angieram Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 7 hours ago, ilkleyram said: You are correct. And a fair enough decision unlike most of the others - not only was he poor but he was also inconsistent. Stearman challenged him on at least two occasions about why he’d been booked when similar offences from Reading players went unpunished. Good to have a bit of Led Zeppelin at half time. Hadn't heard that one for ages. Reminds me of the Black Rocks in Cromford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) The next 6-8 games present a genuine opportunity for us to make ground on the teams above us. If we can build momentum and get into that winning habit, I am not sure the players will even be concerned by another points deduction. This is largely a very poor league and points are there to be won in every game. There are three very good teams, yes, but generally no-one to fear. Coventry being in 4th and getting smashed 5-0 by Luton tells us everything we need to know. I feared for us after Birmingham away. We made a fairly average team look good. But the response since then has been very encouraging and unlike earlier in the season, we are not just competing and battling but also digging in and getting good results to match. The odds are stacked against us, but the players and the coaching staff have responded exactly how we would have wanted. Another win on Saturday? Why not? Edited September 30, 2021 by Jourdan Rammy03, hintonsboots, rynny and 7 others 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 21 minutes ago, Jourdan said: The next 6-8 games present a genuine opportunity for us to make ground on the teams above us. If we can build momentum and get into that winning habit, I am not sure the players will even be concerned by another points deduction. This is largely a very poor league and points are there to be won in every game. There are three very good teams, yes, but generally no-one to fear. Coventry being in 4th and getting smashed 5-0 by Luton tells us everything we need to know. I feared for us after Birmingham away. We made a fairly average team look good. But the response since then has been very encouraging and unlike earlier in the season, we are not just competing and battling but also digging in and getting good results to match. The odds are stacked against us, but the players and the coaching staff have responded exactly how we would have wanted. Another win on Saturday? Why not? Ok admit it Who has hacked Jourdan's login and written something positive to annoy him? Reggie Greenwood, Sidd10, RedSox and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 A well deserved win against a poor Reading team, Why were Reading poor...because we made them look poor, Our hassling them when they were trying to play from the back...is something we're fully aware of, A couple of dicey moments with CD playing their man in and a free header that was put wide, Allsop was steady, He had very little to do, A couple of shots theat were dealt with, Pleased for Forsyth that header and placement wasn't easy, Back 4 resiliant, Shinnie and Bird looked in command, Morrison and Knight were excellent, Baldock struggles as a lone striker but doesa a job, Lawrence looked better than his usual self, That freekick that sailed over the bar by a good margin made my eyes go ?, Nice to see us in the plus bracket. A special mention to the fool in the middle, There was a time yonks ago when English refs were the envy of the world, Now we can't even scrape the barrell, Not a problem with Stearman being booked, I have a problem when he lets their player off for doing the same, The handball and Morrison being fouled on the edge of the box...another day another ref and it's a Pen and a freekick, His overall handling was poor, What were fouls on us were overlooked, But fouls on them were given, Cobstantly in Allsops ear 2nd half for his slow recovery of the ball, Not into conspiracy theories...but my was he poor. RedSox, norwichram and Malagaram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 10 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: How much of an impact did the traffic issues have? Do we deserve a club if so few go in our hour of need? I didn't go but I don't own a car and can't get back to London after a midweek game. But I feel guilty. Will more come if these battling performances continue? Yet the crowd, when reduced to these numbers as in times gone by, is at their most supportive of the team. As gates swell, it often mutes them, and the moaners return. Is it better right now to have the hard core players and fans in it together? Us against the world. I'd rather look at it another way. Home crowds are increasing game by game. Against Huddersfield there were about 12/13,000 home fans. Now we're up to 18,000. If you discount to zero or count the same number of away fans for the Stoke/Reading games, there was actually a bigger home support for Weds night v Reading than there was a Sat v Stoke, which is remarkable. On the second point, absolutely. It's much, much better with a smaller crowd of supporting fans than with a larger one which contains thousands of whingers. I'm loving this season so far. Old Spalding Ram, Ravabeerbelly, angieram and 4 others 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, VulcanRam said: I'd rather look at it another way. Home crowds are increasing game by game. Against Huddersfield there were about 12/13,000 home fans. Now we're up to 18,000. If you discount to zero or count the same number of away fans for the Stoke/Reading games, there was actually a bigger home support for Weds night v Reading than there was a Sat v Stoke, which is remarkable. On the second point, absolutely. It's much, much better with a smaller crowd of supporting fans than with a larger one which contains thousands of whingers. I'm loving this season so far. It certainly felt/looked like more last night. I'd have said it seemed more like 21/22k. Was very surprised to see the attendance. We laid off the person who tallies it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, sage said: Ok admit it Who has hacked Jourdan's login and written something positive to annoy him? Certainly not me. We're doomed and everything is awful.... ? But I'm working in Crawley so should soon have another match within my catchment area.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malagaram Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 54 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said: A well deserved win against a poor Reading team, Why were Reading poor...because we made them look poor, Our hassling them when they were trying to play from the back...is something we're fully aware of, A couple of dicey moments with CD playing their man in and a free header that was put wide, Allsop was steady, He had very little to do, A couple of shots theat were dealt with, Pleased for Forsyth that header and placement wasn't easy, Back 4 resiliant, Shinnie and Bird looked in command, Morrison and Knight were excellent, Baldock struggles as a lone striker but doesa a job, Lawrence looked better than his usual self, That freekick that sailed over the bar by a good margin made my eyes go ?, Nice to see us in the plus bracket. A special mention to the fool in the middle, There was a time yonks ago when English refs were the envy of the world, Now we can't even scrape the barrell, Not a problem with Stearman being booked, I have a problem when he lets their player off for doing the same, The handball and Morrison being fouled on the edge of the box...another day another ref and it's a Pen and a freekick, His overall handling was poor, What were fouls on us were overlooked, But fouls on them were given, Cobstantly in Allsops ear 2nd half for his slow recovery of the ball, Not into conspiracy theories...but my was he poor. Number 14 was playing in gloves for Reading,and its only 29th September,will he be playing in a track suit in December Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 I love Forsyth's goal. It's a brilliant header. From that position, the fact he has to loop it, and there's a Reading player challenging for the header, it really is an excellent finish. I love that entire passage of play. Forsyth skipping down the line and leaving the opposition full back in the dust had me wondering if someone has been fiddling with a time machine. His initial cross was really dangerous and he then gets himself in the box, not just aimlessly milling around, but calling for the pass. angieram and Rammy03 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezzyram Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 hours ago, angieram said: Hadn't heard that one for ages. Reminds me of the Black Rocks in Cromford. Wow, the Black Rocks, this forum certainly brings on some serious attacks of nostalgia. I'm off to dig out some Witchfynde... angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, Anon said: I love Forsyth's goal. It's a brilliant header. From that position, the fact he has to loop it, and there's a Reading player challenging for the header, it really is an excellent finish. I love that entire passage of play. Forsyth skipping down the line and leaving the opposition full back in the dust had me wondering if someone has been fiddling with a time machine. His initial cross was really dangerous and he then gets himself in the box, not just aimlessly milling around, but calling for the pass. You think he actually meant it? I certainly think he was just nodding it back across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 26 minutes ago, Malagaram said: Number 14 was playing in gloves for Reading,and its only 29th September,will he be playing in a track suit in December It's the norm nowadays to wear gloves in football...not all players do tho, It's the Mothers and Wives I blame telling them to make sure you keep warm. Malagaram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Last night's display really does make you wonder if there is an agenda against us. And I don't usually subscribe to the idea to be honest. Very few fouls - certainly nothing dangerous or cynical - and we somehow come away with four bookings. A stonewall handball in clear view of both linesman and referee. No penalty. And was it Ravel who got cleaned out on the edge of Reading's box? No freekick, let alone a booking for them. Regardless, a good win and a cracking atmosphere. Well done, Rams and Rams fans! ? Ram-Alf, RoyMac5 and norwichram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Jourdan said: The next 6-8 games present a genuine opportunity for us to make ground on the teams above us. If we can build momentum and get into that winning habit, I am not sure the players will even be concerned by another points deduction. This is largely a very poor league and points are there to be won in every game. There are three very good teams, yes, but generally no-one to fear. Coventry being in 4th and getting smashed 5-0 by Luton tells us everything we need to know. I feared for us after Birmingham away. We made a fairly average team look good. But the response since then has been very encouraging and unlike earlier in the season, we are not just competing and battling but also digging in and getting good results to match. The odds are stacked against us, but the players and the coaching staff have responded exactly how we would have wanted. Another win on Saturday? Why not? @Jourdan says nice things about the team. The rest of the forum reacts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) Great result and could have been more. Considering Reading were on a bit of a good spell of form, makes it even better. Tight defence and given the run of the ball, the goals will come at the other end. Well done Derby! Edited September 30, 2021 by TimRam Tamworthram and norwichram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, Scott129 said: Last night's display really does make you wonder if there is an agenda against us. And I don't usually subscribe to the idea to be honest. Very few fouls - certainly nothing dangerous or cynical - and we somehow come away with four bookings. A stonewall handball in clear view of both linesman and referee. No penalty. And was it Ravel who got cleaned out on the edge of Reading's box? No freekick, let alone a booking for them. Regardless, a good win and a cracking atmosphere. Well done, Rams and Rams fans! ? I don't normally criticise the officials (it's a very difficult job, we probably get our fair share of dodgy decisions etc) but last nights did seem rather poor. Having said that, I'm 100% convinced there is no agenda against us involving the referees. archram and Andicis 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minesahartington Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Srg said: You think he actually meant it? I certainly think he was just nodding it back across. He said he meant it. Wonderful header if he did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Srg said: You think he actually meant it? I certainly think he was just nodding it back across. I never really thought about it. I guess you're always hedging your bets a little when heading back across the keeper, but I think from his body shape, and his reaction (celebrating before it's even over the line), he meant it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Somebody put up a breakdown.. Isn't there 3 points in there for being late paying wages or was that bit suspended? 3 points for late wages (in 20/21) were suspended, only to be applied if the offence occurs again within a certain period of time. Our P&S penalty is supposedly 12 points, 3 of which suspended (9 points to be deducted). Those 12 would be the total from multiple periods. For example, it could be something like: 3 years to 2018 - £4m = 4 points 3 years to 2020 - £6m = 5 points 3 years to 2021 - £2.5m = 3 points Van der MoodHoover 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 56 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: 3 points for late wages (in 20/21) were suspended, only to be applied if the offence occurs again within a certain period of time. Our P&S penalty is supposedly 12 points, 3 of which suspended (9 points to be deducted). Those 12 would be the total from multiple periods. For example, it could be something like: 3 years to 2018 - £4m = 4 points 3 years to 2020 - £6m = 5 points 3 years to 2021 - £2.5m = 3 points So really all the argy bargy over the accounting policy was about 4 points. I thought it was the case that we had amended the accounting policy back to straight line amortisation a while back? In which case MM and IP must have known that we were going to cop for a points deduction in respect of the more recent years which amounts to 5+3 =8 points under this restated schedule, but which had we not had to rework historic accounts might have been higher! Perhaps a case of a bit of deflection by MM by focussing attention on the historic issue as opposed to the more recent overspend..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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