uttoxram75 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, RandomAccessMemory said: This situation is just completely maddening, it’s the first thing I think about, it’s the last thing I think about, and it’s there the whole time in between for good measure. I’m sure I’m only one of many people feeling this way. I saw this tweet and thought it was interesting and a good idea. I’ve looked myself on street view, there’s actually 2 billboards (if they’re still there) and they both face EFL House one says ‘ClearChannel’ one says ‘primesight’. I think tomorrow one thing we could do is look to find out how much it would cost to advertise on them both and crowdfund it? Make it crystal clear we’re not going away quietly and they can’t ignore us as it’s right in front of them. Its a great idea. This lad is already in touch with the Blackpool lot who did a similar thing and has contacted the advertising company that leases the billboard for how much it might cost. I've asked him to join up on here and you can see what he's doing on Twitter @Simon Whetton. I used to work with him and he's a sound lad. RandomAccessMemory and Crewton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, Bald Eagle's Barmy Army said: What a load of grollocks - it’s making me fall out of love with everything, even the wife. Same here...... ..... Never got on with your missus... ? ScamRam and Bald Eagle's Barmy Army 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, IslandExile said: I am appalled by it. I've posted that I cannot see how an unresolved claim can be considered as a debt. I have started a thread suggesting those with access to the Administrators press them to take legal action. However, several knowledgeable folks believe that will now happen without us having to campaign for them to do so. I hope they're right. I fear for our club. You are so right how can an unresolved claim be deemed as a debt . 7 Million being bandied about as if was nothing . Crazy Crewton, r_wilcockson and IslandExile 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, FlyBritishMidland said: Nor does it say that their original claim was against the valuation of PP that the LAP rejected in October 2020. And as @duncanjwitham has said, when they launched their 2nd claim we actually hadn’t been found guilty of anything and it hadn’t been proven we had breached P&S. This is very important Crewton and FlyBritishMidland 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motley Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 53 minutes ago, R@M said: Just reading the Blackpool piece and found this…. https://www.theifo.co.uk/contact-us.html The Independent Football Ombudsman WTF? There is a complaint form. We should send in thousands…why have I not heard them mentioned or involved? I’ve emailed….. investigation into the EFL and it’s dealings with regard to DCFC : 1. Efl approve the stadium sale then subsequently charge DCFC 2. Efl approve amortisation method, sign off two years accounts then subsequently charge DCFC in response to MFC threats to sue EFL. 3. MFC drop their threat to sue the EFL 4. EFL lose case against DCFC. Nb accountant on the panel 5. EFL appeal and appoint a new panel with no accountant. 6. EFL win case 7. DCFC have no right of appeal 8. DCFC go into administration. 9. Middlesbrough and Wycombe announce intention to claim against DCFC. 20. Such “claims” prevent DCFC exiting admin. 21. After 4 months of delaying the EFL finally decide the “claims” have to be settled by DCFC. Interesting this eventual decision, comes days after the transfer window has closed and maximum disruption to DCFC. 22. How can an unsubstantiated “claim” by other clubs be deemed as a bona fide creditor, and a football creditor that takes precedence over other creditors even HMRC. 23. EFL rules preclude claims between member clubs. 24. As for the claims, if you look into the detail, you will see they are pure fantasy and clearly just a chance to make money, or more sinister and an attempt to actually put DCFC into liquidation. And apparently aided and abetted by the EFL Thank you for your time. Regards Curtains, DCFC1388, Ramewe and 18 others 2 1 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 We talk about Boro a lot - rightly so. But Wycombe..... If they have a claim at all (which they don't), then surely it's against the EFL and not us. The EFL choose when to apply, or not apply, the points deduction. Ramarena, FlyBritishMidland, Curtains and 6 others 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase116 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 I'm on holiday In Jamaica at the moment and the wife wants to know if I can sue the efl and Gibson for ruining our our holiday ? 70 million will do, I'll just keep 1 million and give dcfc the rest!! Day, Ewetube and Ted McMinn Football Genius 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Imagine risking at least some money to HMRC and other actual creditors to side with two ducking vulture clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Curry Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Odd as this may seem, I have restrained myself from commenting throughout all of this uncertainty. However, I'm breaking my silence now. I know no more or no less than anyone else - but of this I'm certain. After that statement from the EFL there are two possible endings to this. 1) The demise of the EFL. or 2) The demise of DCFC as we know it. The High Court will decide. Bill R@M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 As others have said it's an absolutely shocking statement by the EFL. Tbh I'm at the point where I'm thinking mass protests at the EFL headquarters and pitch invasions in games as a response as there is clearly no integrity left in the league. R@M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Bill Curry said: Odd as this may seem, I have restrained myself from commenting throughout all of this uncertainty. However, I'm breaking my silence now. I know no more or no less than anyone else - but of this I'm certain. After that statement from the EFL there are two possible endings to this. 1) The demise of the EFL. or 2) The demise of DCFC as we know it. The High Court will decide. Bill 3) The demise of both. No way does the EFL come out of this smelling of roses - whether Derby survive or not. I think what looked to be one of our biggest issues, could be one of our biggest saviours. Hear me out. As it stands, the EFL's position could stop HMRC getting a penny, in spite of their new increased status in football insolvency. That motivates them to get involved, to get some taxpayer pounds back. If the EFL, by not allowing Derby to effectively ignore the claims (not debts, yet), don't let HMRC to collect even 25p in the £ + any future revenue if the club becomes solvent again... I can't see HMRC and government take that lying down. That was the whole point of moving them up the food chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eatonram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 It is a complete catch 22 for the admins. To carry out their legal duty they must act in the best interest of creditors incl HMRC. To do this they would need to rule out “claims” otherwise “creditors” get less. However if they do not deal with the claims and we know that would mean giving them money then the EFL are likely to punish the Club harshly and there is massive pressure on the admins for this not to happen. It seems they are going to try via the legal route to ensure the claims get zero or a negligible amount. My fear is the Club will be sacrificed as a punishment. What happened to the call for pragmatism. CBRammette, Foxy Ram and Zag zig 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRammy Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) Personally dont get this at all where we not going to an arbitation panel this week to solve this and if not getting the right result going to a high court .Surely this new statement is no surprise as the efl have totake this stance so they dont get sued by gibson . Gibson is effectively running the efl right now through threat of sueing them and not us . Its down to the admins to get court action and FAST . I thought we would have the results of arbitation by tomorrow , the pace this is moving and lack of info from the course the admins are taking is shocking . Also on the march a cracking turn out but twhat has it really achieved ? . What it needs is the same amount of people outside the efl headquarters with banners like " who is in charge of the efl parry or gibson . Only then will we poss get anywhere . It doesnt matter if no ones actually at the EFL its the news it creates and parry wont like his position being exposed and gibson wont like the implications . As sure as anything there is going to be massive trouble at middlesbrough and its going to reflect badly on us . Edited February 3, 2022 by NottsRammy Ramifications 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Anyone know what this is about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 I would suspect it's someone trying to be clever, in case the worst happens. Norman, Andicis and Rev 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Anyone know what this is about? Just seems to be some random bloke has set up a company in that name, it's registered to a home address down south. Doesn't mean anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfs1ram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Anyone know what this is about? It means that a Peter James Wallis has registered a new Company at Companies House - Derby County Football Club 2022 Limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfs1ram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Mr Wallis's address is 26 Fynamore Gardens, Calne, England, SN11 0UB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Yes, it costs next to nothing to start a company up and it looks to be what's happened here. A quick search for the bloke who set it up shows him to be an employee for a small banking firm based out of Swindon. Complete with contact information including direct mobile and email. Andicis and RadioactiveWaste 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 I hear his pseudonym is one Mr P I Staker. Rev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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