22 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

It ends when the EFL say that they don’t believe Derby should have a point deduction because if they do say they are implementing a point deduction Derby county will take legal action, that can only be the logical reason this hasn’t happened yet 

the EFL apparently agreed that they were aware of Derby change in amortisation policy and agreed to it happening and allowed it to happen for three years - most of that may well have been Shaun Harvey who has left but he was the EFL at that time.

It would be interesting to see if the EFL could defend itself in a legal setting. 

This is the heart of the problem.  The EFL approach was that if this was compliant with accounting standards then they had no right to challenge. The DC never got to a stage where this was properly discussed given it is such a good defence it still seems odd that we didn't use it more forcefully.  However, we were showing a large P&S loss in breach over the top limit but it was brought in line by the sale of PP and this is where the focus went.  What didn't help was being found guilty of not being transparent with the accounting descriptions

By the time it got to DC2 via LAP there is a clear reference to the fact that the EFL do not sign off accounts and rely on the honesty of the clubs anything else would be' intolerable' for the EFL

DC2 having now arrived at a view that we were no longer compliant with P&S rules, based on Prof Pope's previously ignored evidence, and were fined for non compliance not for default

I think it was Mr Karran from EFL that was primarily involved?

[Rammeister]

Derby go into administration and out of business.

Meanwhile, we all go and follow Alfreton Town, who with the additional support and income over the next few years speed up through the divisions to the Championship.

Spying an opportunity, a wealthy local lifelong supporter of Alfreton takes them over, and gambles lots of money that he’d made early on investing in an internet game on getting them into the Premier League.

The final throw of the dice after being close to getting promoted was to appoint the newly retired England legend Jude Bellingham as manager who took the Town to the Championship playoffs only to lose to Arsenal at Wembley

In a dire financial position Mel Austin the owner, seeks a buyer…

 

[kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong]

4 hours ago, Norman said:

Relegation to League 1 at the end of the season. Record sanctions imposed. No takeover. 

It's worries me that this seems to be the most likely outcome.

[Spanish]

16 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said:

It's worries me that this seems to be the most likely outcome.

Looks like he has achieved one thing, the overheads will be much lower

[Crewton]

9 minutes ago, Spanish said:

Looks like he has achieved one thing, the overheads will be much lower

Is this a reference to the stadium roof proposal? 

[Spanish]

16 minutes ago, Crewton said:

Is this a reference to the stadium roof proposal? 

also playing on Chadd park, as the stadium will become a concert venue with a overhead roof

[Dean (hick) Saunders]

 

 

[CBRammette]

2 hours ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said:

It's worries me that this seems to be the most likely outcome.

Yes the replies were more humorous than I hoped then this!!!

[Carl Sagan]

8 hours ago, erathirea said:

Probably with the inevitable heat death of the Universe.

Oh - you meant the situation at Derby?

 

Probably around 7.5 billion years time when the sun absorbs the earth.

 

7 hours ago, Unlucky Alf said:

Professor Brian Cox says around 4 billion years time, By which time Steve Buckley's Dog will have got his email reply from DCFC ?

 

6 hours ago, Mostyn6 said:

I need this validating. @Carl Saganover to you old bean. 

What a question! In my youth the traditional figure was the Sun was 4.5 billion years old and would stay roughly main sequence for another 4.5 billion years. I always thought the symmetry was odd, and nowadays the estimates have gone up, so you see between 5 billion and 7.5 billion depending on who you talk to. However, the bad news is that the Sun expanding to beyond Earth's orbit may not prove to be the end of our embargo, as people are busy finding ways to move Earth 15% further out allowing things to continue. One way we can do that is with around a  million targeted comet fly-bys.

So, would heat death of the Universe finally end the embargo? Maybe not. Roger Penrose who recently won the Nobel Prize for physics has a new theory called conformal cyclic cosmology where the Universe turns out to be neverending, but rather repeats on different scales. This might mean the EFL sanctions against us grow ever bigger as we enter each new aeon of the Universe. 

Edited September 6, 2021 by Carl Sagan

[CBRammette]

7 hours ago, ShoreRam said:

It is.

And when has anyone on here been able to control the direction a thread takes? How many times do you go into a key topic hoping for an update and find 20 pages of puns. Isnt that randomness the joy of this forum? 

[B4ev6is]

Stick two fingers up and get promotion out of this damn league.

[jono]

7 hours ago, Sparkle said:

It ends when the EFL say that they don’t believe Derby should have a point deduction because if they do say they are implementing a point deduction Derby county will take legal action, that can only be the logical reason this hasn’t happened yet 

the EFL apparently agreed that they were aware of Derby change in amortisation policy and agreed to it happening and allowed it to happen for three years - most of that may well have been Shaun Harvey who has left but he was the EFL at that time.

It would be interesting to see if the EFL could defend itself in a legal setting. 

Whatever the truth of the matter is … and none of us know … I remain certain that the EFL has not applied it’s detective rigour to any other club with anything like the same degree of tenacity, detail and b minded doggedness. Whether that counts for anything in a legal setting I have no idea. 

[atherstoneram]

37 minutes ago, B4ev6is said:

Stick two fingers up and get promotion out of this damn league.

We've tried that and it didn't work,that's why we are in the position we now find ourselves in.

[B4ev6is]

10 minutes ago, atherstoneram said:

We've tried that and it didn't work,that's why we are in the position we now find ourselves in.

I want stick to efl and that utter banker gibson.

[ramit]

In the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make

[Abu Derby]

The damage already done will take years to rectify. 
Once the punishment is administered the new owners will need to instigate a five year rebuilding plan just to get us back where we were 2 or3 years ago. 

[Shipley Ram]

2 hours ago, Carl Sagan said:

Roger Penrose who recently won the Nobel Prize for physics has a new theory called conformal cyclic cosmology where the Universe turns out to be neverending, but rather repeats on different scales. This might mean the EFL sanctions against us grow ever bigger as we enter each new aeon of the Universe. 

I'm trying to read a Roger Penrose book at the moment, it's tough going. The 120 pages of the mathmatical appendixes he keeps refering to make the EFL judgment as easy read.

[GB SPORTS]

2 hours ago, CBRammette said:

And when has anyone on here been able to control the direction a thread takes? How many times do you go into a key topic hoping for an update and find 20 pages of puns. Isnt that randomness the joy of this forum? 

Is it?

[Gaspode]

9 minutes ago, I DONT MIND said:

Is it?

Who knows? - and if anyone does, how?

[Steve How Hard?]

This the end. A big, throbbing ? end.