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What a day!
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Think someone is going on twitter claiming one of our itk’s are ssying things they aren’t. Just to make you anyone aware who might want to have a word. Had been seen by over 3,000 accounts when I saw it
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Anything positive? Serious only
TuffLuff replied to Ram a lamb a ding dong's topic in Derby County Forum
I think Saturdays game might be the first one on this run where Warne could have gone in to Moor Farm today with a video showing them ‘what they’ve done good and what they’ve done wrong’ because they weren’t terrible on Saturday despite the reaction of the fans. We created clear chances, had players ok the right positions and really should have scored. For me it was a lack of conviction/belief, when players are striking the ball that stopped us scoring rather than ability*. That’s something you can coach out of players in my opinion. But yeah aside that we’re ****** -
I wouldn’t be surprised re: Barry, when talking to fans from other clubs I get the impression quite a few have been told they are close to getting him with no clear answer from Villa. I get the impression this hasn’t been handled very well by Villa tbh
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Bloody hell we might need him for next season the way things are going!
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I really struggle to think of where I sit with Warne right now. I fully get the idea we played ok today to be honest, I don’t think a team that’s hitting the post or getting shots off like we are is playing poorly either…but I don’t think we get in a position and player looks like they are going to score. We are devoid of conviction. Is that Warnes fault? I tend to think it’s this weird mix of recruitment, this weird analytics thing we have seemed to adopted and a bit of Warne’s management team and that somewhere it’s not quite working within unison. Probably because, as I’m writing right now, I’d maybe say it’s ended up being too much too quick and it’s impacted our season beyond repair. I’m not defending Warne too much, I think there’s been critical decisions made that have been wrong. Most notably is that he’s been over reliant on players I’d see as his favourites who haven’t contributed enough in the system, most notably Wilson and Yates. As a similar point he’s under valued other pmayers who have direct attributes this side has lacked, most notably Bradley’s leadership, Blackett-Taylor’s pace and I’d go as far as to say that bit of nous Collins has. I’m not saying they should have been regular starters, but we’ve had a starting 11’s where everyone is too similar and in truth that was my first thought today. We’ve got players who are decent at this level, but not enough of them can dig you out a hole. Another thing I’d point out is that there is such little leadership, a lack of a proper captain on the pitch and nothing really inspiring from the touchlines either. I think recruitment is the biggest one though, I’m not convinced we are getting our first choice targets and I can’t tell you why that is aside budget? Dare I say we have to look to those above Warne or is it something else. I’m starting to get a feeling that championship football really moved on in the two seasons we left and whilst we aren’t an attractive club for players, we as fans don’t see that reality either? If we can stay up this year there’s no fast track idea to getting ourselves up this league, it’ll be a slow slog with teams that don’t play perfect football and more square pegs in round holes. I guess what I’m trying to say is, that whilst others think there’s a big decision to make now I unfortunately think the big decision has already been made with our recruitment/analytics AI path. I personally don’t see the idea that if Warne goes we get that extra bit of quality out of these players, if I’m wrong I’m happy to be on here and say I was wrong
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From today, with the players we’ve been linked to I’m gonna guess that we are far down the queue of suitors for Louie Barry. The other point I’d make re: the fee for the 28 year old Norwegian big lad, is similar to watch Richie Barker said about CBT earlier in the season. Ie, what’s £800k or whatever if that player keeps you in the championship and allows us to build again next season?
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Maybe a deal isn’t as close as one source on one website is saying it is? Its all interpretation and not factual. As I said before it probably won’t impact any deal, but also how many ‘frustrated’ posts will we then be wading through on here and social media on Monday because nothings happened on a deal that no one really knows how ‘done’ it is.
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I know we can’t blame itkers on here who I appreciate are trying to help, but judging by social media we’ve probably just alerted a lot of people (both fans and other clubs) that Derby haven’t yet completed a deal for Harvey Knibbs. A move that isn’t necessarily on everyone’s radar or has been ‘in the press’. We are all desperate for news and for all we know itll be fine, but I can’t be the only that sees an issue here. Again not necessarily blaming anyone here, but those who are sharing the info elsewhere for a few clicks then maybe think on!
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What Ed Dawes has written is pretty much been the overall opinion expressed from Radio Derby as a collective for the last month, kinda shows a few up that they are now taking issue with it because the name under the article reads Dawes rather than from Dietrich or any of the match summerisers. Ed sees Derby Home and Away and aside the odd outburst his analysis on a game is generally on the money. Radio Derby continues to be an excellent resource for Derby fans both local and those of us a little further out with the Rams Daily podcasts. It’s not always perfect, but I don’t think most clubs get the level of detail/discussion via their local radio service than Derby get.
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I’ve got to say though I’m somewhat baffled by some of the debates I glance at on here nowerdays and how they tend to see people taking quite OTT opinions either positively or negatively without maybe appreciating the truth is somewhere in the middle. I hear it on Radio Derby too in fairness, but what concerns me is that I think we are putting ourselves in a false sense of security because we aren’t giving ourselves a real true reflection. The Windass goal is a small example of it but probably epitomises it quite well. I was there yesterday and of course Zettestrom isn’t at fault for it, the luck was on Wednesdays side yesterday and it’s a ten to one chance that he actually scores it. The other side to that though, is like many of our players during the game, he was slow to react to what was happening in front of him and once he did he wasn’t in a position to get back as quickly as possible. Also, Windass isn’t taking that shot unless someone has spotted that Zettestrom is either gambling with how far he is off his line or just isn’t quite on his game. So no, he isn’t at fault, but you can still learn from it so there’s no point dismissing it either.
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As a general rule I think loan players who pick up injuries on loan tend to go back to the parent club for their recovery. For one, in theory there are better facilities but also I guess it’s in the parents club interest to make sure their asset is fully recovers and isn’t rushed back to fitness. I could be wrong but I think that’s right and if so, I wouldn’t read too much into it!
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Dare I say, I think if he was playing tonight then we’d get something out of that game. Not that our midfield were poor, I just don’t think we leave the space in front of the defence like what happened for the goal and I think he keeps Ampadu and Tanaka a lot busier as the second half goes on. If he’s anything like fit by mid Jan then I would gamble on keeping him around.
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Whilst I appreciate what they are trying to say I find myself increasingly irked about how over used the word success is used in regards to Championship managers. Danny Röhl has done a very good job at Wednesday, but success suggests being successful in like a promotion at least?
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He lacks nous and it comes across in his teams. Against Sheff Wed and Leeds today, we work so hard to get the ball back when out of possession but because we don’t try and slow down the game or frustrate the opposition with the ball we give it back and let them build momentum. Happened in the second half on Sunday and in the first half today, we conceaded four goals because we don’t try to control the game or impose a style of play.