rammieib Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Why do fans dislike players who score 10-15 goals a season but like players who score 2-3? I don’t think he would stay but I’d be over the moon if he does. Why - because it’s a guaranteed 10-15 goals. Something we don’t have yet. BramcoteRam84, w8sey, Caerphilly Ram and 9 others 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mckram Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) No wonder Sheffield United are interested…he destroyed them earlier in the season (watch the below from 1min 20 on to re-live it!). I was fairly critical of Tom before last season but I think he really stepped up for the most part. I’d be gutted to see him playing for someone else. Edited July 4, 2022 by Mckram r_wilcockson, BarrowRam, Steve How Hard? and 7 others 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8sey Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, rammieib said: Why do fans dislike players who score 10-15 goals a season but like players who score 2-3? I don’t think he would stay but I’d be over the moon if he does. Why - because it’s a guaranteed 10-15 goals. Something we don’t have yet. I cant understand it either. He's done a few daft things but he's a cracking player capable to truly special moments. Best season he's had for us last season and people still slate him and want him gone. Mad. Comrade 86, angieram, Will Hughes Hair and 5 others 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Just now, w8sey said: I cant understand it either. He's done a few daft things but he's a cracking player capable to truly special moments. Best season he's had for us last season and people still slate him and want him gone. Mad. Out of the joiners lot, he's the one that got his head down. He works hard and scores goals. jono, Comrade 86, Derby4Me and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 I strongly suspect he’s only training with us to get himself fit for a new club. No way will he want to stay in League One, even if some fans will want to cling onto the slim hope that he could stay. Be surprised if he takes up Sheffield Uniteds offer though. He’ll hold out for a more interesting move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: I strongly suspect he’s only training with us to get himself fit for a new club. No way will he want to stay in League One, even if some fans will want to cling onto the slim hope that he could stay. Be surprised if he takes up Sheffield Uniteds offer though. He’ll hold out for a more interesting move. such as what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: such as what Rangers maybe, least it’s a new League. Much easier as well. Edited July 4, 2022 by Millenniumram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_dcfc Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 9 hours ago, rammieib said: Why do fans dislike players who score 10-15 goals a season but like players who score 2-3? I don’t think he would stay but I’d be over the moon if he does. Why - because it’s a guaranteed 10-15 goals. Something we don’t have yet. Think you mean between 3-11 goals a season if you're talking about Tom Lawrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Millenniumram said: Rangers maybe, least it’s a new League. Much easier as well. League One is a new league and also much easier. Though probably a better standard than SPL. Only difference being he’ll miss out on getting spanked in Europe every other month. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, ollycutts1982 said: League One is a new league and also much easier. Though probably a better standard than SPL. Only difference being he’ll miss out on getting spanked in Europe every other month. And 10-20K a week. whiteroseram and angieram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadlad Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) For his own sake Tom needs to move on. We can’t afford his wages in league 1 and our fans will always associate his name with Joiner gate. I always think that he would be a better player if he could remember that there is no i in team. Thanks Tom, but no thanks. Edited July 5, 2022 by chadlad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Anybody else surprised that he hasn’t already signed for another club? Sheff U are basically asking him to come on trial. Steve How Hard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Hughes Hair Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 I know that most of us aware of this, but can I just remind people that we are operating under a business plan with restrictions on wages. These restrictions are designed to ensure affordability. Therefore if (and its a big if) Tom re-signs with us it will be on wages that are affordable for us. Plus, most likely, less than he may achieve elsewhere. That would pretty much be the antithesis of what Buchanan has done in terms of loyalty and I’d be delighted if it did come true. Caerphilly Ram, Ted McMinn Football Genius, TooFarInToTurnRed and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammysees Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, chadlad said: For his own sake Tom needs to move on. We can’t afford his wages in league 1 and our fans will always associate his name with Joiner gate. I always think that he would be a better player if he could remember that there is no i in team. Thanks Tom, but no thanks. There's no f in team either ........ ScamRam and duncanjwitham 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Folks shouldn’t be saying we can’t afford him, we can if he accepts our offer and yes he is extremely likely to get more money elsewhere but maybe he wants to help get Derby back to the championship, maybe he doesn’t want to travel every day or move away. Until he signs anywhere we don’t know. Others decided they don’t want to be here and that’s fine so let’s not discount the ones who might want to stay. Will Hughes Hair, Premier ram, The Scarlet Pimpernel and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Amazed Lawrence hasn't signed somewhere else considering any offer he gets here will surely at least half his current wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Trav Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Tom clearly enjoys it here and he’s played some good football here. Without him and his leadership last year we’d have been relegated by January. His goals are critical in our team and he is our talisman weather you like it or not. I don’t understand the hatred towards him inter politics, Leicester Ram, Premier ram and 6 others 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Big Trav said: Tom clearly enjoys it here and he’s played some good football here. Without him and his leadership last year we’d have been relegated by January. His goals are critical in our team and he is our talisman weather you like it or not. I don’t understand the hatred towards him What's the news on the ITK hotline Big Trav????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky1884 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Big Trav said: Tom clearly enjoys it here and he’s played some good football here. Without him and his leadership last year we’d have been relegated by January. His goals are critical in our team and he is our talisman weather you like it or not. I don’t understand the hatred towards him I just think the whole pub thing with Keogh gets in people's craw a bit with Lawrence. The way he mostly got away with it, it took a lot of focus of the field and wasted a lot of time and money. Okay he had sad reasons but it still happened. Was he Derby's worst player? No, did he play a lot of games and shine in some? Yes. Did he ever live up to his transfer fee or be the player he could have been? I'm not sure. But maybe for on feild and off field reasons other teams haven't come in for him until he was free. I'm sorry but I won't miss him. Edited July 5, 2022 by Tricky1884 Missing word chadlad and angieram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 9 hours ago, ben_dcfc said: Think you mean between 3-11 goals a season if you're talking about Tom Lawrence. 10 in 35. Our next best was 5 with ravel. My point is Knight (3 in 35), Sibley (1 in 23), Bird (2 in 40), Thompson (0 in 18), CKR (4 in 25), Plange (3 in 21), Shinnie (1 in 23). Wher eis the criticism of these players? I think English fans love to attack the players who are a bit more out there but we give a free ride to bang average players. Without Lawrence last season we would have been relegated 1-2 months earlier. He was our best offensive player hands down. Lets try keeping the best players and letting the mediocre players go. Ravabeerbelly and Rammy03 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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