Mucker1884 Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 From hereon to be known as Leave Buchanan and Nothin' Byrne. God riddance to them both. #This ship ain't sinking! ? Scoot Ram, GenBr, norwichram and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, NottsRammy said: I think the byrneing question is why would you want to move at byrnes age ? . Confidence in Liam perhaps . Buc i can understand more he is young and wanted but byrne that starts to ask some questions to me , which we might find out as the season gets underway ? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poynton ram Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 We should be mailing Parry en masse and asking what he is going to do about this. Would expect the EFL to be protecting the interests of one of its members. Then again the EFL probably couldn’t give a toss hintonsboots and SaffyRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 The EFL are supporting us in this. Whilst the TUPE regulations are law of the land, they surely weren't written with footballers in mind! We have already seen that the EFL aren't above applying their own rules above the law when it suits them. I think this is one such example. Crewton and whiteroseram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, angieram said: The EFL are supporting us in this. Whilst the TUPE regulations are law of the land, they surely weren't written with footballers in mind! We have already seen that the EFL aren't above applying their own rules above the law when it suits them. I think this is one such example. Let's hope so. As stated many times on here, the TUPE regulations relate to employment contacts not football governed player registrations. The registrations should not be transferred until compensation is received. Crewton, RoyMac5, angieram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 What an absolute Byrne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 8 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: They were saying that last season and when push comes to shove it made no difference to 70% of them. I distinctly remember Morrison being on the Radio giving it ' happiest I've been, most I've played, Love it here etc etc. Next year he'll be on a bench getting splinters and oiling his knees for 10 minute cameos. The contracts being torn up by two snakes is the final nail of decency in football for me. You may get a couple of players in any batch of 20 that have any proper loyalty if your lucky. I get what you're saying and it may be you're right. And I've been duped. To me it genuinely feels different this time, with the weight of admin lifted, but I could well have been suckered again. A reason for possibly thinking not is that we remain under the strictures of the EFL's approved business plan, so I expect Championship clubs could pay some of these guys more, but they've still chosen us. Gee SCREAMER !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamUltraRam Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) From the last few seconds of his interview after being awarded Players Player Of The Season "I know how big this club is to the city of Derby, & I'm proud to be a part of it" Apparently not proud enough to stay here though Nathan, or at least let us benefit financially from you leaving https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2022/05/byrne-delighted-to-claim-players-player-of-the-season-award Edited July 10, 2022 by SamUltraRam Crewton, Andicis and Ambitious 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 @angieramand @Carnerosummed up the gist of what i was going to say. When Keogh was sacked, his appeal was heard by a football tribunal, not and Employment Tribunal. When Boro made their claim, the EFL said it had to be settled as a football debt, not through a Court of Law. Both Footballers and clubs might want to have things both ways, but either they're all football disputes, or they're all legal disputes. I think it's also probably true that we're better off without carrying Byrne's wages and, given that we bought him for a small fee from Wigan, I'd have no issue if he left for a small fee, but there's a right way to go about it and neither he nor Buchanan have done that. Carnero, Steve How Hard?, SaffyRam and 6 others 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF Ram Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 If they are allowed to leave, what would stop the other contracted players at the time doing the same? Or does the fact that Bird, Knight, Sibley etc have stayed, trained and played mean that they have accepted the transfer to the new company and they now couldn’t realistically turn around and justify leaving? MM loved a loophole and it looks like it has passed on to some of the players. Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 39 minutes ago, big bad ram said: If they are allowed to leave, what would stop the other contracted players at the time doing the same? Or does the fact that Bird, Knight, Sibley etc have stayed, trained and played mean that they have accepted the transfer to the new company and they now couldn’t realistically turn around and justify leaving? MM loved a loophole and it looks like it has passed on to some of the players. That's a good point. I'd assume you're correct, otherwise they're playing without a contract and effectively uninsured. It perhaps puts a question-mark over Bielek, though the reason given for his absence yesterday is feasible - he did suffer a 'sore knee' injury whilst away with Poland because it was reported in the Polish press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomG Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Is a dangerous precedent being set here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1976 Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 48 minutes ago, big bad ram said: If they are allowed to leave, what would stop the other contracted players at the time doing the same? Or does the fact that Bird, Knight, Sibley etc have stayed, trained and played mean that they have accepted the transfer to the new company and they now couldn’t realistically turn around and justify leaving? MM loved a loophole and it looks like it has passed on to some of the players. I think it’s the automatic renewal the club took up on their contracts that they are contesting. Bird, Knight and Bielik etc. contracts already have a year or years left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcfcsr92 Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 4 hours ago, angieram said: The EFL are supporting us in this. Whilst the TUPE regulations are law of the land, they surely weren't written with footballers in mind! We have already seen that the EFL aren't above applying their own rules above the law when it suits them. I think this is one such example. Even if the EFL did step in I want him gone after this get his wages gone and get somebody who actually appreciates our club and wants to play for our club! Let's move on from these players! We are attaching better players then what Byrne is anyway so let's hope we can do it with his position! Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dcfcsr92 said: Even if the EFL did step in I want him gone after this get his wages gone and get somebody who actually appreciates our club and wants to play for our club! Let's move on from these players! We are attaching better players then what Byrne is anyway so let's hope we can do it with his position! He’s acted poorly but let’s not go down the road that he wasn’t any good. Probably our best player or one of over the last 2 or 3 seasons… angieram, May Contain Nuts and Ramifications 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 He doesn’t want to be here so, don’t let the door hit you on the arse on the way out. Contracts mean nothing to some players and their agents when it suits them. Had he been injured and unable to play, would he still expect his contract to be honoured?! Of course he would and so he should, however he is fit and able to play and wants to move on for free. You Byrne are an absolute disgrace, hope you never darken our door again Carnero, strawhillram, Rambling and 4 others 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcfcsr92 Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: He’s acted poorly but let’s not go down the road that he wasn’t any good. Probably our best player or one of over the last 2 or 3 seasons… I agree last season or 2 but considering the situation we been it doesn't say a great deal in all honesty don't get me wrong he's a good championship player but he's nothing special especially at the age 30 never going to be more then a championship player! not like Buchanan where he has his whole future ahead I still disagree with what he's done Ted McMinn Football Genius, RoyMac5 and Carnero 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Another one to add to the Bamfords list alongside Buchanan. Thinks he’s too good for League One despite spending most of his career down here. Duck off you absolute disgrace Nathan Byrne. You deserve all the vitriol you will receive on your next visit to Pride Park. Carnero and Ted McMinn Football Genius 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dcfcsr92 said: I agree last season or 2 but considering the situation we been it doesn't say a great deal in all honesty don't get me wrong he's a good championship player but he's nothing special especially at the age 30 never going to be more then a championship player! not like Buchanan where he has his whole future ahead I still disagree with what he's done I do too but then saying he isn’t any good isn’t the case is it. I hope that we get some kind of fee for both. On the subject of being any good, I didn’t actually rate Buchanan and never have. Nothing to do with him acting improperly ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstaRam Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Forgive and forget I guess? Always seemed to give his best on the field but greed must have hit him. No point spending energy on players like that but might serve as a good reminder of how loyal some of the other players in the squad actually is. Knight, Sibley, Bielik et.al earns their praise for being a part of the rebuild. Ted McMinn Football Genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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