EFL appeal

[Nuwtfly]

Derbyshire Live's Rams' writer Steve Nicholson says he would "staggered" if a deduction was to be handed down at all - and especially if it was implemented for the 2020-21 campaign.

He said: "This appeal has been ongoing since September. It's an appeal against the amortisation of players - it's only that part of the initial charge.

"Derby, we must remember, were cleared of all wrongdoing so it's just that one part of it. I'm under the impression that even if Derby were to lose that one part of the appeal, it wouldn't result in a points deduction.

"We'll have to wait and see. At the moment there's no official word that Derby have lost, so we're awaiting that. But I think it would be remarkable, utterly remarkable, if suddenly Derby were given a deduction on this one part of the charge."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/Derby-county-points-deduction-survival-24078183

[Mihangel]

11 minutes ago, Asheville Ram said:

I prefer to accept the opinion of someone who lectures in accountancy and football finance rather than the bar room opinions of non experts, you are confusing capital with liquidity, which despite requests from the EFL for the Spanish kid to deposit funds into a bank account for proof of cash has not happened.

 

I'm not confusing anything with anything, I'm quoting your hero and pointing out the very obvious error he has made. The thing is, I've made no comment on finances of the 'Spanish kid' as I haven't got a clue about them, that's the difference between me an Maguire - If I don't have the information, I won't pass judgment. My opinion is that I don't have a terribly warm feeling about the 'Spanish kid' but thats based on little more than inference and guesswork, much like Maguire.

[Ambitious]

The one benefit of having Erik Alonso become the owner of Derby County is that he would be able to knock 10 bells of poo out of Rick Parry. 

Mel Morris doesn't strike me has having that in his locker. 

[Jimbo Ram]

One way or another is there a time frame to get an outcome on this? If this drags on we are going to be hit again with pre season plans, just like when Frank took an eternity to leave....

[JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta]

Just now, Jimbo Ram said:

One way or another is there a time frame to get an outcome on this? If this drags on we are going to be hit again with pre season plans, just like when Frank took an eternity to leave....

It's the EFL. They have probably all clocked off by now after a big lunch. 

[Yani P]

14 minutes ago, inter politics said:

'Under EFL regulations, it is understood there is no possible recourse for Derby to challenge the decision.'

That is so EFL..they can appeal ..clubs can't lol

[MrPlinkett]

17 minutes ago, Spanish said:

I've posted the rules

I guess just because its the rules doesn't stop us asking how it can be right.

 

 

[Kernow]

Absolutely pathetic. More ineptitude from the EFL. If we were to be relegated out of this league into a non-EFL one, then it wouldn’t be the end of the world. Unfortunately we’ll just end up being amongst a group of clubs the organisation care even less about.

They can appeal a decision until they get the result they want, but once that happens it’s final?

We may as well just give up with real life football and move to video games. At least we can keep reloading that so results favour us for a change.

[YouRams]

24 minutes ago, inter politics said:

'Under EFL regulations, it is understood there is no possible recourse for Derby to challenge the decision.'

1-1 extra time then penalty’s int’it? 

[EdinRam]

8 minutes ago, Yani P said:

That is so EFL..they can appeal ..clubs can't lol

I believe there is one appeal for the losing party, it isn't a case of they could appeal but we can't. Just like Wednesday appealed their 12 point deduction and ended up with 6.

[Woodley Ram]

On 09/05/2021 at 15:21, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

Immediately start burrowing through the next set of accounts. We'll probably get a point deduction at some time but realistically that means we might need to win 20 games from 46. On any given season that's more than our average.

My annoyance with this and always has been that a team with 10,000 through the gate on a good day like Bournemouth can have 60 million quid of players on the pitch and a wage bill that will probably run at 2-3 million per player but that's ok. 

Spend what you want as long as you are willing to service it.

I Think James Thrasivoulou needs to change his poem to 'We are Derby, hated by the EFL, the scourge of Middle England, the bastions of football, We are Derby County'................sorry and Nottingham Forest you can duck off

[Yani P]

So we still have an appeal then if we lose this verdict? Although as it'd likely a fine bot sure if it will make financial sense to do so..

[Sparkle]

25 minutes ago, DJFern94 said:

So it is set up that they can appeal till they get the result they like and we are unable to contest it? ?

A bit like the SNP viewpoint - it’s all the rage

[EdinRam]

1 minute ago, Yani P said:

So we still have an appeal then if we lose this verdict? Although as it'd likely a fine bot sure if it will make financial sense to do so..

No we don't, the decision stands whatever the outcome.

[WhiteHorseRam]

16 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

It's the EFL. They have probably all clocked off by now after a big lunch. 

"there's a note under here from Ron Greenwood .... "

[Mihangel]

3 minutes ago, EdinRam said:

No we don't, the decision stands whatever the outcome.

I would assume that while the decision is final, any punishment could be appealed.

[Ellafella]

1 minute ago, WhiteHorseRam said:

"there's a note under here from Ron Greenwood .... "

wasn’t that the FA? 

[WhiteHorseRam]

Just now, Ellafella said:

wasn’t that the FA? 

Congratulations, you are as old as me and have a similar DVD collection ?

[Brammie Steve]

Seems vomitingly like the brand of democracy being peddled around today.

A small oligarchy decide what the outcome will be.

Have a referendum or 'free and fair' election.

When they lose, even by a landslide, spend millions seeking a further appeal/vote.

Finally 'achieve' a majority, declare a 'victory for common sense' and refuse further debate because 'the people have spoken!"

In other words relegate the Rams regardless, but blame the EFL, not Wycombe!

[Rambalin]

7 minutes ago, EdinRam said:

I believe there is one appeal for the losing party, it isn't a case of they could appeal but we can't. Just like Wednesday appealed their 12 point deduction and ended up with 6.

Derby can and would appeal I heard on five live the other day and are confidant that even if they had to resubmit their accounts they would fall within the FFP limits.