Live football thread.

[SKRam]

Happy for DM.

Bannans pitch map was ridiculous. Fair play to him for driving that team forward. 

[TuffLuff]

Highlight was Bannan telling someone he wanted the captain armband on before going up the stairs, get up the stairs ya bloody arse!

[cannable]

Happy for Big Dave and a 90+ point team out of the division.

Every single fan that waved us off, both times I’ve been to Hillsborough actually, can suck a trump.

[Gritstone Ram]

14 hours ago, GenBr said:

Id say zero chance. They paid a piddly little fine to the EFL and id guess that means case closed as far as those excellent administrators are concerned

About £3m was the sum paid. FFP only applies to clubs that names begin with Derby.

[SKRam]

The Live Football Thread will now take a short break……….Till Saturday when we can do another red and blue Wembley 

[IslandExile]

I just hope the racist moron that abused Darren Moore after the first leg was banned and missed both the dramatic second leg and the final.

[Mucker1884]

22 minutes ago, strawhillram said:

Lo and he was known henceforth as Wankeytowel 

Which sounds awfully like "Wankit Owl.

 

Either way, it ain't a good look for him!  🤣

[Jimbo Ram]

Again the key decision went their way. Pleased for DM though.

[Srg]

1 hour ago, Bris Vegas said:

The fault lies with humans, not technology.

This is the most pointless line anyone ever trots out about VAR.

Splitting hairs between the system and those using it isn’t the “well, actually” you think it is. VAR and the officials using it are one and the same, it’s a blanket term. 

The system its implementation and use are human driven, and the choice around how to apply the technology is human driven. It’s all the same thing. 

Facts are all still the same. The officials are awful, and VAR hasn’t helped a thing. In fact, it’s made it worse. Now, rather than blaming the referee or the assistants, you get to blame those same 3 people plus some hidden refereeing overlord who’s managed to watch it in slow motion and still arrived at a pointless decision… all whilst sucking the joy out of the moment.

[Ram-Alf]

7 minutes ago, Srg said:

This is the most pointless line anyone ever trots out about VAR.

Splitting hairs between the system and those using it isn’t the “well, actually” you think it is. VAR and the officials using it are one and the same, it’s a blanket term. 

The system its implementation and use are human driven, and the choice around how to apply the technology is human driven. It’s all the same thing. 

Facts are all still the same. The officials are awful, and VAR hasn’t helped a thing. In fact, it’s made it worse. Now, rather than blaming the referee or the assistants, you get to blame those same 3 people plus some hidden refereeing overlord who’s managed to watch it in slow motion and still arrived at a pointless decision… all whilst sucking the joy out of the moment.

The consensus by those pundits was 1, It was a penalty...correct imo, 2, Yellow card at most for the tackle...correct again...imo

VAR is there to help the official, The official only gets to see it once, While the man at Stockley Park has as many views as he likes, If you kick a mans lag while challenging for the ball in the penalty area and the official says...play on, Then the VAR operator should at least send the Ref to the screen...he didn't...as we now know.

Again where was VAR when the Ref shown a red card, I hope when we saw Howard Webb looking at his phone he was watching replays of both the incidents.

And lastly, I hope Barnsley make a report to whoever about the incidents above, They'll not get owt for it as the games gone...a game lost by the persons who are there to be impartial 😡

 

 

[RadioactiveWaste]

But why have 1 man get it wrong in an instant when you can have a whole team to get it wrong whilst everyone waits around for ages?

Go back to the refs word is final, suck it up. If it's a mistake, it's a mistake, that's just the game. If there's too much money depending on it, that;s the fault of the silly sods who put so much money into the game.

[G STAR RAM]

25 minutes ago, Srg said:

This is the most pointless line anyone ever trots out about VAR.

Splitting hairs between the system and those using it isn’t the “well, actually” you think it is. VAR and the officials using it are one and the same, it’s a blanket term. 

The system its implementation and use are human driven, and the choice around how to apply the technology is human driven. It’s all the same thing. 

Facts are all still the same. The officials are awful, and VAR hasn’t helped a thing. In fact, it’s made it worse. Now, rather than blaming the referee or the assistants, you get to blame those same 3 people plus some hidden refereeing overlord who’s managed to watch it in slow motion and still arrived at a pointless decision… all whilst sucking the joy out of the moment.

Lets be honest, its just keeping in with the way that football has processed.

Other than the back pass rule, there have been literally zero developments that have advanced in the game of football in the last 40 years.

Its all decisions taken by people in suits that don't really understand the emotion of the game. 

 

[PistoldPete]

Wednesday have been lucky really in the playoffs. Lucky they didn't play us due to the dodgy ref decisions in the final game, and lucky they were playing against 10 for so long against us. Lucky that Peterborough bottled it against them. And lucky to be playing only 10 men today.   Even so happy they are up, Id rather have Peterborough as rivals nest year than Wednesday. And happy for Big Dave. 

[Bris Vegas]

1 hour ago, Srg said:

This is the most pointless line anyone ever trots out about VAR.

Splitting hairs between the system and those using it isn’t the “well, actually” you think it is. VAR and the officials using it are one and the same, it’s a blanket term. 

The system its implementation and use are human driven, and the choice around how to apply the technology is human driven. It’s all the same thing. 

Facts are all still the same. The officials are awful, and VAR hasn’t helped a thing. In fact, it’s made it worse. Now, rather than blaming the referee or the assistants, you get to blame those same 3 people plus some hidden refereeing overlord who’s managed to watch it in slow motion and still arrived at a pointless decision… all whilst sucking the joy out of the moment.

The technology is fine. Because it helps with black and white decisions. There are no gray areas when it comes to offside, ball going over the line. It should always be 100% correct.

Where it fails is with subjective decisions. As mentioned, humans make the decision. And they still can’t seem to get it right. And as you say, it sucks the joy out of the game.

Getting rid of VAR wont help with the regard to poor decisions. The on-field officials will still continue to make mistakes, and they won’t be 100% accurate on the black and white decisions either. So all in all, scrap VAR and the officiating becomes worse. 

[Inverurie Ram]

2 hours ago, G STAR RAM said:

Lets be honest, its just keeping in with the way that football has processed.

Other than the back pass rule, there have been literally zero developments that have advanced in the game of football in the last 40 years.

Its all decisions taken by people in suits that don't really understand the emotion of the game. 

 

Unfortunately there are millions of fans that wear suits or the corporate equivalent at work all week, and either watch games from their sofas and or turn up for live games that don’t understand the emotion of the game either and became attracted to football when it sold it’s soul from a working class game to the dirty corrupt money grabbing greedy unrecognisable game it is now whilst they continue to spout all their clueless drivel in the work place, in the trendy bars, on social media and at grass roots football where their own kids fall about like feathers and all the rest.

[Kooklaram]

2 hours ago, G STAR RAM said:

Lets be honest, its just keeping in with the way that football has processed.

Other than the back pass rule, there have been literally zero developments that have advanced in the game of football in the last 40 years.

Its all decisions taken by people in suits that don't really understand the emotion of the game. 

 

Other than the back pass rule, there have been literally zero developments

This has been on my mind  for ages, So what rules or changes can we come up with?

How about physios/medics allowed on the pitch without stopping the game like Rugby

 

[Andicis]

18 minutes ago, Inverurie Ram said:

Unfortunately there are millions of fans that wear suits or the corporate equivalent at work all week, and either watch games from their sofas and or turn up for live games that don’t understand the emotion of the game either and became attracted to football when it sold it’s soul from a working class game to the dirty corrupt money grabbing greedy unrecognisable game it is now whilst they continue to spout all their clueless drivel in the work place, in the trendy bars, on social media and at grass roots football where their own kids fall about like feathers and all the rest.

Isn't this just a different form of snobbery? Grow up. s*** take. 

Edited May 29, 2023 by Andicis

[AndyinLiverpool]

23 minutes ago, Inverurie Ram said:

Unfortunately there are millions of fans that wear suits or the corporate equivalent at work all week, and either watch games from their sofas and or turn up for live games that don’t understand the emotion of the game either and became attracted to football when it sold it’s soul from a working class game to the dirty corrupt money grabbing greedy unrecognisable game it is now whilst they continue to spout all their clueless drivel in the work place, in the trendy bars, on social media and at grass roots football where their own kids fall about like feathers and all the rest.

Yeah. Anyone who wears a suit is an emotionally stunted automaton 

[JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta]

On 29/05/2023 at 22:13, Inverurie Ram said:

Unfortunately there are millions of fans that wear suits or the corporate equivalent at work all week, and either watch games from their sofas and or turn up for live games that don’t understand the emotion of the game either and became attracted to football when it sold it’s soul from a working class game to the dirty corrupt money grabbing greedy unrecognisable game it is now whilst they continue to spout all their clueless drivel in the work place, in the trendy bars, on social media and at grass roots football where their own kids fall about like feathers and all the rest.

Yeah it was way better when you couldn't take kids to the game because there was a risk they'd get wrapped up in some infantile hooligan violence and fans had to basically be kept in cages to prevent mass brawls.

Oh the good old days, eh?

Football has serious structural and financial issues but let's not delude ourselves that what came before was automatically better. I wear a suit to work but I can take my daughter to Pride Park knowing that she'll be safe and have a fun day out regardless of the result. If that makes me part of the problem in your eyes then so be it.

Personally, I think your post was largely drivel.

[Malagaram]

On 29/05/2023 at 19:04, IslandExile said:

I just hope the racist moron that abused Darren Moore after the first leg was banned and missed both the dramatic second leg and the final.

Dont you think that morons havent the intelligence to watch a football match on television