JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Cheats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I just heard a she-Gump interviewed on the RD news claiming they had no choice but to "spend all that money" because they only had loan players when they got promoted, forgetting the 30 permanent professionals they had on their books at the time 😅 RadioactiveWaste, angieram, David Graham Brown and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Got off lightly I see - unfortunately Luton throwing the game away at Bournemouth could doom them Ram-Alf and Crewton 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 It may be difficult, but, I think we all need to remember the inner crappness that is notts forest is strong, the faith and the belief in their ability to fail was on display at the weekend as they allowed Luton an equaliser. TigerTedd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 "the Premier League has no "fixed formula" for points deductions based on the size of a breach" I wonder what size the brown envelope was. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Phoenix said: "the Premier League has no "fixed formula" for points deductions based on the size of a breach" I wonder what size the brown envelope was. Anything involving the Fat Greek is presumably XXXL, though maybe the odd salad dressing. Edited March 18 by Zag zig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Going to be intersting to see where different people fall on this, who defends Forest, who stays quiet etc. Either way I think this is poor from Percy Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG2Ram Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 points is a politically expedient punishment for the EPL to hand out. If it had been 6 points or more then Forest would have undoubtedly fought it and the whole saga would have dragged on towards the end of the season which is not in the EPL's best interests. 4 points gives the teams around/below Forest a chance (albeit a slight one given their current form and remaining fixtures) of finishing above Forest. Should one or more of those teams go on a great run and finish above Forest buy a comfortable margin, then should Forest subsequently complain the EPL can say that they should have appealed the original 4 point deduction at the time. Should one or more of those teams finish above Forest by only one/two points or on goal difference then the EPL have the option of reducing the original 4 point deduction to 2 points thus avoiding further appeals/legal action from Forest and also closing the door on any club relegated instead. David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Percy has been a mouthpiece for their board for a while. Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 11 minutes ago, TuffLuff said: Going to be intersting to see where different people fall on this, who defends Forest, who stays quiet etc. Either way I think this is poor from Percy He's another Forest delusional cockwomble who spends his weekends cleaning Marianakis love spuds with a loofah and taking instruction for the next headline Reggie Greenwood, Carl Sagan, Comrade 86 and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 45 minutes ago, Phoenix said: "the Premier League has no "fixed formula" for points deductions based on the size of a breach" I wonder what size the brown envelope was. About the size of a matchstick? archram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleover ram Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Their argument is the club statement was they couldn’t compete as a newly promoted club without parachute payments the previous season. tough. Take money for a season and get relegated and build back up. That was Norwich’s model for years. They don’t have a right to stay in the PL more than one season David Graham Brown, May Contain Nuts, SSD and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chellaston Ram Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 48 minutes ago, littleover ram said: Their argument is the club statement was they couldn’t compete as a newly promoted club without parachute payments the previous season. tough. Take money for a season and get relegated and build back up. That was Norwich’s model for years. They don’t have a right to stay in the PL more than one season Brentford and Luton did it without parachute payments Premier ram, RadioactiveWaste, Crewton and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 hours ago, TuffLuff said: Going to be intersting to see where different people fall on this, who defends Forest, who stays quiet etc. Either way I think this is poor from Percy https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/18/supporters-should-blame-club-owners-not-the-rules-for-points-deductions RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkley Ram Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 7 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/18/supporters-should-blame-club-owners-not-the-rules-for-points-deductions Unless you're us. We can blame our club owners, Boro, Wycombe and the EFL who changed the rules to avoid upsetting Steve Gibson. But it's fine, I'm over it... David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Best case now is that the 6 points deduction which has been reduced to 4 because of the cooperation of Notts, is appealed by their owner. The appeal fails, taking with it the mitigation of cooperation increasing the punishment up to the full 6 for a frivolous appeal. They go down by 1 point as a result of their own appeal. That'd do it and send a message to other teams. Yeah they should do that. RadioactiveWaste and TigerTedd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 2 hours ago, TuffLuff said: Going to be intersting to see where different people fall on this, who defends Forest, who stays quiet etc. Either way I think this is poor from Percy The logic of the offical statement from Forest seems to suggest that they are being punished for over spending, that somehow not letting them do so allows those with deeper pockets to outspend them. This is a flawed argument on many grounds. 1: Them was the rules all along, if you don't like them then don't play. 2: Those rules were brought in for the absolute benefit of the smaller clubs, to prevent them having to overspend and go into massive debts just to keep up. Indeed, they were put there to ensure that the biggest teams didn't have endless means on their spending, a la early Abramovich. 3: The size of the breach is of such a magnitude as to suggest either complete stupidity or flagrant intent to ignore. For those comparing the case of Forest and Derby it is clear to see one is a case of bad accounting (ours, as a club we were collectively a bit too cute and we served our punishment, but it was in the end one owner trying to play fast and loose with a definition of debt) and the other a blatant attempt to just subvert the rules as put in place. Forest can cry all they want that they are being chopped off at the knees but the truth is there to see, they broke the rules of the competition they chose to enter into. The problem we have now is that we enter into a phase of the journey where the lawyers of the convicted become potentially bigger than the lawyers of those prosecuting. Not for Forest but when the day of reckoning comes for City it will be very interesting indeed to see how that plays out. But, and I say this as someone who is far from a Forest hater (I don't live near there and have no friends or otherwise who support them), it is a sad day when you see the blight that has hit the lower leagues arrive in the top flight. Teams are now not relegated based on their footballing ability and our very close shave with extinction will likely be surpassed by someone like Forest, who just get themselves in that little bit too deep. It is going to happen. Edited March 18 by BaaLocks alanmarklewis and Red_Dawn 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleover ram Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 43 minutes ago, Chellaston Ram said: Brentford and Luton did it without parachute payments Luton haven’t stayed up yet! 🤞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Forest's claims about being unfairly disadvantaged as a promoted Championship club would certainly hold more weight if they didn't also come out against distributing more pay to EFL clubs less than a week ago: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13188487/Premier-League-clubs-shot-EFL-deal.html Walkley Ram, RadioactiveWaste, The_Sheriff and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Who can forget the highly catchy song dreamt up by their fans “derby’s going down with a fiver in the bank” and the way we were showered with photocopied £10 pound notes at their Nottingham slum, Karma is a bitch and I am loving every second of their misfortune, come on Luton!!!!! Ewe Ram, David Graham Brown, Reggie Greenwood and 4 others 1 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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