kevinhectoring Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 38 minutes ago, alexxxxx said: I kind of get it... But equally i think they need to be careful that the EFL doesn't overreach here. With the football creditors rule etc I do wonder whether the government might be upset with this, if it is seen to put another obstacle in the way of a legal process. There is also the very obvious conflict of interest issue. Q were right to threaten to challenge the 12 points, and the -9 presumably reflected that they dropped the threat (could have been more than -9). And I would think the EFl understood Q’s position. The falling out over the football creditors issue was very damaging though - it was clear EFL were furious especially over Q’s statement about inconsistency with insolvency rules. So first MM fell out with the EFL, then Q did ! Don’t think either did us any favours But the point about conflicts is a good one - the EFL position might be: ‘we need IPs with specialist expertise’ But there’s a danger they will get admins who don’t sufficiently challenge EFL Either way I don’t think Q will be focusing on this part of their business going forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaRam Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, YouRams said: Dangerous, basically they're getting admins on their pay books that clubs have no choice but to go with, they can't find their own that will speak up against the EFL like Quant have. EFL needs to be investigated and overturned quickly they're literally turning into the football Mafia doing what they please, again why I'm so ****** off with Mel he had them on the ropes and just gave up. I hear what you are saying and I do agree. However, on the flip side we currently have ex owners who can and have ran the clubs into the ground, who then can appoint the admin. Quant haven't acted in the clubs best interests I don't feel like, however our ex owner, whose judgement I don't agree with, says these are the right people. That doesn't sit quite right with me also. There is a middle ground somewhere, I'm sure more people who know more than me on the matter can say where that is. YouRams and ariotofmyown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Either way I don’t think Q will be focusing on this part of their business going forward I've seen suggestions that the bigger insolvency companies just don't want to touch football clubs any more (not just Derby, all football clubs) because the fees they get just don't justify the extra hassle - you've got fans demanding press conferences every 5 minutes, and questioning your expenses, the EFL/FA/EPL etc getting involved, on top of the structure of football clubs (lots of expensive intangible assets you can't easily sell, a stadium that's only valuable with a club to play there etc). If the EFL start putting off the smaller companies too, there's a real risk that there's nobody left. kevinhectoring, i-Ram and May Contain Nuts 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich84 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, ScubaRam said: .......... Quant haven't acted in the clubs best interests I don't feel like, ......... They aren't there to act in the clubs best interests, as has been mentioned dozens of times, they are there to get the creditors the best deal they can, and if that had of been liquidation they would have gone that route..... Crewton, RAM1966, Turk Thrust and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alty_Ram Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Me... staring at DCFCFANS since I woke up this morning.. RoyMac5, SirBrian, EtoileSportiveDeDerby and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, cosmic said: “The report mentions the criticism Quantuma have received for their decision to launch a legal challenge against the 21-points deduction to Wayne Rooney’s side. The challenge was unsuccessful.” So not overhauling to help clubs, only to help themselves. Typical. And it wasn't against the 21, it was the initial 12. A legal challenge we were forced to drop as the EFL would have dragged out the P&S situtation. Crewton, Kathcairns, RoyMac5 and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberram Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 I love a good extension RadioactiveWaste and RAM1966 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 "Do what we want or you won't be on the approved list next time" I know nuffin, Crewton, Kathcairns and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 But there's no-one left ffs! ? JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta, David Graham Brown, SFox1993 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 It’s all very quiet surely they’d be some noise if it was today Derby4Me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Topram said: It’s all very quiet surely they’d be some noise if it was today “It’s all gone quiet over here” oh hang on think I got that wrong somehow ???♂️? Topram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Could he be first to leak completion of the deal I wonder (hope). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Topram said: It’s all very quiet surely they’d be some noise if it was today Why? If it is to be today it seems quite possible that there could be some formalities still to be finalised during the day and so I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t hear anything until late afternoon. Sadly though, I fear the announcement might be another short extension or worse still, CK announces that due to issues to issues he feels can’t be resolved he is withdrawing his bid. Let’s hope it’s not the latter - if I was a betting man (and was forced to place a bet) I wouldn’t be placing any money on this outcome. Kathcairns and Derby4Me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, Carnero said: Could he be first to leak completion of the deal I wonder (hope). "That's the plan" Yeah, Kirchner already told us that. Is there any news? What a fraud IslandExile, ThePrisoner, rammieib and 3 others 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckoBeast Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 It’s a massive day but hard to be optimistic. All I can see is another extension to the extension but hope in wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Carnero said: Could he be first to leak completion of the deal I wonder (hope). Better sign up to his Patreon then! ?? Edited May 16, 2022 by RoyMac5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 28 minutes ago, Topram said: It’s all very quiet surely they’d be some noise if it was today Silence is usually golden, no news is good etc etc. Kathcairns and Derby4Me 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 25 minutes ago, Carnero said: Could he be first to leak completion of the deal I wonder (hope). Nixon would be better on Complan. David Graham Brown, Comrade 86 and S8TY 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 40 minutes ago, Carnero said: Could he be first to leak completion of the deal I wonder (hope). I predict there will be news today! Mostyn6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 12 hours ago, Ram1988 said: Could there be a situation when MA buys PP (which becomes the sports direct arena) and rents it to CK who buys the club? Possible in theory I guess but doubt Ashley has any interest in that I think he’ll find another club to buy before he’s much older Ram1988 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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