Rammy03 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 EFL are corrupt. Surely they won't actually relegate us and keep Wycombe up? Surely not. They won't have the balls. Remember this is all speculation. I still believe it will be a slap on the wrist I am Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ambitious said: We now have the Athletic also jumping on the wagon, so I'd suggest that this is definitely going to happen. We just don't know what and when the punishment will be https://theathletic.com/news/Derby-championship-efl-ffp-appeal/1qTsyqHxZtEa. Are the EFL offices in London manned at all? First line: The EFL has won its appeal Next paragraph: An independent panel will now decide on what punishment So they haven't won anything yet. A "win" could simply be a penalty. They state Wednesday as a "precedent", yet ignore the fact they were awarded the 12 point penalty at the end of last season, with the deduction being applied to this season. Using that precedent, a penalty for us would be applied to next season. The reporting in this country is poor. IslandExile, Carnero, Zag zig and 7 others 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, SamUltraRam said: Wayne Rooney’s brought the club from Mel now was well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFox1993 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ambitious said: We now have the Athletic also jumping on the wagon, so I'd suggest that this is definitely going to happen. We just don't know what and when the punishment will be https://theathletic.com/news/Derby-championship-efl-ffp-appeal/1qTsyqHxZtEa. Are the EFL offices in London manned at all? Just another rehash of the Daily Fail article. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Ram Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Ultimately, clubs that overspend, are doing so, to compete with the three relegated clubs. The efl has got to do something about this, or we will have the same three clubs going up/down every year. Next season it will be West brom, Sheff U and probably Fulham smashing the league up,it's getting predictable and boring. Kathcairns, r_wilcockson, Sparkle and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamUltraRam Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Even the Athletic headline is making assumptions. It could still be a slapped wrist or a fine, like Birmingham got last season when the EFL won their appeal r_wilcockson, RadioactiveWaste and Rammy03 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Online articles serve one purpose and that is to drive traffic to their websites to push subscriptions or put eyes on adverts. Sensationalist headlines like "Derby are going to be relegated and Mel Morris is set to be fired in to the centre of the sun on the next Tesla rocket" are how they go about it. At best, they know as much as we do at this point. At worst, they have no idea and are just publishing assumptions based on no knowledge of the detail. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Aralliss Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Went to bed contented this morning after a night shift, to wake up this afternoon contemplating the great escape in all its glory. Switch on my phone and BOOM! First thing I read is we are getting a points deduction and relegated. This ‘Burying your head in sand’ thing I’ve since read about seems like a good idea. I’m off to find a suitable sandpit, see you in a couple of months. Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 IslandExile, Posh Ram, Ghost of Clough and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 A reminder of what the EFL are appealing... The second charge (amortisation) was split up into 5 particulars. 1. The EFL withdraw the first particular, so nothing to look into. 2. This is not in contradiction to the financial standard FRS102 3. As per the 2nd particular 4. Unreliability in estimating a player's value does not mean the policy contradicts FRS102. 5. Inadequate disclosure is punishable. As it doesn't impact passing/failing P&S, it is impossible to receive a points penalty against this particular. Carnero, Will Hughes Hair, Rammy03 and 15 others 7 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24Charlie Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: Online articles serve one purpose and that is to drive traffic to their websites to push subscriptions or put eyes on adverts. Sensationalist headlines like "Derby are going to be relegated and Mel Morris is set to be fired in to the centre of the sun on the next Tesla rocket" are how they go about it. At best, they know as much as we do at this point. At worst, they have no idea and are just publishing assumptions based on no knowledge of the detail. This is right. Steve Nicholson understands that it was always going to be a fine but the tabloids have now gone on a feeding frenzy getting sustenance from each other’s overexcited drivel. Now because it’s apparently nailed on relegation according to these muppets and as @JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNestasays now that the Rocket for Mel’s Sunshot is being fuelled the fans from other clubs will be outraged and spout off about how we got away with it when it transpires that in fact all it is or was ever going to be was a fine. Rammy03, Nishfan, Kathcairns and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Carnero said: If we were getting a points deduction then we'd have pushed for the win at the end of the game rather than sitting on a draw wouldn't we. That wouldn't make a difference though when the EFL dock up 76 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Ram Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 So the Efl model for the championship in current state is - three relegated teams can have £30 million players scattered all through their teams, but the rest of you plebs, can only spend that amount in three years. Kathcairns and Rammy03 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Ghost of Clough said: A reminder of what the EFL are appealing... The second charge (amortisation) was split up into 5 particulars. 1. The EFL withdraw the first particular, so nothing to look into. 2. This is not in contradiction to the financial standard FRS102 3. As per the 2nd particular 4. Unreliability in estimating a player's value does not mean the policy contradicts FRS102. 5. Inadequate disclosure is punishable. As it doesn't impact passing/failing P&S, it is impossible to receive a points penalty against this particular. Fingers crossed. I can't see anything on the main BBC Sport website or SKY football website about this and nothing on DCFC website?? Has it been discussed on SKY Sports News?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Foreveram said: I watched it again yesterday,enjoyed it much better the second time Lol. Starting to miss our footy already, might have to watch again, my nerves will be steadier! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Lol. Starting to miss our footy already, might have to watch again, my nerves will be steadier! ? Yes have also watched the entire second half twice on Sky Plus. Much more relaxed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inter politics Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 My only concern regarding fine or points is that our amortisation policy allowed us to stay within FFP limits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Fingers crossed. I can't see anything on the main BBC Sport website or SKY football website about this and nothing on DCFC website?? Has it been discussed on SKY Sports News?? They wont discuss this because it doesn't suit their "Derby ARE GOING DOWN LOL" narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 “Wayne Rooney’s club” FFS! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 I'm pretty sure I read somewhere over the weekend that the latest date a points deduction can be imposed on the 2020/21 season was sometime in March - or have I imagined that? Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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