Woodley Ram Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 It looks like we will have a new owner by January. I think we need to invest in a couple of big young centre backs, a big tackler for midfield, a couple of big speedy lads up front and a speed merchant. all aimed at L1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanoakaram4life Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Jamie Ward to come back ? he’s firing them in for Buxton! jimtastic56, Coneheadjohn, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I don't think we need to sign 2 CBs in January. Maybe 1 then another in the summer. A mobile, strong CF and a hard working wide forward are the priorities A GK who can come out and claim crosses would be good in the summer CBRammette and jimtastic56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramboy63 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Its not who we may or may not sign its who will want to come to Derby given were we will be in the league ziggyram59 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 If it is -21 and our results don't suddenly take a massive upturn, I'm not sure I would "strengthen" at all other than the odd loan deal, we got massively burned in 2008 trying to strengthen in the January when relegation was already inevitable, better to leave it till the Summer... r_wilcockson, mike93rh, Norman and 9 others 10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 It's not who will want to come to Derby, it's whether The EFL will allow them to come to Derby! ? ziggyram59 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black ('n' White) Sheep Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 With our situation (and the lack of time between now and Jan), my guess is, at best, we'd only be able to get in freebies or loans. I'd be looking to strengthen these areas (in order of preference): 1. Big centre-forward - We don't score enough. 'nuff said! If any are available for loan... Liam Delap, Ellis Simms or Cameron Archer. 2. GK - I don't have much confidence in any of our current GKs. We seem to concede due to a goalkeeping error every other week! If any are available for loan... Caiomhin Kelleher, Arthur Okonkwo... Freddie Woodman could be available if Newcastle go and spend big on a new 'keeper. 3. 'Defence minded' RB - Byrne gets caught out too often (and isn't tall/physical enough to play the role in the Championship IMO)... don't get me wrong, he's a decent player, but I wouldn't mind seeing him further forward, either at wing back or winger depending on the formation. If any are available for loan... Maksim Paskotsi. Or (a slightly 'left field option) Tom Hamer from Burton... he's strong, good with the ball at his feet and has one hell of a throw in on him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, Black ('n' White) Sheep said: With our situation (and the lack of time between now and Jan), my guess is, at best, we'd only be able to get in freebies or loans. I'd be looking to strengthen these areas (in order of preference): 1. Big centre-forward - We don't score enough. 'nuff said! If any are available for loan... Liam Delap, Ellis Simms or Cameron Archer. 2. GK - I don't have much confidence in any of our current GKs. We seem to concede due to a goalkeeping error every other week! If any are available for loan... Caiomhin Kelleher, Arthur Okonkwo... Freddie Woodman could be available if Newcastle go and spend big on a new 'keeper. 3. 'Defence minded' RB - Byrne gets caught out too often (and isn't tall/physical enough to play the role in the Championship IMO)... don't get me wrong, he's a decent player, but I wouldn't mind seeing him further forward, either at wing back or winger depending on the formation. If any are available for loan... Maksim Paskotsi. Or (a slightly 'left field option) Tom Hamer from Burton... he's strong, good with the ball at his feet and has one hell of a throw in on him! I’m still not convinced that our keepers make many more or less mistakes than those playing for other championship teams - I need to study them more to have a real opinion - so that wouldn’t be a priority for me. r_wilcockson and angieram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 If one is available who would be good prospect and not overinflated panic January buy has to be a CF jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addingham Ram Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 40 minutes ago, ramboy63 said: Its not who we may or may not sign its who will want to come to Derby given were we will be in the league I realise as fans we might not be happy about the possibility of dropping into League 1, but come on, it's not the end of the world, especially if the EFL problems are behind us and we have new owners. Derby will still be a massive draw for the kind of players we should be looking for. There will be young hungry players coming through at another league 1 / league 2 club looking to progress to the next level (and there will be some gems if we get the right scouting team in place), Premier League club loanees looking for a taste of first team football (and if Wayne is still here I'm sure he will be able to use his contacts) and the odd experience pro who wants to give a little back (like Curtis / Jags, who let's face it aren't at Derby for the sake of their future career). We'll also still have some of the current crop of recently promoted Academy players who will have a full season of games in them. If we went down to League 1, we'd be a very big fish, we'll still have one of the best staduims outside of the Premier League, a fantastic training ground, Grade 1 Academy, and an amazing fan base (we'd fill most away ends as well). So whilst I don't want us to go down as much as anybody else, let's at least consider relegation as a chance to reset and regroup, rather than as a doomsday scenario. I was there during the old Third Division days, I remember the despair at going down, but I remember even more fondly some of the best couple of years being a Derby fan during those 2 years. Keep the faith Ramboy63. UTR ? Comrade 86, vonwright, angieram and 8 others 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Loans for players that we might want to have for the full season next year, whether that's another loan or permanently. If there's a good option available who will definitely be of use next season then it would make sense as there's less to do in the summer. But anyone who joins permanently in January if we have the -21 deduction will know they're a League 1 player next season, so there's no surprises. Other than that, I'd like to use the rest of the season to give the better of the young players as much game time and experience as possible. The season would be over, we may as well use the time wisely to prepare for next campaign as much as reasonably possible. angieram and r_wilcockson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth's left foot Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Addingham Ram said: I realise as fans we might not be happy about the possibility of dropping into League 1, but come on, it's not the end of the world, especially if the EFL problems are behind us and we have new owners. Derby will still be a massive draw for the kind of players we should be looking for. There will be young hungry players coming through at another league 1 / league 2 club looking to progress to the next level (and there will be some gems if we get the right scouting team in place), Premier League club loanees looking for a taste of first team football (and if Wayne is still here I'm sure he will be able to use his contacts) and the odd experience pro who wants to give a little back (like Curtis / Jags, who let's face it aren't at Derby for the sake of their future career). We'll also still have some of the current crop of recently promoted Academy players who will have a full season of games in them. If we went down to League 1, we'd be a very big fish, we'll still have one of the best staduims outside of the Premier League, a fantastic training ground, Grade 1 Academy, and an amazing fan base (we'd fill most away ends as well). So whilst I don't want us to go down as much as anybody else, let's at least consider relegation as a chance to reset and regroup, rather than as a doomsday scenario. I was there during the old Third Division days, I remember the despair at going down, but I remember even more fondly some of the best couple of years being a Derby fan during those 2 years. Keep the faith Ramboy63. UTR ? Some new away days to experience which is always a good thing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 If we can’t stay up due to point deductions then why bother bringing in anybody unless we want them permanently and they can move here. We should only play our perceived better team selections against those who we want to annoy the most whilst not bothering in some others in terms of actually winning any points. Parachute payments and point deductions is the only thing that gets talked about in this league anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24Charlie Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 No one will come to Derby to get relegated. Footballers are ambitious and even those coming to the end of their careers will want unreasonable wages and a 1 year extension option. If it’s -21 we are down. Don’t buy players because it’s pointless. Access at the end of the season because plenty of our talent will be tempted away. At that point we’ll know what we need then try and recruit under whatever business plan or embargo we are still tied to. I would be gobsmacked if we come back straight up. Not that many do. It’ll take a season or two completely lance the boil. I predict that the side that comes up will be completely unrecognisable to the first team squad we see today. Our kids will get plenty of games after the Jan window because just about anyone worth anything will have gone. The trouble with that is that the kids will want away at the end of the season. Relegation will cost us dear, but there’ll still be a Derby County and we will return…one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Actually reading through posts on this thread the number one priority for any new owner should be to sort out our scouting/recruitment set up MackworthRamIsGod, hintonsboots, jimtastic56 and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Already mentioned in an earlier post on this thread , but Ellis Simms on loan from Everton Reggie Greenwood and Black ('n' White) Sheep 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Key Club King Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 6 hours ago, Woodley Ram said: It looks like we will have a new owner by January. I think we need to invest in a couple of big young centre backs, a big tackler for midfield, a couple of big speedy lads up front and a speed merchant. all aimed at L1 New owner, plenty of excitement, money to spend! Ooh let's see: Big tackler in midfield - Bradley Johnson. Speedy up front - Jack Marriott and Dave Nugent. Speed merchant - Ikechi Anya. What could possibly go wrong? jimtastic56 and ziggyram59 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 A younger centre back, a creative winger preferable pacey. And a mobile striker that can lead the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hordh Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 12 hours ago, Woodley Ram said: It looks like we will have a new owner by January. I think we need to invest in a couple of big young centre backs, a big tackler for midfield, a couple of big speedy lads up front and a speed merchant. all aimed at L1 There will be a restriction on who or amount that can be brought in so don't go counting the chicken's too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 10 hours ago, Kernow said: Loans for players that we might want to have for the full season next year, whether that's another loan or permanently. If there's a good option available who will definitely be of use next season then it would make sense as there's less to do in the summer. But anyone who joins permanently in January if we have the -21 deduction will know they're a League 1 player next season, so there's no surprises. Other than that, I'd like to use the rest of the season to give the better of the young players as much game time and experience as possible. The season would be over, we may as well use the time wisely to prepare for next campaign as much as reasonably possible. I agree to some extent, but we need to get as much money as possible for the players we want to sell Dean (hick) Saunders and jimtastic56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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