Eddie Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, roboto said: EFL usually go by Uranus… I'll set 'em up.... roboto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 5 hours ago, ossieram said: Is everybody still guessing at what has happened and the outcome, or have we actually seen any real facts yet? Careful, buddy! ossieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 2 hours ago, BramcoteRam84 said: And in the case of outcome 2, even if this materialises, if they cannot deduct points for an FFP breach, they will make sure it takes them until after the transfer window has shut to confirm this. They will probably do their best to delay it to the closure of the second transfer window to disadvantage us as much as possible in lieu of not being able to deduct points. I believe the EFL executive decides this and my understanding is that now comprises of Rick Parry, Trevor Birch, some independent non-exec directors, Nicholas Randall (Forest), Peter Ridsdale (Preston), Neil Bousor (Middlesbrough), along with some Lower league representation including Jez Moxey (Burton). It is absolutely clear what the championship appointed club representatives will be advocating and why I will be amazed if we sign anyone else before the deadline. I will also be amazed. BramcoteRam84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 When do the accounts for 1066 need to be in. Accounts for 1666 were destroyed in the fire, including those backed up on flash drives. We can only do so much. Lol. NottsRam77, i-Ram and jono 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 40 minutes ago, Ram1988 said: I thought I'd check the thread for any updates but I see that none of us are any more of the wiser? Try again in 48 hours. Ram1988 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Mostyn6 said: Try again in 48 hours. 48 hours is always the one for Derby ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 John Percy saying on Twitter we're trying to reach agreement on punishment with the EFL. They want 9 points, which we're trying to negotiate down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Crewton said: John Percy saying on Twitter we're trying to reach agreement on punishment with the EFL. They want 9 points, which we're trying to negotiate down. Oh dear, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Crewton said: John Percy saying on Twitter we're trying to reach agreement on punishment with the EFL. They want 9 points, which we're trying to negotiate down. If the EFL had a watertight case they wouldn’t negotiate they would just apply it surely Carl Sagan, Crewton, BramcoteRam84 and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Crewton said: John Percy saying on Twitter we're trying to reach agreement on punishment with the EFL. They want 9 points, which we're trying to negotiate down. On the bright side, we'll only be 1 pt behind Forest when we beat them at the weekend ? Edited August 26, 2021 by maxjam Premier ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Can someone copy the free telegraph link from Yahoo please. Can't find it anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_wilcockson Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: Can someone copy the free telegraph link from Yahoo please. Can't find it anywhere. https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/Derby-county-close-efl-settlement-164914484.html Carl Sagan and MACKWORTHRAM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Crewton said: John Percy saying on Twitter we're trying to reach agreement on punishment with the EFL. They want 9 points, which we're trying to negotiate down. I understood from various posts that the punishment for failing P&S is partly defined and partly at the whim of the EFL for aggravating circumstances. It can only be the latter part that is negotiable. So perhaps we have a minor, say 3 point failure of the calculated number and they want to add a further 6, which would be jaw-droppingly unreasonable given the complete cods up they made of their case. The sheer malice and capriciousness is mad. BramcoteRam84, LeedsCityRam, Crewton and 8 others 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: If the EFL had a watertight case they wouldn’t negotiate they would just apply it surely If WE had a watertight case ... we could cope with 6 points easily. Problem is the clock is against us in the negotiation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew3000 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Jeez 9 points? Not liking the sound of this....oh well, let's get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Just now, Andrew3000 said: Jeez 9 points? Not liking the sound of this....oh well, let's get it done. If it was 9 points and justified why don’t they just apply it ? Sounds like they are trying to save face and hope we will accept something just to get out of the embargo. strawhillram, r_wilcockson and Andrew3000 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: If the EFL had a watertight case they wouldn’t negotiate they would just apply it surely I maybe wrong but I think we could appeal against the punishment the EFL give us but not the verdict. It makes sense to agree the punishment as it brings the issue to a close for both parties and removes the need for further appeals If Percy is right it looks like we really breached the FFP in a number of seasons ??? 9 points ???? r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 The negotiation will be down to the fact we could've sold players etc to change our p&s figures which we cannot do retrospectively now if we change the accounts after the inital sign off. Seems like neither us nor the efl want it to go to a tribunal again which is good. Maybe a 3pt deduction with an additional 3pts suspended? All embargoes removed & we move forward r_wilcockson, Chester40 and RadioactiveWaste 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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