Mucker1884 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 hours ago, ap04 said: ... PS No affiliation to said club or individual... ossieram, Comrade 86, Reggie Greenwood and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 37 minutes ago, ap04 said: As far as I know and correct me if I am wrong this guy has been cleared of everything and there is nothing pending or "alleged". Being cleared of wrong doing in a court in Greece is dependant on how your finances are, The richer you are the more chance of greasing someones palm...being cleared is not a case of innocence. Maybe you haven't heard of the Greece financial scandal a good few years ago, Where Government taxes weren't collected as a good few businesses used 2 accounting books, 1 for the real income and 1 for the tax man. Your either naive of the Greek Court system or or too fixated on xG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 I think this is a win win for us. Either they drop this season and all hell breaks loose or they are decimated this season and end up going down next season and be crippled in the championship. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Not proven beyond a reasonable doubt isn't necessarily didn't do it. Indeed, in Scots law there is a verdict of "not proven" (although that itself comes with it's own set of problems). Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 hours ago, ap04 said: Nice to see you care more about others' claims and suspicions than what courts of law decide. And then use "alleged" to chicken out of passing it as your own opinion due to fear of libel and lack of proof. I presume if someone takes you to court and you are cleared you'll remain an (alleged) rapist/wife-beater/pedo for life (and they can happily slander you hiding behind a screen) PS No affiliation to said club or individual just find it really cheap. There are plenty of people who committed those crimes currently walking free due to fundamental failures in the judicial process. This often means justice is in no way delivered, in fact the current legal process often prevents justice from prevailing for the crimes you explicitly mention. If you honestly base moral judgement on legal verdict, then you're wildly naïve. Simple as that. Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 hours ago, ap04 said: Nice to see you care more about others' claims and suspicions than what courts of law decide. And then use "alleged" to chicken out of passing it as your own opinion due to fear of libel and lack of proof. I presume if someone takes you to court and you are cleared you'll remain an (alleged) rapist/wife-beater/pedo for life (and they can happily slander you hiding behind a screen) PS No affiliation to said club or individual just find it really cheap. There's nothing 'alleged' about you being Florist scum though from the standard and inflammatory nature of your usual posts though is there, despite your banal protestations, treetard. Geriatram, Reggie Greenwood, The Scarlet Pimpernel and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, ap04 said: This relates to the Siemens scandal, from the little I know the main reason these were aquitted is not them being found innocent but the case dragging on (20 years elapsing for the main charges, there was also other stuff such as admission of bribery from the Germans' part and an out-of-court settlement for the bribes) As far as I know and correct me if I am wrong this guy has been cleared of everything and there is nothing pending or "alleged". Also you are suggesting the court system may be rigged but ignoring there may be foul political/financial/sporting/media interests on the other side wanting him smeared or gone. The ten (10, TEN) witnesses who died was lucky though, wasn't it? No smoke without (bakery) fire, or so they say. AbuDerbyDave, Reggie Greenwood and KBB 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) What amazes me is that the articles like the Vampire Ship and others are still on the internet and haven’t been challenged or asked to be taken down by Marinikas even though they have been up there for years ? I wonder why ? Edited April 25 by Reggie Greenwood Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 12 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: What amazes me is that the articles like the Vampire Ship and others are still on the internet and haven’t been challenged or asked to be taken down by Marinikas even though they have been up there for years ? I wonder why ? Don’t worry, Clattenburg is on it, he’s just prioritising 😉 Chester40, ossieram and Reggie Greenwood 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltRam Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 hours ago, ap04 said: This relates to the Siemens scandal, from the little I know the main reason these were aquitted is not them being found innocent but the case dragging on (20 years elapsing for the main charges, there was also other stuff such as admission of bribery from the Germans' part and an out-of-court settlement for the bribes) As far as I know and correct me if I am wrong this guy has been cleared of everything and there is nothing pending or "alleged". Also you are suggesting the court system may be rigged but ignoring there may be foul political/financial/sporting/media interests on the other side wanting him smeared or gone. What was the xC (expected conviction) on Marinakis though? Maybe he's been lucky so far, and if he keeps getting himself into the wrong positions, eventually his luck will change. Comrade 86, oodledoodle, Zag zig and 13 others 4 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oodledoodle Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 5 hours ago, ap04 said: Nice to see you care more about others' claims and suspicions than what courts of law decide. And then use "alleged" to chicken out of passing it as your own opinion due to fear of libel and lack of proof. I presume if someone takes you to court and you are cleared you'll remain an (alleged) rapist/wife-beater/pedo for life (and they can happily slander you hiding behind a screen) PS No affiliation to said club or individual just find it really cheap. Forest are an "alleged" premier league side. Don't worry, they'll be proven innocent of that in a few weeks. Premier ram and I Am Sheep 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oodledoodle Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 46 minutes ago, MaltRam said: What was the xC (expected conviction) on Marinakis though? Maybe he's been lucky so far, and if he keeps getting himself into the wrong positions, eventually his luck will change. Lucky the judge wasn't a Luton fan. RadioactiveWaste, Comrade 86, MaltRam and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 THE MODERATORS HAVE ISSUED A STATEMENT. Going forward, ap04 is something we simply cannot accept Scott129, MaltRam, RadioactiveWaste and 25 others 7 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 4 hours ago, ap04 said: This relates to the Siemens scandal, from the little I know the main reason these were aquitted is not them being found innocent but the case dragging on (20 years elapsing for the main charges, there was also other stuff such as admission of bribery from the Germans' part and an out-of-court settlement for the bribes) As far as I know and correct me if I am wrong this guy has been cleared of everything and there is nothing pending or "alleged". Also you are suggesting the court system may be rigged but ignoring there may be foul political/financial/sporting/media interests on the other side wanting him smeared or gone. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Surprised no appeal news yet. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if someone (or all of them) on the appeals committee support Luton. I really am hoping they get two points taken off them for a time wasting, frivolous appeal. MarsdenRam, Crewton, MaltRam and 2 others 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 hours ago, i-Ram said: Surprised no appeal news yet. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if someone (or all of them) on the appeals committee support Luton. I really am hoping they get two points taken off them for a time wasting, frivolous appeal. I'm sure the twitter admin is cable tied to a chair in a disused Wearhouse somewhere in Nottingham with several broken fingers after changing the password. "I can't Mr Creosote, I love forest too much to let you....." Bessie1, oodledoodle and i-Ram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oodledoodle Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 We're all wearing massive hats when we play them next season, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, oodledoodle said: We're all wearing massive hats when we play them next season, right? Perhaps @Mucker1884 could organise something 😎 Mucker1884 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: Perhaps @Mucker1884 could organise something 😎 Not a chance mate. After the roaring success of my last effort, I'm going out on a high! 😁 AbuDerbyDave, Comrade 86, oodledoodle and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 (edited) . Edited April 27 by Archie SaffyRam, rynny, REDCAR and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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