Miggins Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I don't know how much we paid our accountants at Derby, but I reckon 4 of us with GCE maths, a pocket calculator and an ounce of common sense could have done it twice as well. David Graham Brown and RadioactiveWaste 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winktheram Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Miggins said: £200 million put in by Mel plus money for the stadium. Where one earth did that money go? I don't understand the details of our finances, @Sparkle, but I don't understand how we ended up in so much catastrophic debt. Wages and transfers in. Ave player on £10-£30k a week, spend £4m a piece on Johnson and Anya transfers et al. Don't take long to burn. Miggins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Miggins said: I don't know how much we paid our accountants at Derby, but I reckon 4 of us with GCE maths, a pocket calculator and an ounce of common sense could have done it twice as well. accountants are only as good as the client just for reference Miggins and David Graham Brown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Arsene Titman said: Why are you thinking 16 points discussion based on Mel’s comments? Exactly which comments led you to think 16 points? 12 points Administration 4 for the breach - Mel said there was a breach and it thought it was 4 points.. r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rambalin said: The 80 million is not exaggerated it was valued independently by a international agency with experience of valuing stadia. The ground is rented for 3million a year which is way below the market rate so virtually no chance of a renegotiation That’s right. The EFL valued it at a lower figure, but their surveyor didn’t bother to visit Pride Park, he did his valuation via google.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, KBB said: As long as the club survives (doesn't go into liquidation) we will be in league 1. If we have worst case scenarios of double relegation loads of points off and everyone sold who can be it will be a 10 year+ reset. We will not simply walk back up the leagues. It won't happen. Think of clubs who went down a stayed down. For me there is nothing else at the moment that matters but making sure the club survives. Nothing more. Make sure we have Derby county for the short, medium and long term. It took Luton 10 years to come back from the conference having been in the championship. I think they got 40 points deducted for various misdemeanours. They have loyal fans and a history but they are far removed from the mighty Rams .. if they can do it we blooming can ! I am guessing we will get - 4 on top of the 12 for this season and will start next season with other penalties anywhere from -3 to minus 9. I dream of heroics and surviving this season but it would be a greater feat than Leicester winning the prem and would re write football history. I do believe though, that we have the fans, the history and the will to go no lower than league 1. I think once the debt situation and cost of using the ground is resolved reasonably then someone somewhere will buy our great club. I can’t believe the EFL have enough on us to get us out of the football league but boy oh boy have we got a battle on. Sheff Ram, KBB, RadioactiveWaste and 2 others 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, jono said: I think once the debt situation and cost of using the ground is resolved reasonably then someone somewhere will buy our great club. I can’t believe the EFL have enough on us to get us out of the football league but boy oh boy have we got a battle on. They can only expel us if we don't fulfil fixtures or get liquidated. r_wilcockson and RadioactiveWaste 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 45 minutes ago, Half Fan Half Biscuit said: If Mel’s had any sense he’ll have loaned the money he’s been putting in over the past year to Gellaw 202, then shovelled that across to DCFC to reduce the amount owed for the stadium. Could easily have done just that mate, but all the information is hidden from view.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwichram2 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Just a question. Does RamsTV generate a profit or is it a liability the administrators would be likely to eliminate? Really hope not but.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, winktheram said: Wages and transfers in. Ave player on £10-£30k a week, spend £4m a piece on Johnson and Anya transfers et al. Don't take long to burn. Take into account money coming into the club. 130 -150 million in external revenue during his tenure and also another 60 million in fees for players / managers. If he's put in 200 million, he must be papering the walls with it. Miggins, i-Ram and Chester40 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 43 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: WR: Right, he's gone. Louie, get a shin up from Curtis. We're having the lead off the roof! We can't MM never got round to putting one on. SaffyRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Could easily have done just that mate, but all the information is hidden from view.... Live footage from the Mel and administrators meeting. Administrators: So Mel what’s the status of the stadium? Mel: Edited September 22, 2021 by Ramarena David Graham Brown, Van der MoodHoover and RadioactiveWaste 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: Fair play to Wayne if true. It's not Mels club any more. Cant have random old men cutting about the place whilst the people that actually give a toss about DCFC try and salvage the situation. No, we have a defence to do that RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Take into account money coming into the club. 130 -150 million in external revenue during his tenure and also another 60 million in fees for players / managers. If he's put in 200 million, he must be papering the walls with it. Purchase price of club plus 5 years losses of 13m plus stadium plus further write offs of players who we paid for and will be worth nowt plus stadium purchase? I can see it. Ghost of Clough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Just watched a piece on BBC East Midlands Today with a couple of fans and Mark Stallard. The administrators and Wayne are on the programme tomorrow night. RoyMac5, Ramarena and Miggins 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanram Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I don’t see why that Niall lad from 1D can’t get his 41.3 million Twitter followers to donate £1.21 each to clear the debt. If they could stretch to a couple of quid it might fund a transfer war chest to mount an assault on promotion. This is the impact this is having on my mental health i-Ram, Inverurie Ram, Ambitious and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBB Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Orphanram said: I don’t see why that Niall lad from 1D can’t get his 41.3 million Twitter followers to donate £1.21 each to clear the debt. If they could stretch to a couple of quid it might fund a transfer war chest to mount an assault on promotion. This is the impact this is having on my mental health That would be sensational. Imagine a load of tween girls sprinting to their exasperated parents asking for a couple of quid to donate to Derby County. JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta and Orphanram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) Edited September 23, 2021 by GboroRam Language, Timothy! OoooMarkWright, Andicis, Derby4Me and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaffyRam Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Heisenberg said: Starting to wonder whether Gibson has got something to hide, himself. What does he stand to gain from this? Edited September 23, 2021 by GboroRam Old Sawley Popside 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Heisenberg said: I presume this is the coercion that Mel spoke of, Gibson threatening to sue the EFL if they didn’t go after Derby. Edited September 23, 2021 by GboroRam RoyMac5, Ramarena, RadioactiveWaste and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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