sage Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 24 minutes ago, Abu Derby said: Apparently we still owe £8m for him and another 2 for Jozwiak Cheers Mel. ? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanram Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 https://metro.co.uk/2021/10/02/Derby-county-owe-arsenal-8million-for-transfer-flop-signed-by-arsene-wenger-15352953/ According to Metro Bielik is a ‘Transfer Flop’. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Orphanram said: https://metro.co.uk/2021/10/02/Derby-county-owe-arsenal-8million-for-transfer-flop-signed-by-arsene-wenger-15352953/ According to Metro Bielik is a ‘Transfer Flop’. It is quite difficult to say that it was £10m well spent jimtastic56, Orphanram and Carl Sagan 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanram Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Just now, AndyinLiverpool said: It is quite difficult to say that it was £10m well spent That’s a fair statement but calling him a flop isn’t fair in my view. jimtastic56 and hydraulic ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Orphanram said: That’s a fair statement but calling him a flop isn’t fair in my view. 'Flop' does suggest that he's been rubbish, which is far from the truth but his stint with us does have all the signs of a George Thorne situation. We'll all hang on to every little bit of hope, every sign of progress and then release him for nothing. In those terms 'flop' seem about right. jimtastic56 and Orphanram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 2, 2021 Author Share Posted October 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: It is quite difficult to say that it was £10m well spent Was it £10m? Will it be £10m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 15 hours ago, Abu Derby said: Apparently we still owe £8m for him and another 2 for Jozwiak Cheers Mel. We aren't £8m behind in payments. We agreed to pay in installments. Also, there is no way we owe £8m at this stage. jimtastic56 and RadioactiveWaste 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 I’m worried he won’t play for us again to be honest. If we’re only allowed to have 23 registered players I doubt he’s registered now, and won’t be able to be registered until January. And if we’re still in admin, someone will take a punt on him for a couple of million, even with his injuries. He’d make such a difference to our side again, I hope we’re able to keep him. DesertRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kernow said: I’m worried he won’t play for us again to be honest. If we’re only allowed to have 23 registered players I doubt he’s registered now, and won’t be able to be registered until January. And if we’re still in admin, someone will take a punt on him for a couple of million, even with his injuries. He’d make such a difference to our side again, I hope we’re able to keep him. I doubt we'd get that much. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 46 minutes ago, Orphanram said: https://metro.co.uk/2021/10/02/Derby-county-owe-arsenal-8million-for-transfer-flop-signed-by-arsene-wenger-15352953/ According to Metro Bielik is a ‘Transfer Flop’. "The Poland international joined the Gunners as a highly-rated teenager when Arsene Wenger was still at the helm, but failed to make the grade in north London and departed after failing to make a single first team appearance." Flop for Arsenal, I read it as. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanram Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 30 minutes ago, GboroRam said: "The Poland international joined the Gunners as a highly-rated teenager when Arsene Wenger was still at the helm, but failed to make the grade in north London and departed after failing to make a single first team appearance." Flop for Arsenal, I read it as. Reading it again I think your right. GboroRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Could be in training with team by the end of the month RoyMac5, r_wilcockson, OohMartWright and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, tinman said: Could be in training with team by the end of the month Bad news that, Wayne trains with us doesn't he Ramarena, RadioactiveWaste, jimtastic56 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 If Bielik becomes available for the first team before January, won't the EFL insist we cannot extend Jagielka's contract as we were given special dispensation to go above the 23 "players of professional standing" limit because of Bielik's long-term injury - but only with a 6-month contract (until Bielik was fit)? I suspect it's a lot more complicated than this and depends on a lot of factors, but I'm just throwing this out there in case someone knows specifically what conditions have been imposed here. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 11 hours ago, Orphanram said: https://metro.co.uk/2021/10/02/Derby-county-owe-arsenal-8million-for-transfer-flop-signed-by-arsene-wenger-15352953/ According to Metro Bielik is a ‘Transfer Flop’. Of course he is. He's hardly played. He's a great player when fully fit and playing with confidence but he needs to stay fit for a long time once he comes back if he's going to start justifying the amount we paid. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 11 hours ago, AndyinLiverpool said: It is quite difficult to say that it was £10m well spent Without him, we would’ve been relegated last season and that would’ve been £10m plus lost in revenue. He’s more than paid his fee back, despite his minimal game time IMO. Crewton, Ted McMinn Football Genius, DesertRam and 17 others 5 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 03/10/2021 at 00:48, Ambitious said: Without him, we would’ve been relegated last season and that would’ve been £10m plus lost in revenue. He’s more than paid his fee back, despite his minimal game time IMO. Couldn't agree more. Some folk have short memories. Adslegend, CBRammette, Reggie Greenwood and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Couldn't agree more. Some folk have short memories. Yeah, they also have an extremely negative view of everything connected with club. Anyone who saw Bielik play last season and still thinks we overpaid for him is having a laugh. Whether we should have spent that kind of money is a different issue. SaffyRam, S8TY, jono and 7 others 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 29 minutes ago, Crewton said: Yeah, they also have an extremely negative view of everything connected with club. Anyone who saw Bielik play last season and still thinks we overpaid for him is having a laugh. Whether we should have spent that kind of money is a different issue. Christian Bielik and George Thorne...Wow we've had some bad luck with these 2 jimtastic56 and Crewton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Crewton said: Yeah, they also have an extremely negative view of everything connected with club. Anyone who saw Bielik play last season and still thinks we overpaid for him is having a laugh. Whether we should have spent that kind of money is a different issue. It isn't a different issue. What the club spent money on and what it should have spent money on are the same issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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