Eatonram Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 who was being libelled? Is it the usual anti Mel stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Can we just clarify, is it Mel/DCFC who we shouldn't libel, or is it a general we should say libelous things on the forum? Because.... RAM1966 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Eatonram said: who was being libelled? Is it the usual anti Mel stuff? If I told you then that would be libel. RAM1966 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 2 hours ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: You may be right but we are the only ones with it listed on the embargo tracker on the EFL site, so until we get it removed we are buggered. The HMRC deferral due to COVID was brought into place to appease cash flow problems with business all over the country. The deadline to pay it back has since past, by quite a long time now and out of the ENTIRE football league pyramid we are the only ones with the charge hanging over us as to have not paid it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 23 minutes ago, Boycie said: @rynny and @ThePrisoner @Boycie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk Thrust Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, TuffLuff said: If I told you then that would be libel. Hmm, think it would be slander. ? Birdyabroad and RAM1966 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Turk Thrust said: Hmm, think it would be slander. ? Stop libelling me! RAM1966 and Turk Thrust 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 This will be my 1st foray into our City for the match for 18 months, I'll be in a boozer with others, Unfortunately the TV will be smaller than I have at home, So I have bought some new glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk Thrust Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 21 minutes ago, TuffLuff said: Stop libelling me! People do get confused with libel and slander. Basically if I told someone that you are a murdering thief who has carnal knowledge of your aunt then it’s slander, but if I published it, it would be libel. Unless it’s true. I think. It doesn’t help that I’m sitting in my garden quaffing my third pint of Guinness West Indies Porter. TuffLuff, Carl Sagan, hintonsboots and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindernRam Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 34 minutes ago, Turk Thrust said: It doesn’t help that I’m sitting in my garden quaffing my third pint of Guinness West Indies Porter. If you are really that bored you can help me mow the lawn, but I want dead straightlines or her indoors will complain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 44 minutes ago, Turk Thrust said: People do get confused with libel and slander. Basically if I told someone that you are a murdering thief who has carnal knowledge of your aunt then it’s slander, but if I published it, it would be libel. Unless it’s true. I think. It doesn’t help that I’m sitting in my garden quaffing my third pint of Guinness West Indies Porter. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 56 minutes ago, Turk Thrust said: People do get confused with libel and slander. Basically if I told someone that you are a murdering thief who has carnal knowledge of your aunt then it’s slander, but if I published it, it would be libel. Unless it’s true. I think. It doesn’t help that I’m sitting in my garden quaffing my third pint of Guinness West Indies Porter. Hope you’ve got TMS on mate. Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 3 hours ago, rynny said: Unfortunately I have had to remove recent posts due to a couple of posts being potentially libellous, and the conversation being part of those original posts. This doesn't mean that if your post has been removed that you have posted anything that you shouldn't have. Boooooo. @Davidcan afford it if he slashes his Apple products budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Unlucky Alf said: This will be my 1st foray into our City for the match for 18 months, I'll be in a boozer with others, Unfortunately the TV will be smaller than I have at home, So I have bought some new glasses. They will definitely steam up when you put your mask on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonwright Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Turk Thrust said: People do get confused with libel and slander. Basically if I told someone that you are a murdering thief who has carnal knowledge of your aunt then it’s slander, but if I published it, it would be libel. Unless it’s true. I think. It doesn’t help that I’m sitting in my garden quaffing my third pint of Guinness West Indies Porter. Yeah basically libel and slander are two forms of defamation. Libel broadly refers to the written word (traditionally newspapers but now also websites, even tweets) while slander refers to the spoken word (including I think radio broadcasts, as well as stuff said in the street). You defame someone if what you say would tend to reduce their standing in the eyes of a reasonable person. Interestingly you can still technically libel/slander someone even if what you say is true. It's just that truth is a complete defence, so there would be no point someone trying to sue you - except that in British courts the burden of proof is on the defendant, so you would have to prove what you said was true, rather than your target having to prove it was false. Which is annoying and probably unfair. Edited August 25, 2021 by vonwright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 why don't we just have a libel thread where all the libelous posts get put? vonwright, RAM1966 and TuffLuff 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: They will definitely steam up when you put your mask on It's a shame I never put them on when posting this, It should be on the Derby Vs the dogs thread kevinhectoring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Ambitious said: The HMRC deferral due to COVID was brought into place to appease cash flow problems with business all over the country. The deadline to pay it back has since past, by quite a long time now and out of the ENTIRE football league pyramid we are the only ones with the charge hanging over us as to have not paid it back. Sorry but this is simply incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 45 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: why don't we just have a libel thread where all the libelous posts get put? Because there'd be nothing left on the main forum ? RadioactiveWaste and 48 hours 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Curtains said: The EFL are drawing this out to the point of tedium. Its just plain and simple bullying of Derby County. We were the ones who waited until the last possible date to submit the accounts and then still didn't do it. You can't blame the EFL for our own failures atherstoneram and RadioactiveWaste 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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